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Post by werrington on Aug 2, 2018 6:36:01 GMT
According to SSN...with one week to go
Stoke £24.4m
Forest £21.7m
Leeds £13m
Boro £12m
Bristol City £11.1m
WBA £9m
Survey of championship supporters re best transfer business is ...
Stoke 34%
Leeds 34%
Forest 22%
Boro 10%
Seems only on here are we doing it on the cheap along with poor business and signings as others think differently
Those are the facts people will put their own slant on it .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 6:39:48 GMT
Still not enough. It's not just the amount though is it. Our sqaud is short in a few area and needs filling. We have money so players we target will be at a premium.
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Post by werrington on Aug 2, 2018 6:41:24 GMT
Still not enough. It's not just the amount though is it. Our sqaud is short in a few area and needs filling. We have money so players we target will be at a premium. Isn’t that what Rowett is doing re a centre half and left back being earmarked? |
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Post by maliciousdamage on Aug 2, 2018 6:48:24 GMT
I guess we all now know it’s not what you spend but how you spend it, a little can get you a lot ie Arnie and a lot can get you a little ie Imbula/Wimmer so I’m taking no notice of what Sky, the newspapers etc say this season I’m goin with my gut and my gut says we still need gialscorers and we are obsessing over defenders again (bar we should have a left back for cover granted)
Shit loads of 0-0 or 1-0 defeats won’t get us promoted
Let’s see how the moneys been spent by Sept 1st and how we stand in the league after a few games, by then it should be a clearer picture
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Post by mallorcanstokie on Aug 2, 2018 6:49:31 GMT
Without doubt we have the strongest team and squad in the championship.....on paper,
But as we all know the game is decided on the pitch, GR's biggest job, in my opinion, is
attitude once out there, he already has a great starting eleven but it's getting them to
perform, any player who thinks he's too good for this league needs a good kick up the ass.
100% effort or it didn't matter who we sign.....
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 2, 2018 6:49:53 GMT
I guess we all now know it’s not what you spend but how you spend it, a little can get you a lot ie Arnie and a lot can get you a little ie Imbula/Wimmer so I’m taking no notice of what Sky, the newspapers etc say this season I’m goin with my gut and my gut says we still need gialscorers and we are obsessing over defenders again (bar we should have a left back for cover granted) Shit loads of 0-0 or 1-0 defeats won’t get us promoted Let’s see how the moneys been spent by Sept 1st and how we stand in the league after a few games, by then it should be a clearer picture We need defenders as well as forwards though don't we? If Ryan tweaks his back, are you happy with a season of Geoff at centre half? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 6:51:58 GMT
Have we spent in the right areas and on the right profile of player?
As was said on here last night, it's not just about the fees.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 2, 2018 6:55:07 GMT
I think the biggest problem is we needed a huge overhaul because
1 - we have a lot of dead wood.Fletcher, Adam, Afellay who we are stuck with.
3 - we have released / sold a good number of players leaving us very short in certain spots. 24m is a decent amount but we need so much more to put everything right. Plus we’ve had around that amount in for sales.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 2, 2018 6:55:51 GMT
What’s the net spend figures? Or is that it?
We’re still way short and it’s the outgoings that has been the terrible business.
