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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 7, 2018 19:28:07 GMT
Having watched Butland this whole season I feel it's fair to say he's nowhere near as good as Pickford. And I said this ages ago you can go back and read everything. There's a reason Pickfords playing and not Butland. The reason he’s playing ahead of Butland is his distribution. Everyone knows that. Think I’ll pass on the idea of reading back through your posts. You’d have only said it to get a reaction even if you did actually say it. That’s pretty much how you operate. Someones just told me Pickfords distribution is poor? So what is it. I think he's just a lot better overall.
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Post by Absolution on Jul 7, 2018 19:30:34 GMT
The reason he’s playing ahead of Butland is his distribution. Everyone knows that. Think I’ll pass on the idea of reading back through your posts. You’d have only said it to get a reaction even if you did actually say it. That’s pretty much how you operate. Someones just told me Pickfords distribution is poor? So what is it. I think he's just a lot better overall. What is it? Pickford’s in goal because his distribution is known to be better. That’s what it is. Everyone knows it.
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Post by Absolution on Jul 7, 2018 19:32:38 GMT
Having watched Butland this whole season I feel it's fair to say he's nowhere near as good as Pickford. And I said this ages ago you can go back and read everything. There's a reason Pickfords playing and not Butland. So you watched Pickford all season as well then? I’m going for “Yes.”
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jul 7, 2018 19:33:35 GMT
Someones just told me Pickfords distribution is poor? So what is it. I think he's just a lot better overall. What is it? Pickford’s in goal because his distribution is known to be better. That’s what it is. Everyone knows it. It is but today I thought his distribution was bang average. Whereas his goalkeeping was excellent.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 7, 2018 19:34:33 GMT
Someones just told me Pickfords distribution is poor? So what is it. I think he's just a lot better overall. What is it? Pickford’s in goal because his distribution is known to be better. That’s what it is. Everyone knows it. Everytime I watched him at Sunderland I said how good he was, and not just for his distribution. He's just a better goalkeeper in general compared to Butland.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jul 7, 2018 19:37:31 GMT
What is it? Pickford’s in goal because his distribution is known to be better. That’s what it is. Everyone knows it. Everytime I watched him at Sunderland I said how good he was, and not just for his distribution. He's just a better goalkeeper in general compared to Butland. Butland, like Coutoirs, would've caught them all. That said Pickford was excellent and did everything he needed to.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 7, 2018 19:40:31 GMT
Everytime I watched him at Sunderland I said how good he was, and not just for his distribution. He's just a better goalkeeper in general compared to Butland. Butland, like Coutoirs, would've caught them all. That said Pickford was excellent and did everything he needed to. Whatever you say... Lol.
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Post by fca47 on Jul 7, 2018 19:40:55 GMT
All a matter of opinion. He is obviously the No 1 now. But there is a lot of hyperbole about his performance today, good saves but if he had let them in would have been open to criticism. His penalty save was great.
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Post by Absolution on Jul 7, 2018 19:41:32 GMT
What is it? Pickford’s in goal because his distribution is known to be better. That’s what it is. Everyone knows it. It is but today I thought his distribution was bang average. Whereas his goalkeeping was excellent. It probably was today, but Pickford’s place in the team was sealed on the day he made his England debut and was spraying inch-perfect cross-field passes to his team mates. Butland didn’t put a foot wrong for England, and but for the long layoff through injury, would have made the no.1 jersey his own before Pickford had the chance to impress.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jul 7, 2018 19:44:28 GMT
What is it? Pickford’s in goal because his distribution is known to be better. That’s what it is. Everyone knows it. Everytime I watched him at Sunderland I said how good he was, and not just for his distribution. He's just a better goalkeeper in general compared to Butland. Every time I watched him at Burton he was bang average. Mind he was only 19. Oh and by the way I said he was average at the time as well. To no-one in particular but I too like the sound of my own voice.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 7, 2018 19:50:52 GMT
Everytime I watched him at Sunderland I said how good he was, and not just for his distribution. He's just a better goalkeeper in general compared to Butland. Every time I watched him at Burton he was bang average. Mind he was only 19. Oh and by the way I said he was average at the time as well. To no-one in particular but I too like the sound of my own voice. When you get called a cunt for saying Pickford is better than Butland you will probably understand my side. Especially when only a few months later Pickford is the #1 for England and in a Semi-Final with them.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jul 7, 2018 19:57:02 GMT
Every time I watched him at Burton he was bang average. Mind he was only 19. Oh and by the way I said he was average at the time as well. To no-one in particular but I too like the sound of my own voice. When you get called a cunt for saying Pickford is better than Butland you will probably understand my side. Especially when only a few months later Pickford is the #1 for England and in a Semi-Final with them. If you were called a cunt then that's not on. But I have to say your arrogance does you no favours. A little humility occasionally wouldn't go amiss.
