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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on May 17, 2018 11:09:06 GMT
A little bit of sick just came into my mouth, do they honestly believe we believe this bollocks.
two weeks ago the ownwer tells us we need a massive overhaul, now we are drip feeding info on how brilliant everyone is at the club.
all PC needs to do now is start tweeting shit everyday and transition in to Smurf will be complete.
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Post by Davef on May 17, 2018 11:10:30 GMT
I thought it was pretty common knowledge that Moritz Bauer's medical was undertaken on the morning of the Coventry match, when Mark Hughes was the manager. On top of that, Eddie N. claimed that Bauer had been spotted by Mark Bowen.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 17, 2018 11:12:39 GMT
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Post by chigstoke on May 17, 2018 11:13:08 GMT
So he's basically just a telemarketer gone extreme?
"But Sir wait, I can offer Stoke City to your client for one INCREDIBLE DEAL AND FIVE MARGARITA PIZZAS"
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 11:13:34 GMT
I thought it was pretty common knowledge that Moritz Bauer's medical was undertaken on the morning of the Coventry match, when Mark Hughes was the manager. On top of that, Eddie N. claimed that Bauer had been spotted by Mark Bowen. Indeed Dave. It's not the only fabrication in that article either. If that puff-piece was meant to clarify what Cartwright's role is at the club it failed, miserably. I'm none the wiser after reading it twice.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on May 17, 2018 11:13:35 GMT
Expect the same sycophantic crap on Lambert soon NO ONE AT THIS BLOODY CLUB will stand up and be counted Not everything is the previuso managers fault What a rotting core of a club we have become Spot on Suffolk. Why after the awful recruitment in recent times is no one accountable? Absolutely disgusting. Its so annoying, if nothings done we're not going to change. ''Do what you've always done, and get what you've always got''
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Post by Gods on May 17, 2018 11:13:35 GMT
So he does exactly what I have said he does 100 times on here, which is to sort out the contracts, no more than that, and he may well be very good at it I don't know.
I think it would help him a lot if he wasn't called 'Technical Director' though which suggests something much grander and is the reason he is taking some of the flak for poor player selection.
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Post by Absolution on May 17, 2018 11:13:43 GMT
I thought it was pretty common knowledge that Moritz Bauer's medical was undertaken on the morning of the Coventry match, when Mark Hughes was the manager. On top of that, Eddie N. claimed that Bauer had been spotted by Mark Bowen. I wondered what 'taking responsibility for' meant in the context of the Bauer signing. Ndiaye was also linked on the Oatcake before Hughes was sacked.
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Post by drfishy on May 17, 2018 11:13:52 GMT
Initially I couldn't see the article because it was blocked. Now I have seen it I wish I hadn't! So, all Cartwright did was ask agents if somebody would like to go for Stoke and how much. And then kept the computer database updated. Does he really get paid for that!!Then of course when they were successful he is all over it!! Sorry that article was the most disgusting thing I've read in ages! CARTWRIGHT OUT!!
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Post by TexasPotter on May 17, 2018 11:13:57 GMT
What kind of pr shit is this? Get his ass gone.
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Post by canadianmoose on May 17, 2018 11:15:12 GMT
This “article” reads exactly as what it is. An advert sanctioned by the club because “nobody understands” and poor old Mark is being unfairly criticized. It’s shocking that this is being passed off as a Spinks article because I’m guessing 80% of it was written by the clubs own PR department.
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Post by chigstoke on May 17, 2018 11:15:24 GMT
So he does exactly what I have said he does 100 times on here, which is to sort out the contracts, no more than that, and he may well be very good at it I don't know. I think it would help him a lot if he wasn't called 'Technical Director' though which suggests something much grander and is the reason he is taking some of the flak for poor player selection. Then they should rename his job 'Agent and Contract Bloke'
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Post by owdestokie2 on May 17, 2018 11:15:57 GMT
From the Link Above
In my role as Technical Director at Stoke City, an average day will start with an informal chat with the manager, discuss how the players have performed, how they are training, the upcoming game for example, then plenty of phone calls from agents throughout the day. I will also have several chats with our CEO about the plans for the future and what is needed to be done now in order to get a head start for the next transfer window.
I will meet with my team of scouts to discuss various positions and targets and whilst they are out travelling every weekend and during the week watching games, I am more specific and only go to watch games where there are potential 1st team players to make decisions on. There is a lot of information gathering and due diligence to keep me nice and busy!
Basically the biggest part of my job is the identifying and then the buying and selling any of the players that come into Stoke City from age 12 through to the first team.
It does make you wonder if the Spinks article is no more than an orchestrated PR job on behalf the club.
Well spotted the OP
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Post by madnellie on May 17, 2018 11:17:12 GMT
He does even less that I thought he did, yet still seems to be awful at it. Embarrassing.
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Post by maliciousdamage on May 17, 2018 11:18:40 GMT
I have never read such a complete crock of shite in all my life, this bloke must be being paid thousands upon thousands each year yet by the looks of this he nor anyone else fully understands what he actually does/achieves if anything at all, its so up its own arse I'd say it was 'given' to Spinks by the club to publish.
This guy is NOT a Director of Football more it seems like a charlatan.
IO love how they make out he spotted Badou, Bauer etc in what seems like only a week when we had no manager and rolled these deals up in a matter of hours, no way these players must have been on the radar before and if not it illustrates that the manager 'doesn't have the final word' on all players like they keep saying as basically he's saying the club was in trouble we needed players so I got Badou and Baur
Th silence from this club is DEAFENING and then this tripe is sent out treating us like imbeciles, honestly it makes my blood boil.
Oi! Coates 20k plus fans can't all be wrong
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Post by musik on May 17, 2018 11:19:39 GMT
And this one was supposed to clarify things?
