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Post by pacman on Aug 5, 2018 17:27:34 GMT
Well looks like they need to earn their millions this week. After the performance today they need to pull a couple of amazing signings out of the bag this week. I however, can’t see this happening and then it will all be someone else’s fault when we don’t achieve what we want to this year
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Post by cdlstoke on Aug 5, 2018 17:29:42 GMT
It’s down to Coates keeping them here. Crap from top to bottom.
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Post by Cast no shadow on Aug 5, 2018 17:36:04 GMT
It is absolutely clear that a major overhaul is required. We need to regain our identity and focus and the summer will be spent doing this.
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Post by stokeykez on Aug 5, 2018 17:37:18 GMT
Not going to happen
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Post by stoneroses on Aug 5, 2018 17:38:07 GMT
Absolute poison.. they could ruin this club for the next 10 years if we are not careful.
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Post by pacman on Aug 5, 2018 17:45:31 GMT
How they have seen off 3 managers, a number of terrible signings, a relegation season due to massive levels of incompetence and survived is beyond me.
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Post by xchpotter on Aug 5, 2018 18:07:18 GMT
How they have seen off 3 managers, a number of terrible signings, a relegation season due to massive levels of incompetence and survived is beyond me. Easy.......blind chairman.
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Post by superheroantonius on Aug 5, 2018 19:32:48 GMT
Our pizza boys are of the same calibre as the Sunderland pizza boys
As with Sunderland , this will go badly
As with Sunderland , no one in power cares
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Post by questionable on Aug 5, 2018 19:35:28 GMT
Absolute poison.. they could ruin this club for the next 10 years if we are not careful. Heard that they’re pretty much joined at the hip with local agents??
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Post by PotteringThrough on Aug 5, 2018 19:35:30 GMT
You could say it's time to earn their crust ...
But you didn't, you made a very valid point.
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Post by stonestokie76 on Aug 5, 2018 19:37:16 GMT
Anyone thinking four or five in are going to be disappointed. We have several players we don't want on 70k plus per week and until they are off the wages we are stuck.
So forget your Vyrda, Richie etc and hope we can get the left back done for around a mill.
No one wants them, so our hands are tied, expect only 1 more perm and maybe a couple of loans at the end of the window if we manage to get rid of a few.
This was coming, we are like QPR, load of average players on massive wages no one wants.
It will take until their contracts run out to fix. E,g Choppo never been sold has always run his contract down, but has no plans on playing for us!
Sad but true.
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Post by rorystowel on Aug 5, 2018 19:39:06 GMT
They are immune, and we are the ones who will suffer
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 5, 2018 19:40:22 GMT
All the things people are railing about happened on the watch of the ceo until he is held accountable and leaves nothing will change , a message I’ve given for three years
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Post by march4 on Aug 5, 2018 19:42:24 GMT
Well looks like they need to earn their millions this week. After the performance today they need to pull a couple of amazing signings out of the bag this week. I however, can’t see this happening and then it will all be someone else’s fault when we don’t achieve what we want to this year They shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near the club this week. Rowett should be dealing with this with support from his coaching staff and the Coates Family.
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Post by questionable on Aug 5, 2018 19:43:25 GMT
Well what about getting rid of non playing staff to soften the blow, Scholes and fat greasy bloke must push 35 per week
Problem is everyone is feathering their nest and we’re left with this shit
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Post by questionable on Aug 5, 2018 19:46:37 GMT
Anyone thinking four or five in are going to be disappointed. We have several players we don't want on 70k plus per week and until they are off the wages we are stuck. So forget your Vyrda, Richie etc and hope we can get the left back done for around a mill. No one wants them, so our hands are tied, expect only 1 more perm and maybe a couple of loans at the end of the window if we manage to get rid of a few. This was coming, we are like QPR, load of average players on massive wages no one wants. It will take until their contracts run out to fix. E,g Choppo never been sold has always run his contract down, but has no plans on playing for us! Sad but true. But it won’t stop though mate see Allan, Shawcross extensions
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Post by s8to on Aug 5, 2018 19:47:25 GMT
We should get something going on Radio Stoke / Sentinel .. let the board know these toxic avengers have to go!