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Post by ParaPsych on Jul 7, 2018 19:57:08 GMT
Every time I watched him at Burton he was bang average. Mind he was only 19. Oh and by the way I said he was average at the time as well. To no-one in particular but I too like the sound of my own voice. When you get called a cunt for saying Pickford is better than Butland you will probably understand my side. Especially when only a few months later Pickford is the #1 for England and in a Semi-Final with them. I thought you didn't care what people think about you? Got to say, Pickford seems suitably full of self confidence and a little bit mental for a keeper. Keepers should always be a bit mental. I still think Butland pre-injury was very good though, he just doesn't look quite as confident these days. Pickford's distribution is generally a lot better than Butland's though, sure he booted some out today but he can also pick people out in a way Butland can't. Don't think we have a genuinely world class keeper available to us though.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 7, 2018 19:58:22 GMT
When you get called a cunt for saying Pickford is better than Butland you will probably understand my side. Especially when only a few months later Pickford is the #1 for England and in a Semi-Final with them. I thought you didn't care what people think about you? Got to say, Pickford seems suitably full of self confidence and a little bit mental for a keeper. Keepers should always be a bit mental. I still think Butland pre-injury was very good though, he just doesn't look quite as confident these days. Pickford's distribution is generally a lot better than Butland's though, sure he booted some out today but he can also pick people out in a way Butland can't. Don't think we have a genuinely world class keeper available to us though. I don't. But it's fair enough for me to rub it in when the player I backed is doing so well.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jul 7, 2018 20:01:12 GMT
I thought you didn't care what people think about you? Got to say, Pickford seems suitably full of self confidence and a little bit mental for a keeper. Keepers should always be a bit mental. I still think Butland pre-injury was very good though, he just doesn't look quite as confident these days. Pickford's distribution is generally a lot better than Butland's though, sure he booted some out today but he can also pick people out in a way Butland can't. Don't think we have a genuinely world class keeper available to us though. I don't. But it's fair enough for me to rub it in when the player I backed is doing so well. But we do have 2/3 as good as any left in the competition.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jul 7, 2018 20:53:14 GMT
I thought you didn't care what people think about you? Got to say, Pickford seems suitably full of self confidence and a little bit mental for a keeper. Keepers should always be a bit mental. I still think Butland pre-injury was very good though, he just doesn't look quite as confident these days. Pickford's distribution is generally a lot better than Butland's though, sure he booted some out today but he can also pick people out in a way Butland can't. Don't think we have a genuinely world class keeper available to us though. I don't. But it's fair enough for me to rub it in when the player I backed is doing so well. De Bruyne is better than Silva ...
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Post by surreystokie on Jul 7, 2018 21:15:19 GMT
Pickford is the better player right now and I have no problem in admitting it. He was not helped by his club ream’s nightmare season and the netsful oh goals conceded, due as much to the players in front of him and the general atmosphere of the club.
However, I feel certain that when GS decided to give everyone a go v Belgium, Jack was the fall guy ( I don't Count Newcomer Nick Pope who was grateful enough to be there at all) he knew that Jack’s temperament assured him that he alone could take it, having been under his guidance and as captain, in the younger age groups.
