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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 12, 2018 19:16:29 GMT
Cause I worry ,and yes we look bad ,but we will turn it around ,Hughes destroyed us ,Lambert improved us a little but was on a losing battle when we didn't back him with players needed, but that was yesterday ,we need look forward and getting on there backs will not help ,they look shit scared ,they know one mistake and the ground will go in melt down. Rowett will turn it round but we need play our part and turn the stadium into a fortress again fforts. They have to give us something to cheer because there’s nothing. We haven’t won at home since January. That’s just not acceptable and has nothing to do with the fans. They're as lucky as shit the fans haven't really turned on them aren't they? They fucking well deserve it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 12, 2018 19:18:36 GMT
fforts. They have to give us something to cheer because there’s nothing. We haven’t won at home since January. That’s just not acceptable and has nothing to do with the fans. They're as lucky as shit the fans haven't really turned on them aren't they? They fucking well deserve it. They really are. Its not like we went down fighting or showed anything. And then we get threads like this blaming fans. It’s fucking laughable.
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Post by ursemboys on Aug 12, 2018 19:24:04 GMT
They're as lucky as shit the fans haven't really turned on them aren't they? They fucking well deserve it. They really are. Its not like we went down fighting or showed anything. And then we get threads like this blaming fans. It’s fucking laughable. No body is blaming the fans ,we all know the team failed us last season ,but its a new season and its only game two ,It will take time ,new players bedding in ,old players believing in themselves again,bad players been left out , a new manager starting to see what he has and changing it ,for gods sake lets get behind them and make them believe we can do it,
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Post by ursemboys on Aug 12, 2018 19:26:58 GMT
fforts. They have to give us something to cheer because there’s nothing. We haven’t won at home since January. That’s just not acceptable and has nothing to do with the fans. They're as lucky as shit the fans haven't really turned on them aren't they? They fucking well deserve it. So do you believe booing and getting on there cases will make it better and make them play better, the only ones who get a lift from it is the opposing team, I bet there mangers first words will be get the crowd on there backs .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 19:29:17 GMT
Never boo your own team -callem to death on here yes but Never boo your own team
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 12, 2018 19:30:01 GMT
They really are. Its not like we went down fighting or showed anything. And then we get threads like this blaming fans. It’s fucking laughable. No body is blaming the fans ,we all know the team failed us last season ,but its a new season and its only game two ,It will take time ,new players bedding in ,old players believing in themselves again,bad players been left out , a new manager starting to see what he has and changing it ,for gods sake lets get behind them and make them believe we can do it, People won’t think that especially when there is absolutely no sign that we’re better than last season. We’ve got worse. Why wouldn’t people boo? We don’t believe they can do, they need to show us that they can. Because as I keep saying there’s at least 15 players in this squad that most of us wouldn’t give a shit about if they left tomorrow. That’s the state we’re in. It’s not something that cheering will change. We need a plan. We need some tactics that suit us. We need some players that can play football. We need some players that give a fuck. None of that is on show. And we haven’t seen it for years. Nothing but us looking like something like a football team sorts this mess out.
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Post by stokeson on Aug 12, 2018 19:40:59 GMT
2 games in. Afobe 2 in 2 . 4 new players bedding In . Butland finding some form. new manager saying the right things . Bojan back in a Stoke shirt. moan moan fucing moan.Glad I support Stoke.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 12, 2018 19:42:40 GMT
2 games in. Afobe 2 in 2 . 4 new players bedding In . Butland finding some form. new manager saying the right things . Bojan back in a Stoke shirt. moan moan fucing moan.Glad I support Stoke. Christ, saying the right things now overtakes looking like a bunch of strangers on the pitch and having no plan these days. Makes sense.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 12, 2018 19:43:01 GMT
fforts. They have to give us something to cheer because there’s nothing. We haven’t won at home since January. That’s just not acceptable and has nothing to do with the fans. They're as lucky as shit the fans haven't really turned on them aren't they? They fucking well deserve it. It’s coming if Wigan gets lay like they dI’d yesterday in 10 days time Hull could be a toxic afternoon .
