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Post by alster on May 27, 2018 21:32:45 GMT
Very dramatic but not really an acid test of whether it is sufficient to be charged with a racially aggravated offence under criminal law. Thanks, but seriously, in this day and age, a player getting slagged off because of his heritage. Really? It's not a good look is it. Realistically people get slagged off with reference to their heritage millions of times a day. PC policemen like yourself like to jump all over it like its the crime of the century if it refers to race, colour, religion, gender, sexual orientation. Its complete overkill, it no more says I have a deep seated hatred of Irishmen than calling someone a Brummie cunt means I have a deep seated hatred of people from Birmingham. The law has seldom been used so officiously to prosecute racially aggravated offences. You'd be far more likely to face a public order charge for public obscenity, quite rightly IMO. Save your racism for real cases of racial hatred or descrimination throwing it around like confetti at a wedding simply devalues the worthy cause of equality.
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Post by realstokebloke on May 27, 2018 22:02:00 GMT
Really? I give you: " A ruling was handed down in 2007 that the city officially remained Londonderry, according to the Royal Charter of 10 April 1662:[1] The local government district and the city and the county are three separate entities. Only the name of the local government district (and the consequential changes to the names of the borough and the council) were affected by the Order in 1984. ... Further I reject the applicant's argument that the Department is obliged to exercise powers under section 134(1) of the Local Government (Northern Ireland) Act 1972 to modify the 1662 Charter to change the name of the city from Londonderry to Derry or that the Department is otherwise obliged to effect that name change. To achieve the name change desired by the applicant it is necessary to alter the 1662 Charter by the further exercise of the Prerogative or by legislation. Mr Justice Weatherup, ruling on 25 January 2007" & also: "The London prefix was added to Derry when the city was granted a Royal Charter by King James I in 1613. Previous attempts for an official name change have failed. In 1984 the council changed its name from Londonderry to Derry but the city continued to officially be called Londonderry. Irish Times, 24 Jul 2015"
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Post by Pugsley on May 27, 2018 22:03:39 GMT
McClean is shit, thick as shit, and a dirty shit. We haven't a clue if we're signing this kind of footballer. Hughes didn't sign much better did he? Players that turned up when they felt like it, disloyal shits that left after less than a year of signing new deals and players that posed for selfies after getting whacked for 5 at Wembley. Totally irrelevant, Hughes isn't in charge. McClean is a terrible footballer, is thick as pig shit and is a walking yellow/red card. We can and must do a lot better.
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Post by itsajoytobeapotter on May 27, 2018 22:19:07 GMT
Hughes didn't sign much better did he? Players that turned up when they felt like it, disloyal shits that left after less than a year of signing new deals and players that posed for selfies after getting whacked for 5 at Wembley. Totally irrelevant, Hughes isn't in charge. McClean is a terrible footballer, is thick as pig shit and is a walking yellow/red card. We can and must do a lot better. In addition he's an all round unpleasant and nasty piece of work. If this is a sign of what's to come Rowett can fck right off.
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Post by stokienorthants on May 27, 2018 23:50:45 GMT
Irrespective of his politics I think he is a shit footballer with a questionable temperament no thank you.
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Post by portugalpotter on May 28, 2018 2:43:33 GMT
Paper talk. Ignore it. We aren't that desperate. I'd rather see Nello on the wing.
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Post by alster on May 28, 2018 6:27:06 GMT
Totally irrelevant, Hughes isn't in charge. McClean is a terrible footballer, is thick as pig shit and is a walking yellow/red card. We can and must do a lot better. In addition he's an all round unpleasant and nasty piece of work. If this is a sign of what's to come Rowett can fck right off. No problem with a few nasty pieces of work that’s something we’ve been sadly lacking this season, note the outcome.
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Post by itsajoytobeapotter on May 28, 2018 7:16:50 GMT
In addition he's an all round unpleasant and nasty piece of work. If this is a sign of what's to come Rowett can fck right off. No problem with a few nasty pieces of work that’s something we’ve been sadly lacking this season, note the outcome. There's nasty and then there's this horrible specimen. Not for me thank you.
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Post by mrred on May 28, 2018 7:19:37 GMT
We've never sunk so low that we need the services of this prick surely? Aside from everything else, he's wank.
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Post by stokeloyal on May 28, 2018 7:26:51 GMT
Judge him on his footballing ability...bunch of snowflakes getting upset because he has different views compared to your own. I thought it was the leftist millennials who where supposed to act like that?
Football wise he's mediocre at best and we can do better.