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 11:20:59 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 17, 2018 11:21:14 GMT
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Post by alster on May 17, 2018 11:21:19 GMT
I don’t understand all the vitriol personally. Ultimately the buck stops with the manager. Was Cartwright supposed to tell Hughes he couldn’t have Berahinio or Wimmer even though the financials worked and they were Hughes’s top targets? Imagine if they then went on to br top signings for a rival, he would have been slated on here. In that case he’s on a hiding to nothing either way. I don’t know the ins and outs of the different job roles though seemingly plenty on here do know the finer details. If the club back him and think he’s doing a good job then I’m prepared to accept that as they are likely to be more knowledgeable on the subject than me. Hmm if Wimmer was the top target for Centre Half I wonder why we had negotiations with Harry Maguire weeks before him then. Just working our way up the list from the bottom?
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Post by madnellie on May 17, 2018 11:22:03 GMT
So he does exactly what I have said he does 100 times on here, which is to sort out the contracts, no more than that, and he may well be very good at it I don't know. I think it would help him a lot if he wasn't called 'Technical Director' though which suggests something much grander and is the reason he is taking some of the flak for poor player selection. Then they should rename his job 'Agent and Contract Bloke' Contract Undertakings and Nonsensical Talking Bloke, more like
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Post by robrigo on May 17, 2018 11:24:38 GMT
Why cant we just sort our shit out professionally?
Just get on with it Stoke. Its an absolute spunkbubble of shite at the moment.
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Post by ashleyscfc on May 17, 2018 11:25:09 GMT
Let's get one thing straight. Carto is in charge of recruitment. Period. The scouts, contracts, databases. He oversees it all. Im embarrassed for the club for this shameless PR. Do they think we're stupid? Why will nobody make serious change? This sort of tactic will do nothing but harm the relationship with fans. The press office need to put the brakes on garbage like this. Not only that it does nothing but show Cartwright is completely at fault! The article says: "No club bids for a player before first discovering if he wants to come and that is the kind of groundwork laid by people in the role of recruitment director. His role is also to constantly update his database on players so that a certain amount of background information, albeit largely statistical, is to hand if a player appears on Stoke’s radar." So Jese wanted to be here? Did his statistical database show how few games berahino and wimmer had played? He is in charge of recruitment overall, he manages a 'database', he liases with players, he brings in the scouts who report to him. If the scouts, the process or the database arent up to it. It's on cartwright. He presents options to the manager and if its clear mark hughes wasnt pulling his weight why wasnt he sacked? It has failed The scouts he has employed are not good enough. He has not done enough homework and should be informing the board of good or bad deals based on cost/ability/age etc. He has failed. He should be sacked ASAP Compare that to this: www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/scouting-system-that-reveals-david-moyes-mind-8756011.htmlIt's why moyes needs to come and get these idiots in order. They stood by whilst admittedly let Hughes take us as a laughing stock and are now doing their damndest to protect one of their own. Peter/John youve clearly lost control of the ship.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on May 17, 2018 11:25:54 GMT
I have never read such a complete crock of shite in all my life, this bloke must be being paid thousands upon thousands each year yet by the looks of this he nor anyone else fully understands what he actually does/achieves if anything at all, its so up its own arse I'd say it was 'given' to Spinks by the club to publish. This guy is NOT a Director of Football more it seems like a charlatan. IO love how they make out he spotted Badou, Bauer etc in what seems like only a week when we had no manager and rolled these deals up in a matter of hours, no way these players must have been on the radar before and if not it illustrates that the manager 'doesn't have the final word' on all players like they keep saying as basically he's saying the club was in trouble we needed players so I got Badou and Baur Th silence from this club is DEAFENING and then this tripe is sent out treating us like imbeciles, honestly it makes my blood boil. Oi! Coates 20k plus fans can't all be wrong Its utter shite isnt it. Hope its not from the club's PR team, but pretty sure it is. They'll be more shite like this in the coming weeks in the build up to the new season, following no board level changes and probably the same manger. Get the PR machine rolling Mr Coates/s you're going to need a top notch PR team if you're going to brainwash 30k + into thinking nothing needs to change!
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Post by webbyscfc on May 17, 2018 11:26:33 GMT
So reading that article then.........he has failed at his job!!! Even more so then I first thought. He has to be booted out of the club
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 17, 2018 11:28:52 GMT
The board really are a fucking disgrace
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Post by crapslinger on May 17, 2018 11:31:58 GMT
Another massive own goal from the PR department, they really could fcuk up a good c**t, we need rid of these fraudsters now.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 11:33:27 GMT
I've seen a lot over the years but I'm genuinely flabbergasted at that article.
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Post by dadofsam on May 17, 2018 11:34:12 GMT
I feel insulted by that, do the club really expect anyone to be taken in by that crock and as for the Sentinel you should have taken one look and told the club to fook right off.
In a period novel stylee I call you out Cartwright - answer 5 unseen questions and Sentinel, you agree to publish both q and a.
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Post by lordb on May 17, 2018 11:38:38 GMT
There's nothing wrong with the process. Cartwright is godlike. Wimmer Berahino Jese Imbula Haugard Choupo How many of those were targeted by him? Simply don't know.However would be confident that Berahino was Hughes target
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Post by musik on May 17, 2018 11:39:58 GMT
Interesting reading, thanks! I'm really impressed with all three of them. When Shaqiri signed I wondered, how did that happen? Imbula was good in his first game here or so, but then something dramatic happened. What? He lost all his self confidence. Told not to go forward as much? Butland - splendid! But Cartright must been involved in other signings as well - as that seems to be his job. Also the bad ones.
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