When Jordan falters, as he will, Jack will be between the sticks and excellent from what I have read, in the dressing room, too. His presence is exceptional and he should now be inspired to improve his kicking next season, hopefully with us.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 21:21:16 GMT
When you get called a cunt for saying Pickford is better than Butland you will probably understand my side. Especially when only a few months later Pickford is the #1 for England and in a Semi-Final with them. I thought you didn't care what people think about you? Got to say, Pickford seems suitably full of self confidence and a little bit mental for a keeper. Keepers should always be a bit mental. I still think Butland pre-injury was very good though, he just doesn't look quite as confident these days. Pickford's distribution is generally a lot better than Butland's though, sure he booted some out today but he can also pick people out in a way Butland can't. Don't think we have a genuinely world class keeper available to us though. Pickford is definitely a little bit mental, longer term I think Butland would be a better option, but he was bang average this season and he was playing for a team that got relegated, he doesn’t deserve to be England number one at present. However, if he can find the form of a few years ago then I think he can displace Pickford, Jack is a better keeper and in time he will show it. Pickfords penalty save was great (I’m aware jack has been dodgy in penalties) but Jack gives me far more confidence. Fingers crossed Pickford has a few good games and we win the cup, but I don’t think that guarantees he is the man with the gloves for the next 10 years as if not Jack, then somebody better will come along.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jul 7, 2018 21:30:32 GMT
Now I know why it’s not rained for two weeks.
Jordan Pickford has stopped it.
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Post by ethers26 on Jul 7, 2018 21:30:32 GMT
Why has this thread descended into one lad begging for people to notice he said Pickford is a good keeper?
That same keeper who's the 3rd most expensive goalkeeper of all time.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 7, 2018 22:42:21 GMT
I don't. But it's fair enough for me to rub it in when the player I backed is doing so well. De Bruyne is better than Silva ... Which one.
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 7, 2018 23:14:06 GMT
A few decent saves today,but ones that he should be making. None worthy of the over the top adulation that he's received, and the same old problem of him spilling the ball into his six yards box came up.
Maybe if people could just accept that he's a bog standard young keeper with plenty of flaws, and that he's neither a worldbeater (see: the press today) or a fourth division keeper (see: the press after Belgium).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 0:13:00 GMT
De Bruyne is better than Silva ... Which one. Pick one, he's the best midfielder in the world right now
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 8, 2018 0:33:20 GMT
He's a better keeper than Butland, simple.
No need to be bitter.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 8, 2018 0:51:16 GMT
Wank save. Should have caught it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 1:20:00 GMT
He's a better keeper than Butland, simple. No need to be bitter. No one's being bitter. Just what exactly brings you to that conclusion? Both average for their club side this season... Pickfords distribution on occasion is better than Butlands Butlands shot stopping on occasion is better than Pickfords Other than that there are much of a muchness Simple
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Post by PotterLog on Jul 8, 2018 1:31:27 GMT
The whole nation thinks Pickford’s made some fantastic saves. I’ve not heard anyone say or even remotely indicate that he’s the only keeper in our squad that could have made those saves. Except you. Having watched Butland this whole season I feel it's fair to say he's nowhere near as good as Pickford. And I said this ages ago you can go back and read everything. I had a moment so I did, and it turns out you're fibbing. This is what you said: It's not going to jump up 20 mill for a keeper that is ** on par with** Pickford. I think he's ** just as good as** Butland. Regaring Pickford's transfer to Everton: at least that stamps Butlands price tag as about 85 million That's not "nowhere near as good" is it. And the one time you came close to saying Pickford was superior, you said he was "probably" a better option in the specific context of him going to Everton: Pickford is probably a better option? None of that is anything close to "far better," "nowhere near as good" etc etc as you're rather haughtily claiming in this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 7:25:20 GMT
That same keeper who's the 3rd most expensive goalkeeper of all time. In this day and age that means nothing, transfer fees are just massively inflated. It won’t be long before we see championship clubs spending 30m on a player. I wonder what a young Buffon would go for in today’s market, probably £200m.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 8, 2018 7:27:54 GMT
He's a better keeper than Butland, simple. No need to be bitter. No one's being bitter. Just what exactly brings you to that conclusion? Both average for their club side this season... Pickfords distribution on occasion is better than Butlands Butlands shot stopping on occasion is better than Pickfords Other than that there are much of a muchness Simple Pickford had a much better season than Butland. He’s the better goalkeeper. Think they’re both good though.
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Jul 8, 2018 7:41:01 GMT
They are two decent keepers on a par...either would be fine. Pickfords couple of saves were standard ..a tip over with the shot right at him and a block save with his feet. Lets say you see it every week in all 4 divisions at home and nobody.."loses their shit".
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