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Post by stonestokie76 on Aug 5, 2018 19:50:16 GMT
Anyone thinking four or five in are going to be disappointed. We have several players we don't want on 70k plus per week and until they are off the wages we are stuck. So forget your Vyrda, Richie etc and hope we can get the left back done for around a mill. No one wants them, so our hands are tied, expect only 1 more perm and maybe a couple of loans at the end of the window if we manage to get rid of a few. This was coming, we are like QPR, load of average players on massive wages no one wants. It will take until their contracts run out to fix. E,g Choppo never been sold has always run his contract down, but has no plans on playing for us! Sad but true. But it won’t stop though mate see Allan, Shawcross extensions I know!, Its terrible really, I don't know which way we turn now. Clearly more investment is needed. But we are stuck with all these players. Don't know how they are going to pull several rabbits out of the bag before Thursday!!
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Post by march4 on Aug 5, 2018 19:53:08 GMT
But it won’t stop though mate see Allan, Shawcross extensions I know!, Its terrible really, I don't know which way we turn now. Clearly more investment is needed. But we are stuck with all these players. Don't know how they are going to pull several rabbits out of the bag before Thursday!! Easy - give Rowett and his coaches a budget and tell him to spend it how he sees fit. Also he keeps any money recouped by outgoings.
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Post by stonestokie76 on Aug 5, 2018 19:55:29 GMT
I know!, Its terrible really, I don't know which way we turn now. Clearly more investment is needed. But we are stuck with all these players. Don't know how they are going to pull several rabbits out of the bag before Thursday!! Easy - give Rowett and his coaches a budget and tell him to spend it how he sees fit. Also he keeps any money recouped by outgoings. If only we as a club operated in that way!, But we seem to have our special arrangement!
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Post by s8to on Aug 5, 2018 19:57:17 GMT
Well a loss against Brentford could see the milk turn really sour and 18 months worth of decline come into full focus.. The world would get very toxic for the owners and the pizza boys if that happened.. only a good win will do!
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Post by FrostySCFC on Aug 6, 2018 9:48:15 GMT
How they have seen off 3 managers, a number of terrible signings, a relegation season due to massive levels of incompetence and survived is beyond me. I was talking to someone a couple of months back that used to be employed in a high level at Stoke and he was very scathing of Scholes and Cartwright. Especially Scholes though. He couldn't believe that Coates hasn't got rid of him/them yet; especially with what has happened with Stoke in recent years. He used a lot of F and C words to describe Scholes, called him a snake and all sorts too. He is not a liked person and clearly useless at his job, but still remains. The mind boggles.
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Post by philb on Aug 6, 2018 9:52:27 GMT
Well a loss against Brentford could see the milk turn really sour and 18 months worth of decline come into full focus.. The world would get very toxic for the owners and the pizza boys if that happened.. only a good win will do! It would be a shame, after the club had managed to start to get the goodwill going again pre season for it to all fall apart again due to more incompetence. Surely the club won’t let this happen? 4 days to get our shit sorted.
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Post by s8to on Aug 6, 2018 10:01:32 GMT
Well a loss against Brentford could see the milk turn really sour and 18 months worth of decline come into full focus.. The world would get very toxic for the owners and the pizza boys if that happened.. only a good win will do! It would be a shame, after the club had managed to start to get the goodwill going again pre season for it to all fall apart again due to more incompetence. Surely the club won’t let this happen? 4 days to get our shit sorted. I would agree, but have they got the where with all to get this done, a lot of which should have been done months ago!
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 6, 2018 10:03:58 GMT
“In Gary we have a manager with great experience of this league with relative success. I say relative because he hasn’t won anything, but some would argue he hasn’t had the tools to do that necessarily." T Scholes He's got the 'tools' now, that's for sure! www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-tony-scholes-recruitment-1704281“When you have a poor season like that it’s important to look closely at what went wrong, why it went wrong, your part in why it went wrong and to learn from all of those instances.” Tick tock.......
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Post by starkiller on Aug 6, 2018 10:16:32 GMT
Leave the transfers to Rowett.
With the other two, I expect more disappointmemt come deadline day.
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Post by superheroantonius on Aug 6, 2018 14:59:45 GMT
Pizza boys motto :
' we live and we learn , well, we live '
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 6, 2018 15:22:25 GMT
Pizza boys motto : ' we live and we learn , well, we live ' 'we live and we earn'
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Post by uskstokie on Aug 6, 2018 16:57:02 GMT
Tony scholes and Mark Cartwright for me are the biggest problem at the club.... I am not the best a writing down my thoughts but here goes... For a start (Cartwright in particulate) what do they do that’s good?? I feel like they hold back a lot of mangers from getting the best players for the team. They seem to take a lot of power away form the manager. Also they seem have Coates in there pocket. Sorry for my rambling but this is just my thought on the pair....
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 6, 2018 17:01:11 GMT
You don't know what they do but you criticise them based on that, good one
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