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Post by maliciousdamage on Aug 2, 2018 6:55:53 GMT
I guess we all now know it’s not what you spend but how you spend it, a little can get you a lot ie Arnie and a lot can get you a little ie Imbula/Wimmer so I’m taking no notice of what Sky, the newspapers etc say this season I’m goin with my gut and my gut says we still need gialscorers and we are obsessing over defenders again (bar we should have a left back for cover granted) Shit loads of 0-0 or 1-0 defeats won’t get us promoted Let’s see how the moneys been spent by Sept 1st and how we stand in the league after a few games, by then it should be a clearer picture We need defenders as well as forwards though don't we? If Ryan tweaks his back, are you happy with a season of Geoff at centre half? You’re right I know but I’d be looking to strengthen that forward line more than just Afobe, Diouf can’t be trusted and Crouch is an impact sub at best. As I said left back cover is a priority but Cameron could fill in at centre half for me in the Championship we need goals to win games !! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 6:56:13 GMT
Have we spent in the right areas and on the right profile of player? As was said on here last night, it's not just about the fees. I’d say so far we have. Just not enough of them (yet). |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 7:02:38 GMT
What’s the net spend figures? Or is that it? We’re still way short and it’s the outgoings that has been the terrible business. Don’t need to go full-benji on us  If I remember correctly, we’re 2nd in terms of net spend (Forest 1st). To be fair, it doesn’t mean a whole lot; the balance and quality of the squad to do the job is more important imho. So far so good with the incomings, but we need more of them as we’re still short in CM and cover for wings and at the back. |
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Post by nutterpotter on Aug 2, 2018 7:03:53 GMT
According to SSN...with one week to go Stoke £24.4m Forest £21.7m Leeds £13m Boro £12m Bristol City £11.1m WBA £9m Survey of championship supporters re best transfer business is ... Stoke 34% Leeds 34% Forest 22% Boro 10% Seems only on here are we doing it on the cheap along with poor business and signings as others think differently Those are the facts people will put their own slant on it . Out of interest, what are the net spend figures? |
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Post by werrington on Aug 2, 2018 7:05:25 GMT
According to SSN...with one week to go Stoke £24.4m Forest £21.7m Leeds £13m Boro £12m Bristol City £11.1m WBA £9m Survey of championship supporters re best transfer business is ... Stoke 34% Leeds 34% Forest 22% Boro 10% Seems only on here are we doing it on the cheap along with poor business and signings as others think differently Those are the facts people will put their own slant on it . Out of interest, what are the net spend figures? No idea mate, just quoting the figures ssn put out |
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Post by juiceandbits on Aug 2, 2018 7:07:33 GMT
Have we spent in the right areas and on the right profile of player? As was said on here last night, it's not just about the fees. I also think some people on here (not saying you per se) need to realise this is one transfer window and shorter than normal. We're not going to do it all in one window and in some cases (Chester, Ritchie and Gayle) have been the victim of circumstance. If we get these two defenders in along with a couple of loans I think you can reasonably say our business has been good as has made us competitive. Whether than translates to good results is a different matter. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 2, 2018 7:10:04 GMT
What’s the net spend figures? Or is that it? We’re still way short and it’s the outgoings that has been the terrible business. Think we're third in terms of net spend behind Forest and Boro. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 2, 2018 7:10:45 GMT
What’s the net spend figures? Or is that it? We’re still way short and it’s the outgoings that has been the terrible business. Don’t need to go full-benji on us If I remember correctly, we’re 2nd in terms of net spend (Forest 1st). To be fair, it doesn’t mean a whole lot; the balance and quality of the squad to do the job is more important imho. So far so good with the incomings, but we need more of them as we’re still short in CM and cover for wings and at the back. I think it’s a decent indicator of intent though. Bare minimum that we still need is; 1 CB 1 LB 1 DM 1 winger 1 striker We’ve got 5 central midfielders that hardly anyone would blink over if they went tomorrow. That’s a terrible indictment on the transfer team. |
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Post by josefr on Aug 2, 2018 7:10:46 GMT
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 2, 2018 7:12:08 GMT
We need defenders as well as forwards though don't we? If Ryan tweaks his back, are you happy with a season of Geoff at centre half? You’re right I know but I’d be looking to strengthen that forward line more than just Afobe, Diouf can’t be trusted and Crouch is an impact sub at best. As I said left back cover is a priority but Cameron could fill in at centre half for me in the Championship we need goals to win games !! You get nowhere without a decent defence either though, as last season showed. I don't think it's an obsession with defenders, just another area that needs addressing. I agree we need another striker. Probably another wide player and a DM as well. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 2, 2018 7:23:53 GMT
What’s the net spend figures? Or is that it? We’re still way short and it’s the outgoings that has been the terrible business. Think we're third in terms of net spend behind Forest and Boro. So by my reckoning it’s around this; Out Shaq 13m Ramadan 5m Grant 1.5m In Ince 10m McClean 5m Etebo 6.5m Federici 1m? So a net spend so far of about 6m? |
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Post by werrington on Aug 2, 2018 7:30:27 GMT