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Post by ursemboys on Aug 12, 2018 19:43:50 GMT
No body is blaming the fans ,we all know the team failed us last season ,but its a new season and its only game two ,It will take time ,new players bedding in ,old players believing in themselves again,bad players been left out , a new manager starting to see what he has and changing it ,for gods sake lets get behind them and make them believe we can do it, People won’t think that especially when there is absolutely no sign that we’re better than last season. We’ve got worse. Why wouldn’t people boo? We don’t believe they can do, they need to show us that they can. Because as I keep saying there’s at least 15 players in this squad that most of us wouldn’t give a shit about if they left tomorrow. That’s the state we’re in. It’s not something that cheering will change. We need a plan. We need some tactics that suit us. We need some players that can play football. We need some players that give a fuck. None of that is on show. And we haven’t seen it for years. Nothing but us looking like something like a football team sorts this mess out. I think we have been caught out by the way other teams have come at us ,the fast pace ,yes there players that thought this will be easy ,Shawcross looks terrible at the min ,he thinks he has more time than he does, Allen looks lost. Rowett know how we need play it ,he just needs the players to get to grips ,I am sure after a few more games we will see a big improvement. But booing no matter how frustrated we get only helps the opposing team ,just remember some of the player will be thinking f you ,they are the players we need replace with players who care ,and I believe Rowett will do that he just needs time
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Post by ursemboys on Aug 12, 2018 19:46:23 GMT
2 games in. Afobe 2 in 2 . 4 new players bedding In . Butland finding some form. new manager saying the right things . Bojan back in a Stoke shirt. moan moan fucing moan.Glad I support Stoke. Christ, saying the right things now overtakes looking like a bunch of strangers on the pitch and having no plan these days. Makes sense. Bayern do you post off a phone or key board ,because you must go through some keyboards with you rants , I hope to god you're a young man because your blood pressure must be going through the roof
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Post by stokeson on Aug 12, 2018 19:47:12 GMT
Bayern I allways respect your view.Hes talking about players that don't deliver don't play.Ilike that .proof of the pud obviously but im giving him more than 2 games.
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Post by fortressbritannia on Aug 12, 2018 19:48:27 GMT
The biggest issue for me is we need a proper DCM. One of the biggest reasons we went down in my opinion is that we never replaced Whelan, even in 16/17 when in was plainly obvious that age was catching up with him, we had to rely on him being in the team because we were awful without him. Fletcher is not the answer he's past it.
There absolutely not combat in our midfield at the moment. The best player on our books to play there is Cameron and I'm not convinced that's the solution. Bother Leeds and Brentford pissed all over our midfield they've barely won a tackle all match. There's no point having the likes of Bojan in our team if we can't even win the ball and we are relying on our back 4 to swat away every attack that the opposition mount.
It's embarrassing. Does anyone know if Delap is match fit....
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Aug 12, 2018 19:48:29 GMT
They really are. Its not like we went down fighting or showed anything. And then we get threads like this blaming fans. It’s fucking laughable. No body is blaming the fans ,we all know the team failed us last season ,but its a new season and its only game two ,It will take time ,new players bedding in ,old players believing in themselves again,bad players been left out , a new manager starting to see what he has and changing it ,for gods sake lets get behind them and make them believe we can do it, You’d be better off saying nothing until you’ve seen a ball kicked this season. The last 2 games have been an utter shit show. An absolute disgrace. They’re lucky that they only got boos at full time yesterday. No amount of seal clapping is going to change the fact that we’ve got a totally disjointed squad, a boat load of players who shouldn’t be here and a clueless manager. Give your head a wobble!
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Post by wilcopotter on Aug 12, 2018 19:52:14 GMT
Never boo your own team -callem to death on here yes but Never boo your own team I agee. Booing your own team only helps the opposition. Understand fans are pissed off ( me included), but booing the team will only make things worse.
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Post by ursemboys on Aug 12, 2018 19:56:06 GMT
No body is blaming the fans ,we all know the team failed us last season ,but its a new season and its only game two ,It will take time ,new players bedding in ,old players believing in themselves again,bad players been left out , a new manager starting to see what he has and changing it ,for gods sake lets get behind them and make them believe we can do it, You’d be better off saying nothing until you’ve seen a ball kicked this season. The last 2 games have been an utter shit show. An absolute disgrace. They’re lucky that they only got boos at full time yesterday. No amount of seal clapping is going to change the fact that we’ve got a totally disjointed squad, a boat load of players who shouldn’t be here and a clueless manager. Give your head a wobble! Not seen a ball kicked ? I saw the same has you , and yes its poor ,seal clapping ? head a wobble ? I have said already we needs to improve and the squad is bad but booing does nothing but make things worse ,I could be abusive and tell you where go with your stupid head wobble comments but that just make me immature just like you are .
