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Post by marshy on Aug 25, 2018 9:16:45 GMT
I really disagree as he still wins almost every header and makes most blocks, but with a midfield not working at all in front of you, a left side who have been unpredictable and really terrible (Pieters and McClean), and a youngster directly involved in both the first goals we conceded against Preston and Wigan. How on earth can you expect Ryan to compensate for all of this? Rowett needs to spend more time on organising this defense, and we can't keep playing with Fletcher and McClean that's for sure. He won zero headers on Wednesday night, zero. He made Nick Powell look like Drogba. He won 9 headers on Wednesday, 4 more than the next highest player.
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Post by onepara on Aug 25, 2018 9:22:21 GMT
I really disagree as he still wins almost every header and makes most blocks, but with a midfield not working at all in front of you, a left side who have been unpredictable and really terrible (Pieters and McClean), and a youngster directly involved in both the first goals we conceded against Preston and Wigan. How on earth can you expect Ryan to compensate for all of this? Rowett needs to spend more time on organising this defense, and we can't keep playing with Fletcher and McClean that's for sure. He won zero headers on Wednesday night, zero. He made Nick Powell look like Drogba. You need to look at a re-run of the match, obviously.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 25, 2018 9:22:27 GMT
I really disagree as he still wins almost every header and makes most blocks, but with a midfield not working at all in front of you, a left side who have been unpredictable and really terrible (Pieters and McClean), and a youngster directly involved in both the first goals we conceded against Preston and Wigan. How on earth can you expect Ryan to compensate for all of this? Rowett needs to spend more time on organising this defense, and we can't keep playing with Fletcher and McClean that's for sure. He won zero headers on Wednesday night, zero. He made Nick Powell look like Drogba. Mate Ryan may no longer be the force he once was. He certainly didn't win every aerial challenge. But to say he won no headers is utter bollocks. In fact in the air is about the only place he still retains some of his old prowess (except in front of goal).
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Post by jeycov on Aug 25, 2018 9:22:39 GMT
Any update on Ryan Woods?
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 25, 2018 9:25:06 GMT
I really disagree as he still wins almost every header and makes most blocks, but with a midfield not working at all in front of you, a left side who have been unpredictable and really terrible (Pieters and McClean), and a youngster directly involved in both the first goals we conceded against Preston and Wigan. How on earth can you expect Ryan to compensate for all of this? Rowett needs to spend more time on organising this defense, and we can't keep playing with Fletcher and McClean that's for sure. He won zero headers on Wednesday night, zero. He made Nick Powell look like Drogba. Think you need to watch the game once more as that isn't correct.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 25, 2018 9:25:31 GMT
Any update on Ryan Woods? Start your own thread on Woods this thread is for the other Ryan.......isn't it? PS I think today they will be looking at his left leg. Tomorrow's arms day.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Aug 25, 2018 10:22:07 GMT
He won zero headers on Wednesday night, zero. He made Nick Powell look like Drogba. He won 9 headers on Wednesday, 4 more than the next highest player. You'll never win an argument on the oatcake by using facts, what are you thinking ???
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Post by skelman on Aug 25, 2018 10:25:49 GMT
Hope today's performance helps to get this over the line if a last push is needed and he's there to be announced at half-time. Hopefully already done and dusted as I can't believe we'd let him go from Clayton Woods yesterday 'to mull it over' with Leeds, Swansea and WBA still sniffing around.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Aug 25, 2018 10:35:30 GMT
Surely they're saving the announcement for the game and presenting him to the crowd to try and get fans back on side.
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Post by colinroberts1 on Aug 25, 2018 10:38:03 GMT
They could of Just signed him in time for match today to please the fans. Even fu k that up
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Aug 25, 2018 10:43:03 GMT
We conceded 3 goals, our defence was horrendous, especially our captain who hasn’t been at his best for a few years now. The forwards cannot be blamed for the loss against Wigan. The issue categorically is the middle of the pitch we are so bad there the defence is exposed snd the forwards get no service and the team has no shape This. The back four are constantly exposed, there is no creativity in the side, and therefore no chances created, we have no foreseeable identity. Even with Pulis you knew what you were getting, now its basically throw 15 names in the air and wait to see what drops where.
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Post by ursemboys on Aug 25, 2018 10:48:28 GMT
The issue categorically is the middle of the pitch we are so bad there the defence is exposed snd the forwards get no service and the team has no shape This. The back four are constantly exposed, there is no creativity in the side, and therefore no chances created, we have no foreseeable identity. Even with Pulis you knew what you were getting, now its basically throw 15 names in the air and wait to see what drops where. Pulis arhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ffs sake he has been gone for years ,i hate the name, will people just move on ,with Pulis this with Pulis that .