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Post by stokiebis on May 28, 2018 7:36:41 GMT
Judge him on his footballing ability...bunch of snowflakes getting upset because he has different views compared to your own. I thought it was the leftist millennials who where supposed to act like that? Football wise he's mediocre at best and we can do better. Not snowflakes u fool alot of veterans support this club n served the queen n that aside he's wank
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Post by Do it for dobing on May 28, 2018 7:38:17 GMT
No problem holding strong views but given that he is plying his trade in a country where he feels ill at ease,it would be better to be more discreet
He is inviting trouble and ill feeling rather than getting on with life as a footballer.
Certainly he is not talented enough to risk the bad feeling that will come about with this signing as we have many supporters who are proud of their heritage and also those who have served in the forces both now and in the past
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Post by superheroantonius on May 28, 2018 9:05:42 GMT
Average footballer Ferocious competitor
I would welcome him here And I will be happy to see the back of the wimmer imbulla berahino Jesse mob
The bottom line ...it's time for stoke City to man up
Yes vydra is a better player and I would much rather vydra and James McClean than James McClean
But we have to man up
It's not an option , we have to man up
It's time to get in some real tough nuts and some lads who can play
It's called balance and if you try and play without it , you end up having the season , we have just had
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Post by foster on May 28, 2018 9:09:04 GMT
Average footballer Ferocious competitor I would welcome him here And I will be happy to see the back of the wimmer imbulla berahino Jesse mob The bottom line ...it's time for stoke City to man up Yes vydra is a better player and I would much rather vydra and James McClean than James McClean But we have to man up It's not an option , we have to man up It's time to get in some real tough nuts and some lads who can play It's called balance and if you try and play without it , you end up having the season , we have just had Just reading between the lines, but are you of the opinion that we need to man up?
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Post by superheroantonius on May 28, 2018 9:14:16 GMT
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Post by burberrybassist on May 28, 2018 9:39:10 GMT
We need some fighters in the squad. It's so glaringly obvious that we lost so much from the dressing room and club after loosing the likes of Whelon, Walters and Huth. McClean looks like he's going to fit this bill. OK he won't be universally loved by us like the previous 3 I mention, and that's putting it mildly. But he is a scrapper, and the type of player who would fight for us until the final whistle of every game.
If this move happens then I completely see the logic behind it, so long as we back it up by looking at more creative scoring players like Vydra etc then I think it'll be a good move and he may surprise a few fans.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on May 28, 2018 9:41:12 GMT
Judge him on his footballing ability...bunch of snowflakes getting upset because he has different views compared to your own. I thought it was the leftist millennials who where supposed to act like that? Football wise he's mediocre at best and we can do better. Not snowflakes u fool alot of veterans support this club n served the queen n that aside he's wank It's perfectly possible to respect the armed forces for their services to the country and condemn what happened on Bloody Sunday. Only picking players who are prepared to back the actions of a state regardless of the morality of what it has done will just leave us with a bunch of mindless drongos. I respect McClean for standing up for his principles and not just knuckling under to the crowd. However in footballing terms we could do a lot better.
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Post by skip on May 28, 2018 10:09:23 GMT
McClean is shit, thick as shit, and a dirty shit. We haven't a clue if we're signing this kind of footballer. Why is he as thick as shit? Haven't a clue about his footballing smarts but given his profession isn't renown for rewarding critical-reflective qualities, what makes him so thick compared to others?
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Post by skip on May 28, 2018 10:10:46 GMT
Thanks, but seriously, in this day and age, a player getting slagged off because of his heritage. Really? It's not a good look is it. Realistically people get slagged off with reference to their heritage millions of times a day. PC policemen like yourself like to jump all over it like its the crime of the century if it refers to race, colour, religion, gender, sexual orientation. Its complete overkill, it no more says I have a deep seated hatred of Irishmen than calling someone a Brummie cunt means I have a deep seated hatred of people from Birmingham. The law has seldom been used so officiously to prosecute racially aggravated offences. You'd be far more likely to face a public order charge for public obscenity, quite rightly IMO. Save your racism for real cases of racial hatred or descrimination throwing it around like confetti at a wedding simply devalues the worthy cause of equality. How do you work that out?
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 28, 2018 10:13:03 GMT
Lord Saville concludes that the soldiers of the support company who went into the Bogside did so as a result of an order which should not have been given by their commander.
He finds that, on balance, the first shot in the vicinity of the march was fired by the British Army.
He finds that none of the casualties shot by the soldiers of support company was armed with a firearm.
He finds that there was some firing by Republican paramilitaries but none of this firing provided any justification for the shooting of civilian casualties.
And he finds that, in no case, was any warning given by soldiers before opening fire.
He also finds that the support company reacted by losing their self-control, forgetting or ignoring their instructions and training and with a serious and widespread loss of fire discipline.
He finds that despite the contrary evidence given by the soldiers, none of them fired in response to attacks or threatened attacks by nail or petrol bombers.
