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Post by sheikhmomo on May 7, 2018 10:07:16 GMT
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Post by Clem Fandango on May 7, 2018 10:13:46 GMT
To be honest I've said a few times that the last couple of seasons have left me really bored. Next season might actually make me like football again. That article does have some truths in it that said we've enjoyed some fantastic times in this league over the last 10 years and beating Preston at home really isnt the same as beating Man Utd or Arsenal.
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Post by luke45 on May 7, 2018 10:18:31 GMT
That's a great read. The last 12-18 months have been very hard to endure and after Swansea is out of the way at the weekend I'm actually looking forward to not having to watch Stoke for a few months and coming back with recharged batteries on August 4th! It will be a novelty for a generation of our supporters and hopefully the home attendances will still hold up pretty well in the region of 20-25K and we'll take decent numbers away with some new grounds for people as well. We need to be competitive and start winning football matches again, the decisions made over the next few months will be entirely dependent on that.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2018 10:22:02 GMT
Good article.
"50 points, Nige" ??
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Post by woodstein on May 7, 2018 10:22:38 GMT
Fair point but you can't exactly embrace it. I mean who cuddles crap?!
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Post by stokemark on May 7, 2018 10:22:50 GMT
That's a great read. The last 12-18 months have been very hard to endure and after Swansea is out of the way at the weekend I'm actually looking forward to not having to watch Stoke for a few months and coming back with recharged batteries on August 4th! It will be a novelty for a generation of our supporters and hopefully the home attendances will still hold up pretty well in the region of 20-25K and we'll take decent numbers away with some new grounds for people as well. We need to be competitive and start winning football matches again, the decisions made over the new few months will be entirely dependent on that. Correct I don't fear the Championship and will 'embrace it' in so much that we still have a football match to go to but we need to believe in the man at the helm and for me unless we get in the right manager from the get go we will struggle far more to adjust than Middlesbrough have this season |
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on May 7, 2018 10:22:57 GMT
Sorry only one place to be & thats the premier league ask any true fan. They say otherwise & they are fooling themselves. Not looking forward to the Championship as i remember how hard it is to get out of it.(unless your Sunderland of course.)
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Post by mrcoke on May 7, 2018 10:34:24 GMT
A good article, although I think the table misses the point. We aren't fretting, we're annoyed that the slide to relegation has been permitted by a series of errors and inaction by the owners and management team.
The Boro writer compares us with Middlesbrough, but Middlesbrough had a sound defence last season, but an ability to create and score goals. Stoke have had a problem scoring goals all the time we have been in the Prem. which dried up almost completely by the last half season. The defence started leaking large numbers of goals towards the end of the 2015/16 season and has not stopped and not been corrected.
We totally deserve to be relegated; over 38 games Stoke have been the worst team in the Prem. I can't believe the numbers being quoted that Butland and Shaqiri are going to be sold for. Those commentators have not been watching the Butland and Shaqiri I have this season. They do occasionally do something brilliant, but they are flawed by misjudgements and in Shaqiri's case standing and watching instead of helping his team mates. It is possible of course that they could play a lot better in another team, like Arnautovic!
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Post by butler64 on May 7, 2018 11:13:31 GMT
Sorry only one place to be & thats the premier league ask any true fan. They say otherwise & they are fooling themselves. Not looking forward to the Championship as i remember how hard it is to get out of it.(unless your Sunderland of course.) Totally agree with this. I'm not looking forward to the Championship one bit. Surely, the aim of any team is to want to be in the top division. Why on earth anyone can say they are looking forward to being in the Championship is beyond me. I appreciate we all have different opinions but I just don't get it at all. Cheers GB |
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Post by staffsvilla on May 7, 2018 11:24:55 GMT
Sorry only one place to be & thats the premier league ask any true fan. They say otherwise & they are fooling themselves. Not looking forward to the Championship as i remember how hard it is to get out of it.(unless your Sunderland of course.) Totally agree with this. I'm not looking forward to the Championship one bit. Surely, the aim of any team is to want to be in the top division. Why on earth anyone can say they are looking forward to being in the Championship is beyond me. I appreciate we all have different opinions but I just don't get it at all. Cheers GB I think we found it very easy to embrace as we had been scuffling around the bottom for a number of years with shocking home form, to go down The Villa and actually think we've gonna win more than a few is great, we've had 2 seasons down now and the crowds have held up well away tickets even with some big away allocations have been like gold dust been some great away days but as the parachute payments go down we really need to get back up sooner rather than later, but after the despair wears off you'll all be up for it and you might be surprised how much enjoyment you will get, unless you only go to watch 'the stars' |
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Post by stokeny on May 7, 2018 12:26:02 GMT
if you think about it, the run in this year has been infinitely more "enjoyable" than the last two seasons. I honestly couldn't wait for the previous two to be over, so I could stop wasting two hours every weekend watching a half-arsed effort by a safe team with regular drubbings. I agree with the article, the Prem can be a real drag.
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Post by kustokie on May 7, 2018 12:28:05 GMT
To be honest I've said a few times that the last couple of seasons have left me really bored. Next season might actually make me like football again. That article does have some truths in it that said we've enjoyed some fantastic times in this league over the last 10 years and beating Preston at home really isnt the same as beating Man Utd or Arsenal. I wasn’t bored just boarder-line apoplectic. |
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Post by duckling on May 7, 2018 13:00:07 GMT
The writer assumes that relegated teams will do as well as Middlesbrough who won 22 games and are in the playoffs.