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 25, 2018 10:51:45 GMT
We conceded 3 goals, our defence was horrendous, especially our captain who hasn’t been at his best for a few years now. The forwards cannot be blamed for the loss against Wigan. The issue categorically is the middle of the pitch we are so bad there the defence is exposed snd the forwards get no service and the team has no shape This bang on. 100%. Now put Benji back on
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Aug 25, 2018 10:56:30 GMT
This. The back four are constantly exposed, there is no creativity in the side, and therefore no chances created, we have no foreseeable identity. Even with Pulis you knew what you were getting, now its basically throw 15 names in the air and wait to see what drops where. Pulis arhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ffs sake he has been gone for years ,i hate the name, will people just move on ,with Pulis this with Pulis that . I'm making a point that we have no identity yet and by the looks of GR he has no clue either. Hoping Woods signing will at least plug the gap between defence and midfield a bit. That still leaves the lack of creativity to sort
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Post by onefatcopper on Aug 25, 2018 11:05:18 GMT
The issue categorically is the middle of the pitch we are so bad there the defence is exposed snd the forwards get no service and the team has no shape This. The back four are constantly exposed, there is no creativity in the side, and therefore no chances created, we have no foreseeable identity. Even with Pulis you knew what you were getting, now its basically throw 15 names in the air and wait to see what drops where. I understood the points surrounding the team, but the bit about (throw 15 names in the air and wait to see what drops where) isn’t that more of a Scholes & Cartwright issue because they are in charge of scouting & recruitment ?
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Aug 25, 2018 11:10:05 GMT
This. The back four are constantly exposed, there is no creativity in the side, and therefore no chances created, we have no foreseeable identity. Even with Pulis you knew what you were getting, now its basically throw 15 names in the air and wait to see what drops where. I understood the points surrounding the team, but the bit about (throw 15 names in the air and wait to see what drops where) isn’t that more of a Scholes & Cartwright issue because they are in charge of scouting & recruitment ? The manager should still be able to get some form of identity into the team? But if his preferred formation of 433 is the way he goes then we are fooked.
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Post by ursemboys on Aug 25, 2018 11:26:12 GMT
Pulis arhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ffs sake he has been gone for years ,i hate the name, will people just move on ,with Pulis this with Pulis that . I'm making a point that we have no identity yet and by the looks of GR he has no clue either. Hoping Woods signing will at least plug the gap between defence and midfield a bit. That still leaves the lack of creativity to sort No Problem with your point but that f kers name is doing my head in and to put creativity alongside him is just wrong on so many levels .
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 25, 2018 12:11:35 GMT
It appears my statistics were slightly out. Nick Powell gave him the run around though physically and technically.
When a ballerina from Crewe’s academy gives you the run around like that it’s time to hang your boots up. A couple of years ago he was bullying Diego Costa. How the mighty have fallen.
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Post by onefatcopper on Aug 25, 2018 12:13:28 GMT
I understood the points surrounding the team, but the bit about (throw 15 names in the air and wait to see what drops where) isn’t that more of a Scholes & Cartwright issue because they are in charge of scouting & recruitment ? The manager should still be able to get some form of identity into the team? But if his preferred formation of 433 is the way he goes then we are fooked. I was making a little joke ! That’s how Stan&Ollie do there scouting “throwing 15 names in the air”
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 25, 2018 12:22:11 GMT
It appears my statistics were slightly out. Nick Powell gave him the run around though physically and technically. When a ballerina from Crewe’s academy gives you the run around like that it’s time to hang your boots up. A couple of years ago he was bullying Diego Costa. How the mighty have fallen. To be fair Nick Powell is a very good player would be in the prem but for injury . Ryan has slowed but you don't help him by bringing in someone older and slower who has a shit attitude do you? When we had Faye Ryan was the legs now he has the experience and needs the legs alongside him.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 25, 2018 12:23:39 GMT
This. The back four are constantly exposed, there is no creativity in the side, and therefore no chances created, we have no foreseeable identity. Even with Pulis you knew what you were getting, now its basically throw 15 names in the air and wait to see what drops where. Pulis arhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ffs sake he has been gone for years ,i hate the name, will people just move on ,with Pulis this with Pulis that . Pulis was the best thing to happen for Stoke in the club's modern era!
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Post by onefatcopper on Aug 25, 2018 12:30:11 GMT
Pulis arhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ffs sake he has been gone for years ,i hate the name, will people just move on ,with Pulis this with Pulis that . Pulis was the best thing to happen for Stoke in the club's modern era! At what year does the modern era commence ?
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 25, 2018 12:41:30 GMT
Pulis was the best thing to happen for Stoke in the club's modern era! At what year does the modern era commence ? Certainly after -75.
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Post by apb1979 on Aug 25, 2018 12:42:03 GMT
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Post by toppercorner on Aug 25, 2018 12:43:10 GMT
so does that picture confirm he's signed? did it happen in time and if so, does he go straight into the team?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 25, 2018 12:46:29 GMT
Spoke to him and yes he’s signed and he says he’s on the pitch before kick off
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 12:50:06 GMT
so does that picture confirm he's signed? did it happen in time and if so, does he go straight into the team? Not signed in time to be playing. Likely to be announced before the game to boost the crowd and could be shown on the pitch maybe
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Aug 25, 2018 13:10:11 GMT
Mark Sale confirmed he's signed on Radio Stoke. He said "we've been tracking him since Shrewsbury" - who knows who we is.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Aug 25, 2018 13:21:42 GMT
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Post by questionable on Aug 25, 2018 13:28:38 GMT
God are marketing department are so cringeworthy
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