And he finds that many of the soldiers - and I quote knowingly - put forward false accounts to seek to justify their firing. How easy for his Lordship with his nice cosy life of privilidge. Not really interested what Lord Saville concludes. The terrorists were amongst them, they knew full well who they were and that they had firearms, petrol bombs and pipe bombs stockpiled for their intentions. Knowing all that inocents would remove themselves. They are no different to the muslims who allow Isis to operate amongst them and provide them with cover because you can't destroy them without civilian casualties they're not innocent just because they aren't armed. What a pile of pig ignorant fucking bollocks.
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Post by alster on May 28, 2018 10:16:56 GMT
How easy for his Lordship with his nice cosy life of privilidge. Not really interested what Lord Saville concludes. The terrorists were amongst them, they knew full well who they were and that they had firearms, petrol bombs and pipe bombs stockpiled for their intentions. Knowing all that inocents would remove themselves. They are no different to the muslims who allow Isis to operate amongst them and provide them with cover because you can't destroy them without civilian casualties they're not innocent just because they aren't armed. What a pile of pig ignorant fucking bollocks. Oh do fuck off drama queen.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 28, 2018 10:25:37 GMT
What a pile of pig ignorant fucking bollocks. Oh do fuck off drama queen. It's not really being a drama queen is it. You saying that the victims of Bloody Sunday were 'asking for it' is just about the filthiest thing I've ever seen on here, how you haven't been banned I'll never know but quite what the rules are on that is anyone's guess!
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Post by alster on May 28, 2018 10:34:28 GMT
Oh do fuck off drama queen. It's not really being a drama queen is it. You saying that the victims of Bloody Sunday were 'asking for it' is just about the filthiest thing I've ever seen on here, how you haven't been banned I'll never know but quite what the rules are on that is anyone's guess! If I get banned for arousing faux outrage in fucking drama queens like you so be it. Civilians who allow terrorists to operate amongst them are collateral damage I'm afraid.
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Post by RAF on May 28, 2018 10:34:37 GMT
Oh do fuck off drama queen. It's not really being a drama queen is it. You saying that the victims of Bloody Sunday were 'asking for it' is just about the filthiest thing I've ever seen on here, how you haven't been banned I'll never know but quite what the rules are on that is anyone's guess! Maybe someone should ask Bono for his impartial opinion? :) H
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Post by oggyoggy on May 28, 2018 10:39:00 GMT
People objecting to signing a player due to his political views are ridiculous, unless he was the supporter of something illegal of course. The Coates family were remain supporters in the EU referendum and are labour supporters (certainly Peter at least). Would you also support a transfer policy opposed to signing anyone who may have vote leave or tory before? There's no real difference to not signing McClean because of his politics.
Football and politics don't mix well and nobody should have a poppy on their football shirt as there are thousands of other equally worthy causes not openly supported by football clubs and to single out one is wrong.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 28, 2018 10:41:54 GMT
It's not really being a drama queen is it. You saying that the victims of Bloody Sunday were 'asking for it' is just about the filthiest thing I've ever seen on here, how you haven't been banned I'll never know but quite what the rules are on that is anyone's guess! Maybe someone should ask Bono for his impartial opinion? H What? About banning Alster?
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 28, 2018 10:51:04 GMT
It's not really being a drama queen is it. You saying that the victims of Bloody Sunday were 'asking for it' is just about the filthiest thing I've ever seen on here, how you haven't been banned I'll never know but quite what the rules are on that is anyone's guess! If I get banned for arousing faux outrage in fucking drama queens like you so be it. Civilians who allow terrorists to operate amongst them are collateral damage I'm afraid. Facts are not exactly a strong point of yours are they.
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Post by RAF on May 28, 2018 10:51:22 GMT
Maybe someone should ask Bono for his impartial opinion? H What? About banning Alster? Fuck it why not? He's got a fucking opinion on almost everything else that either doesn't concern him or that he uses to make him some kind of international peacekeeper the pious cunt! Apart from singing "Well tonight thank god it's them instead of you" Bono not Alster btw H
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 28, 2018 10:52:51 GMT
It's not really being a drama queen is it. You saying that the victims of Bloody Sunday were 'asking for it' is just about the filthiest thing I've ever seen on here, how you haven't been banned I'll never know but quite what the rules are on that is anyone's guess! If I get banned for arousing faux outrage in fucking drama queens like you so be it. Civilians who allow terrorists to operate amongst them are collateral damage I'm afraid. But what if those civilians are doing it against their will and in fear of their lives (or their families)?
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 28, 2018 10:54:13 GMT
What? About banning Alster? Fuck it why not? He's got a fucking opinion on almost everything else that either doesn't concern him or that he uses to make him some kind of international peacekeeper the pious cunt! Bono not Alster btw H I'm glad you clarified that
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