But what about the two teams that went down with Middlesbrough? Hull finished 18th, and Sunderland finished dead last.
I can definitely see that it would be more enjoyable to do well in the Championship than do poorly in the Premier League. There is the chance, however, that you'll do poorly in the Championship too, and surely that is worse than doing poorly in the Premier League.
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Post by StatesideStokie on May 7, 2018 13:16:43 GMT
Sorry only one place to be & thats the premier league ask any true fan. They say otherwise & they are fooling themselves. Not looking forward to the Championship as i remember how hard it is to get out of it.(unless your Sunderland of course.) I think you're missing the point entirely. For a club like ours, the best thing about the Premier League is the rush when you make it there, closely followed by the feeling of accomplishment when you survive that first season. I'm not saying I'm happy about us being relegated, because I'm not, but we now have a chance to recapture the euphoria of actually winning something. We're spent the last 8 years or so aspiring to be nothing more than mediocre, of celebrating consecutive mid-table finishes and buzzing off occasionally bloodying the nose of one of the big boys. Sure, we had a great cup run thrown in for good measure, but those can be achieved regardless of what division you play in. Next season bring the opportunity of actually achieving something again, of doing something memorable and recapturing that "high" that galvanizes a club, a city even. You only get that when you're on the outside looking in, and it can't be recaptured once you get there. Sure, there's a chance we could do a Sunderland. That's part and parcel of being a Stoke fan. It's not all rainbows and unicorns - save that for the glory hunters who are already pretending like the last ten years never happened and scouring Amazon for the new Man City shirt for next season. And enough with the condescending "ask any true fan" nonsense, and just enjoy the ride. |
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Post by mrteddysalad on May 7, 2018 13:22:43 GMT
I'll agree they've been boring to watch, but why should I embrace a terrible product fit for the championship when we were competitive and entertaining to watch 3 seasons ago in the premiership?
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Post by haway on May 7, 2018 13:29:31 GMT
Sorry only one place to be & thats the premier league ask any true fan. They say otherwise & they are fooling themselves. Not looking forward to the Championship as i remember how hard it is to get out of it.(unless your Sunderland of course.) We did get out of it. It was the wrong direction but you did not specify that! |
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Post by foster on May 7, 2018 13:39:27 GMT
Don't need to read that article to know what it's like. Aside from the promotion season, what happened before that is pretty much what can be expected.
I prefer the Prem but am excited by the prospect of a mass cull of wasters, the signing of talented players and a push for promotion next year.
I might even start watching MOTD again.
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Post by jebbstuart on May 7, 2018 13:53:21 GMT
Is an exciting division when your winning games and competing but can easily turn into a nightmare. We are in the championship whatever just got to see what happens I suppose. Not really looking forward to it but got to except it happened. Big question is if we start poorly like usual then games could turn toxic and we will end up fighting each Other!!
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Post by cooper67 on May 7, 2018 13:58:22 GMT
Sorry only one place to be & thats the premier league ask any true fan. Thank God I wasn't a true fan when we weren't in the PL. You numpty!! |
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Post by chamberlain on May 7, 2018 14:49:32 GMT
Sorry only one place to be & thats the premier league ask any true fan. They say otherwise & they are fooling themselves. Not looking forward to the Championship as i remember how hard it is to get out of it.(unless your Sunderland of course.) Only one place to be ask any true fan you say .Theres more to football than the premier league . Sure that’s where the riches are but if your not in the top eight it’s as boring as fuck |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2018 14:52:24 GMT
I don't care where we are, i just want us to seem like we have a plan to go forward and get better.
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Post by stokeson on May 7, 2018 15:08:32 GMT
Hes talking about true football fans not ard work lovers that Stoke seem to idolise.
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Post by Kewstokie on May 7, 2018 15:22:14 GMT
At least we'll be competing in a league where, on paper, we have a realistic chance of finishing in the top two or three, as opposed to making up the numbers in a league where realistically we could only compete for 7th.
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Post by stokeson on May 7, 2018 15:24:20 GMT
Yes so much better to be the big fish in the small pond..I give up...
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Post by scfcno1fan on May 7, 2018 15:28:06 GMT
If lambert fucks off then I will.
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Post by Godo on May 7, 2018 15:29:04 GMT
But will this lot beat "Millwall, Brentford or Bolton"???? Not sure I trust anybody at the club not to continue to fuck things up.....
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Post by fulagoals on May 7, 2018 15:45:50 GMT
At least we'll be competing in a league where, on paper, we have a realistic chance of finishing in the top two or three, as opposed to making up the numbers in a league where realistically we could only compete for 7th. Are you sure about? Our performances against Wolves, Bristol City and Hull over the last couple of years suggest not! |
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Post by chamberlain on May 7, 2018 15:54:55 GMT
Hes talking about true football fans not ard work lovers that Stoke seem to idolise. Stop talking shit mate, true football fans support their team through thick and thin . There’s no other definition that covers it . |
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Post by cooper67 on May 7, 2018 16:29:11 GMT
Hes talking about true football fans not ard work lovers that Stoke seem to idolise. Are you the numpties lad?? |
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Post by chamberlain on May 7, 2018 16:36:12 GMT
Hes talking about true football fans not ard work lovers that Stoke seem to idolise. Are you the numpties lad?? He’s a numpty alright 😁 |
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