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Post by maliciousdamage on Aug 23, 2018 16:46:56 GMT
On paper we should beat Hull but I noticed they won on Tues away at Rotherham. I’d love to know what the board are thinking right now. I’d make the Huddersfield match free for season ticket holders and a £10/£5 kids for non holders they need to try to keep fans on board. If we draw or lose to Hull and lose to Huddersfield I think we are in serious trouble and they will have to take a serious look at the situation regarding Rowett Nah Huddersfield will be £15 Adults and £5 children 14,000 max You're right they'll just say what's all the fuss about
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Post by ChesterStokie on Aug 23, 2018 16:51:45 GMT
Paul. As normal we stayed until the final whistle to witness an almost empty stadium, there was no clapping (nor should there be) from “anyone” which is extremely rare. You, as would the owners have witnessed a significant reduction in attendance, silence for long spells during the games, booing and ironic clapping for a substitution and of cause a shambolic performance. I honestly believe the owners thought a little bit of tinkering and public statements would suffice. If last night wasn’t a massive wake up call I’m not sure what would be Here’s hoping Maybe my point was too subtle. They've had the wake-up call already, relegation and all the financial implications that accompany it, WAS the wake-up call. They can't be any more wake-up called than they already have been and THIS (what we're seeing now) is the best they could come up with as a response. It doesn't matter how many "wake-up calls" happen, if the person in bed next to the alarm clock doesn't ever know what to do. Well I think their response to the first wake up call was quite clear, i.e. get a new manager in and spend some decent money. Not unreasonable, and indeed they HAVE got a new manger in and spent some decent money. I think that last night was a new and different wake up call and I suspect they haven't got a clue what to do about it this time around.
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Post by localloser on Aug 23, 2018 16:52:10 GMT
Jeez mate, that's a long old haul. Haven't missed a game for ages but won't be there on Tuesday because I have to go to a relative's funeral at 10.30 the following day and need to be in the right frame of mind (as well as physically back home!) people say "Keep the faith", but, as you say, it's not easy after nights like last night. We have to win sometime. Today it seems that the Adobe goal should’ve stood and the handball should’ve been a penalty, so things may have been different. We just need to stop defending like a bunch of twats and you never know what might happen. You're right - we do have to win sometime - just as Saido has to score sometime. I'll be there again on Satdee, as hopeful as ever - but the old cliche is true - it's the hope that kills you.
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Post by Billybigbollox on Aug 23, 2018 16:55:37 GMT
We have to win sometime. Today it seems that the Adobe goal should’ve stood and the handball should’ve been a penalty, so things may have been different. We just need to stop defending like a bunch of twats and you never know what might happen. You're right - we do have to win sometime - just as Saido has to score sometime. I'll be there again on Satdee, as hopeful as ever - but the old cliche is true - it's the hope that kills you. True. We persevere even after the trauma of last night. It’s funny how we have gone from promotion to relegation certs with the bookies in a few weeks.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 23, 2018 16:59:58 GMT
Maybe my point was too subtle. They've had the wake-up call already, relegation and all the financial implications that accompany it, WAS the wake-up call. They can't be any more wake-up called than they already have been and THIS (what we're seeing now) is the best they could come up with as a response. It doesn't matter how many "wake-up calls" happen, if the person in bed next to the alarm clock doesn't ever know what to do. Well I think their response to the first wake up call was quite clear, i.e. get a new manager in and spend some decent money. Not unreasonable, and indeed they HAVE got a new manger in and spent some decent money. I think that last night was a new and different wake up call and I suspect they haven't got a clue what to do about it this time around. That's the POINT, they don't know what to do about it now and they didn't know what to do about it the previous time either. If they had have done, then we wouldn't be talking about it now, would we? It clearly involved more than JUST changing a manager and spending some (any) money. The first wake cup call was probably when Hughes led the team round an empty stadium after the Arsenal game but they slept through that one too. To quote the crowd last night ... "You (the board) don't know what you're doing!"
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Post by ParaPsych on Aug 23, 2018 17:16:25 GMT
They obviously just have a snooze button on their wake up call.
Mine lets me hit snooze 3 times.
So by my reconning snooze 1 was last summer, when Hughes should have been sacked. Snooze 2 was around November. They had a brief period of drifting in and out of consciousness around January but soon drifted off again before snooze 3 at the end of the season.
With all snoozes gone the alarm is now blaring and they'll be wide awake and grumpily rubbing their eyes.
We'll be fine...
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Post by neddy on Aug 23, 2018 17:24:22 GMT
The fan base just want honest answers to what the hell is going on. That’s all pure and simple and some sort of contact to the fans from management and Board needs to be made before Saturday.....anything else just fuels the rumour mill as to deep seated problems!!!!
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Post by nott1 on Aug 23, 2018 17:26:54 GMT
And some think TP and MH are bad managers!
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Post by RAF on Aug 23, 2018 17:31:19 GMT
It's a fucking absolute shit show. Bolton have spent £200,000 and are unbeaten. I know it's early doors but fuck me our overpaid wankers are a bastard embarrassment and the manager is the new Alan pissing Ball.