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 12, 2018 19:56:31 GMT
Never boo your own team -callem to death on here yes but Never boo your own team I agee. Booing your own team only helps the opposition. Understand fans are pissed off ( me included), but booing the team will only make things worse. Agree but I suspect the frustration won’t be directed at the players
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 12, 2018 20:09:28 GMT
Bayern I allways respect your view.Hes talking about players that don't deliver don't play.Ilike that .proof of the pud obviously but im giving him more than 2 games. I am too. My issue is with the shower of shot on the pitch. It does worry me though that there’s been absolutely no change.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 12, 2018 20:13:37 GMT
People won’t think that especially when there is absolutely no sign that we’re better than last season. We’ve got worse. Why wouldn’t people boo? We don’t believe they can do, they need to show us that they can. Because as I keep saying there’s at least 15 players in this squad that most of us wouldn’t give a shit about if they left tomorrow. That’s the state we’re in. It’s not something that cheering will change. We need a plan. We need some tactics that suit us. We need some players that can play football. We need some players that give a fuck. None of that is on show. And we haven’t seen it for years. Nothing but us looking like something like a football team sorts this mess out. I think we have been caught out by the way other teams have come at us ,the fast pace ,yes there players that thought this will be easy ,Shawcross looks terrible at the min ,he thinks he has more time than he does, Allen looks lost. Rowett know how we need play it ,he just needs the players to get to grips ,I am sure after a few more games we will see a big improvement. But booing no matter how frustrated we get only helps the opposing team ,just remember some of the player will be thinking f you ,they are the players we need replace with players who care ,and I believe Rowett will do that he just needs time He does need time and I think most of it isn’t aimed at him. It’s aimee at the players. Most of whom are the same ones as last season. And I might be way off here as I don’t know what he thinks about the booing. But Rowett has said that some of the attitudes in the squad are wrong and that they haven’t played well. I think he might appreciate it and actually use it to try and shame them. It backs his assertions up. As I said that might be way off but he strikes me as someone who wouldn’t mind it if it was justified.
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Post by ursemboys on Aug 12, 2018 20:20:21 GMT
I think we have been caught out by the way other teams have come at us ,the fast pace ,yes there players that thought this will be easy ,Shawcross looks terrible at the min ,he thinks he has more time than he does, Allen looks lost. Rowett know how we need play it ,he just needs the players to get to grips ,I am sure after a few more games we will see a big improvement. But booing no matter how frustrated we get only helps the opposing team ,just remember some of the player will be thinking f you ,they are the players we need replace with players who care ,and I believe Rowett will do that he just needs time He does need time and I think most of it isn’t aimed at him. It’s aimee at the players. Most of whom are the same ones as last season. And I might be way off here as I don’t know what he thinks about the booing. But Rowett has said that some of the attitudes in the squad are wrong and that they haven’t played well. I think he might appreciate it and actually use it to try and shame them. It backs his assertions up. As I said that might be way off but he strikes me as someone who wouldn’t mind it if it was justified. You could be on to something there ,I just mentioned on another thread about championship and lower leagues players might be better that our prem players ,they definitly don't like it played at the pace it is played. The booing just might work in his favour ,I just hate to hear our fans booing our players ,I have seen to many times how it gives the opposing team a lift
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Post by richardparker on Aug 12, 2018 20:21:15 GMT
There's no denying that, in part, it helped get us relegated last season. Am not a happy clapper by any means but if our fan-base just expects to turn up and blow away the opposition in this league every time ... we're in for another tough season! So moaners ' ... fock op!' Now is the time to get behind team and manager! Fock op yourself you stopid twut Another moaner that needs to shat the fock op?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 12, 2018 20:25:53 GMT
He does need time and I think most of it isn’t aimed at him. It’s aimee at the players. Most of whom are the same ones as last season. And I might be way off here as I don’t know what he thinks about the booing. But Rowett has said that some of the attitudes in the squad are wrong and that they haven’t played well. I think he might appreciate it and actually use it to try and shame them. It backs his assertions up. As I said that might be way off but he strikes me as someone who wouldn’t mind it if it was justified. You could be on to something there ,I just mentioned on another thread about championship and lower leagues players might be better that our prem players ,they definitly don't like it played at the pace it is played. The booing just might work in his favour ,I just hate to hear our fans booing our players ,I have seen to many times how it gives the opposing team a lift I’m not a fan and tend not to join in, I’m more of a foul mouthed rant kind of a man I didn’t boo yesterday but I got it. There are some big problems at this club and we can’t just let it happen.
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Post by bobby1eye on Aug 12, 2018 20:32:47 GMT
Hands up I didn't see the game or even highlights yet because I've been away. However it seems that every disappointing result is greeted with near hysteria and outrageously radical comments. Trying to read anything worthwhile and positive is pointless. It's the same old, with the same old charlatans spouting negativity at every opportunity. The club have got a new manager and whole crop of new players that are going to need time to gel. We also are the team that everyone wants to shoot down. The geordies lost their first two games at the start of the last season yet walked it by the end. Ffs give them some time. Totally agree mate ,there are a few who just like to moan , I even read that some want the manger gone, a fair few wanted some players gone and now after two games they want them back ,just read a comment we missed the boat with Moyes and Sam ffs sake don't they read the papers they turned us down ,I swear to god a fair few on here are only kids who aint got a clue ,wonder where the missing 4 + thousand where yesterday ? perhaps defected to Wolves. Stoke fans my arse Think your being a tad unfair to be honest. Were you once not a kid and didn't have a clue and just because there opinion is different to yours they aren't stoke fans. Get a grip man.