Think we're third in terms of net spend behind Forest and Boro. So by my reckoning it’s around this; Out Shaq 13m Ramadan 5m Grant 1.5m In Ince 10m McClean 5m Etebo 6.5m Federici 1m? So a net spend so far of about 6m? You conveniently forgot Afobe who is £13m as we are obligated to buy him in January He’s not in those figures so sky can’t quote them until January but you are brushing it under the carpet |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 7:33:00 GMT
Don’t need to go full-benji on us If I remember correctly, we’re 2nd in terms of net spend (Forest 1st). To be fair, it doesn’t mean a whole lot; the balance and quality of the squad to do the job is more important imho. So far so good with the incomings, but we need more of them as we’re still short in CM and cover for wings and at the back. I think it’s a decent indicator of intent though. Bare minimum that we still need is; 1 CB 1 LB 1 DM 1 winger 1 striker We’ve got 5 central midfielders that hardly anyone would blink over if they went tomorrow. That’s a terrible indictment on the transfer team. An indicator, maybe, but it's certainly not the determining factor that people make it out to be mate, especially at this level. Most clubs operate in a net transfer positive or a very small deficit in the Championship, and plenty get promoted doing so. I think I made a post not so long back that all the clubs that bounced straight back up in the last 5 years actually did so with a positive net transfer balance. As I said in my post, the balance and the quality of the squad is far more important, and we remain short in areas. It's nothing new unfortunately. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 2, 2018 7:33:29 GMT
Think we're third in terms of net spend behind Forest and Boro. So by my reckoning it’s around this; Out Shaq 13m Ramadan 5m Grant 1.5m In Ince 10m McClean 5m Etebo 6.5m Federici 1m? So a net spend so far of about 6m? Depends how you consider the Afobe money - do we not count it until Jan or might we as well count it given it's definitely happening? |
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Post by generationex on Aug 2, 2018 7:37:31 GMT
Given the fact that we still spend millions per month paying for Hughes’ duds my greatest fear was a fire sale and a loans and youth based team.
We’ve not done that so the board deserve credit.
I’m not sure we’ll go up but I’m confident we’re not about to drop through the leagues.
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Post by werrington on Aug 2, 2018 7:47:20 GMT
More opposition views on our apparent shit business.....nobody knows how this season will pan out but let’s enjoy the ride
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 2, 2018 7:59:35 GMT
So by my reckoning it’s around this; Out Shaq 13m Ramadan 5m Grant 1.5m In Ince 10m McClean 5m Etebo 6.5m Federici 1m? So a net spend so far of about 6m? You conveniently forgot Afobe who is £13m as we are obligated to buy him in January He’s not in those figures so sky can’t quote them until January but you are brushing it under the carpet I haven't conveniently forgotten him at all. He's here on loan. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 2, 2018 8:00:22 GMT
So by my reckoning it’s around this; Out Shaq 13m Ramadan 5m Grant 1.5m In Ince 10m McClean 5m Etebo 6.5m Federici 1m? So a net spend so far of about 6m? Depends how you consider the Afobe money - do we not count it until Jan or might we as well count it given it's definitely happening? It depends if you believe it's definitely happening.  |
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Post by tribe on Aug 2, 2018 8:01:48 GMT
More opposition views on our apparent shit business.....nobody knows how this season will pan out but let’s enjoy the ride I think there was a thread on here the other day about whether or not Lambert could have done the same job as Rowett...There's no way players would have stayed and no way we'd be fancied half as much to bounce straight back up. Of course Rowett has proved nothing yet but he's certainly a better bet then Lambert. |
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Post by werrington on Aug 2, 2018 8:01:48 GMT
You conveniently forgot Afobe who is £13m as we are obligated to buy him in January He’s not in those figures so sky can’t quote them until January but you are brushing it under the carpet I haven't conveniently forgotten him at all. He's here on loan. Only in name as we are legally obliged to pay the money in January...you know it, I know it and everybody knows it.....interpretation of it is the thing |
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Post by maliciousdamage on Aug 2, 2018 8:07:45 GMT
You’re right I know but I’d be looking to strengthen that forward line more than just Afobe, Diouf can’t be trusted and Crouch is an impact sub at best. As I said left back cover is a priority but Cameron could fill in at centre half for me in the Championship we need goals to win games !! You get nowhere without a decent defence either though, as last season showed. I don't think it's an obsession with defenders, just another area that needs addressing. I agree we need another striker. Probably another wide player and a DM as well. I think if we keep the current back five they will be good enough for the Championship need only covering players for injury etc it is just that lack of goals not only from up front but midfield as well that scares me we seem obsessed with defence and overloaded with non creative midfielders (hoping Etebo changes this a bit) non scoring ones either and strikers that can’t hit a cows arse with a banjo, this being the fact for two seasons and no managers or the club addressing it!!! Rant over lol 😂 |
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If I remember correctly, we’re 2nd in terms of net spend (Forest 1st). To be fair, it doesn’t mean a whole lot; the balance and quality of the squad to do the job is more important imho. So far so good with the incomings, but we need more of them as we’re still short in CM and cover for wings and at the back. 