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Post by palerider on Aug 23, 2018 17:34:34 GMT
Two and a half years on and patience is wafer thin,another defeat Saturday and the situation could become very uncomfortable
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Post by felonious on Aug 23, 2018 17:42:16 GMT
Total capitulation, players falling out, manager questioning senior player attitudes and serious supporter unrest and it’s all come to a head Is it just what was needed ? Think a couple of wins is just what we need mate At this rate two wins will take about two years
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 23, 2018 17:44:13 GMT
I'll be there on Saturday and I haven't watched us win a football match for over a year now so we'll be fine
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Post by right on Aug 23, 2018 17:45:30 GMT
Give me the 11 youngest players we can field and throw them out there. Dont care who. That's exactly not the thing to do. By all means drop most of the 11 that played, but young players need experienced hands to turn to. Whys that? Who are the experienced that they will turn to? I want Tymon. I want Sorrenson, I want Ngoy, I want Campbell. I dont care. If we want some experience, give me Crouch.
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Post by kustokie on Aug 23, 2018 17:53:40 GMT
You would hope the owners sat in their seats and finally thought WTF is going on, how the hell have we arrived at this position and how do we restore pride and ambition There is no doubt that the management of the Club (off the pitch) has, and continues to be a significant factor in our downfall and continued demise. There has to be a root and branch review of the so called recruitment process. Quantity of quality in the name of sustainability has been and remains a failure While the recruitment process is the root cause of the mess we are in, solving that problem is not going to a damn thing towards saving us from relegation. Someone needs to show some leadership and start kicking players up the arse/ass.
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Post by Veritas on Aug 23, 2018 18:13:36 GMT
How can it be very different? What starting XI is going to take Saturday's game by the scruff of the neck and stamp their authority on it rom the start? I am not saying we don't need significant changes but can't for the life of me see how that will be made to happen three after that performance when the management and players have failed miserably to get any response to the previous three dreadful performances, ok two dreadful one mediocre. Simply listing all the players that were not involved in last night's debacle is not an answer. Give me the 11 youngest players we can field and throw them out there. Dont care who. And get ready for a humiliation rather than an embaressment
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Post by lloydcolesguitar on Aug 23, 2018 18:14:29 GMT
We have been saying that since January though TC be alright if it was january 2018 tho
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Post by emery1985 on Aug 23, 2018 18:19:42 GMT
The camels been butchered & is now on the BBQ Incidentally, did you know that camel is neither halal or kosher ☪️✡️ At last something Israel and Palestine agree with!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 21:26:11 GMT
That's exactly not the thing to do. By all means drop most of the 11 that played, but young players need experienced hands to turn to. Whys that? Who are the experienced that they will turn to? I want Tymon. I want Sorrenson, I want Ngoy, I want Campbell. I dont care. If we want some experience, give me Crouch. Because youth players are by their vary nature inexperienced and error prone. They may become stars one day, Tymon may win 120 caps for England (no, not even I believe that) but not yet. 11 academy players against 11 tough championship players could result in a 0-17 defeat, and while the club might eventually recover from that, the players will have a hard time doing that, especially when you remember how hypercritical some Stoke supporters are of academy players.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 21:41:12 GMT
It was a home defeat that harked back to the 'bad old days', that's for sure.
You take 0-3 vs Everton, 0-4 vs Spurs, from seasons gone by, because it's the Premier League, and you're at the top level, and it can happen.
0-3 vs Wigan, in the Championship, is nothing short of an epic clusterfuck.
I hope it's the catalyst for some kind of change, ffs, fair play to those who either cheered or booed last night, because on 35 minutes I was dumbfounded.
During our recent history we've seen seminal moments, good and bad, let's see if this the start of us getting our identity back. The fans may well have a part to play in that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 12:59:44 GMT
That's exactly not the thing to do. By all means drop most of the 11 that played, but young players need experienced hands to turn to. Whys that? Who are the experienced that they will turn to? I want Tymon. I want Sorrenson, I want Ngoy, I want Campbell. I dont care. If we want some experience, give me Crouch. Just to give you an idea of what you're asking for we would then be lining up in our next game with Haugaard in goal...
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 24, 2018 13:36:51 GMT
its clear that there is a lot that needs sorted out , hopefully they realise that but as long as they talk about having a good squad and challenging for promotion , they remain in denial , its a piss poor squad full of mercenaries who need moving on , sadly some have only just arrived who fall into tha category .
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Post by right on Aug 24, 2018 13:41:38 GMT
Whys that? Who are the experienced that they will turn to? I want Tymon. I want Sorrenson, I want Ngoy, I want Campbell. I dont care. If we want some experience, give me Crouch. Just to give you an idea of what you're asking for we would then be lining up in our next game with Haugaard in goal... Butland is younger than Huagaard. I dont think Butland is our problem but would be okay if he was on the sideline for a game.
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Post by werrington on Aug 31, 2018 5:18:35 GMT
seems like it went some way towards out upturn in performances
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2018 6:46:10 GMT
seems like it went some way towards out upturn in performances Make him the fucking captain already.
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Post by skemstokie on Aug 31, 2018 11:35:44 GMT
seems like it went some way towards out upturn in performances Make him the fucking captain already. Ryan club captain,Jack team captain.
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