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Post by bobby1eye on Aug 12, 2018 20:36:00 GMT
They really are. Its not like we went down fighting or showed anything. And then we get threads like this blaming fans. It’s fucking laughable. No body is blaming the fans ,we all know the team failed us last season ,but its a new season and its only game two ,It will take time ,new players bedding in ,old players believing in themselves again,bad players been left out , a new manager starting to see what he has and changing it ,for gods sake lets get behind them and make them believe we can do it, You moaned about other fans posting on here saying they haven't got a clue. Let's hope they ignore you contradictory posts.
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Post by thehoof on Aug 12, 2018 20:42:00 GMT
I am sick and tired of hearing how players on anywhere between 20 to 60k a week need to be constantly applauded if we are to expect them to perform. Do you live in the real world? With the exception of Shawcross who gets slaughtered on here (perhaps Allen who signed a longer contract), which of this lot show any loyalty to the fans? The only reason they are at Stoke is for the filthy lucre- the moment they are offered more they will be off. Forget the fact that half of the side need 4 touches to control the ball, that there is more spine in a jellyfish than two thirds of this team, and that we managed one shot on target in the whole game. Forget that what we are witnessing now is a continuation of a process that began over 20 months ago. Poor old Rowett has been hoodwinked good and proper by Coates, Scholes and co- so long as we ignore the fact that both teams we have played against were miles better than us, so long as we assume that we will get better but everyone else will not then the OP is right. Of course it’s also possible that the OP may well be a bit of an Ostrich and can’t see what those of us who have suffered the exceptionally poor fayre of the first two games have put up with😡
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Post by Godo on Aug 12, 2018 21:44:24 GMT
The state of our squad is such that I am afraid the negativity is justified because at the moment it looks more likely that we will be in a fight against relegation and not for promotion. With the same executives at the club who got us here and Rowett apparently incapable of getting a proper shape in midfield or confidence and fight in the team a major improvement doesn't appear to be just around the corner.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Aug 12, 2018 21:55:13 GMT
No body is blaming the fans ,we all know the team failed us last season ,but its a new season and its only game two ,It will take time ,new players bedding in ,old players believing in themselves again,bad players been left out , a new manager starting to see what he has and changing it ,for gods sake lets get behind them and make them believe we can do it, It’s not something that cheering will change. We need a plan. We need some tactics that suit us. We need some players that can play football. We need some players that give a fuck. None of that is on show. And we haven’t seen it for years. This pretty much sums it up. We look completely fucking clueless, and no amount of noise from the crowd is going to change that. Rowett is being paid handsomely to lead us back into the Premier League, and so far, he’s delivered a steaming pile of shit.
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Aug 12, 2018 22:04:43 GMT
You’d be better off saying nothing until you’ve seen a ball kicked this season. The last 2 games have been an utter shit show. An absolute disgrace. They’re lucky that they only got boos at full time yesterday. No amount of seal clapping is going to change the fact that we’ve got a totally disjointed squad, a boat load of players who shouldn’t be here and a clueless manager. Give your head a wobble! Not seen a ball kicked ? I saw the same has you , and yes its poor ,seal clapping ? head a wobble ? I have said already we needs to improve and the squad is bad but booing does nothing but make things worse ,I could be abusive and tell you where go with your stupid head wobble comments but that just make me immature just like you are . Apologies, thought you were the OP! Didn’t boo myself but they absolutely deserved it yesterday.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 12, 2018 22:10:47 GMT
Hands up I didn't see the game or even highlights yet because I've been away. However it seems that every disappointing result is greeted with near hysteria and outrageously radical comments. Trying to read anything worthwhile and positive is pointless. It's the same old, with the same old charlatans spouting negativity at every opportunity. The club have got a new manager and whole crop of new players that are going to need time to gel. We also are the team that everyone wants to shoot down. The geordies lost their first two games at the start of the last season yet walked it by the end. Ffs give them some time. You're sick of the negativity about something you haven't experienced or even seen? Blimey, that's some arrogance.
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Post by generationex on Aug 12, 2018 22:16:07 GMT
The most frequent posters on this board posted most when we were doing better than at any time than in the last 43 years.
They didn’t like the most successful manager or management structure since at least 1972 (or arguably ever in the history of the club).
These people like Soccer. And ‘Fever Pitch’. And the ‘Beautiful Game’. They like ‘Foreign’.
Stoke City will never be this. But they want it sooo badly.
The bad news is 2011-13 was the high water mark. And they still HATED it.
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