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Post by Not_Nick_H on May 3, 2018 11:53:48 GMT
Is it just me, or is anyone else fed up with the media-Wolves promotion love-in/jizzfest already?
I mean it's not like anyone in the press mourned when Wolves were last relegated from the Prem is it? Was anyone as bothered by it as they would be for any other club? No.
Don't get me wrong - this isn't a "Wolves thing" despite them being a rival, but the whole "Oh they'll be a wonderful addition to the Prem" thing is p*ssing me off a bit.
It's bit like everyone in the street suddenly fawning over the new arrivals at number 25 - just because they've got loads of money and a flash new car. "Ooh we must invite them to the BBQ at the weekend! - they'll be a great asset to the neighbourhood!".
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 11:58:42 GMT
Dingle is as dingle does
You can polish a turd with as much money as you like but its always going to be a turd underneath
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Post by cooper67 on May 3, 2018 11:58:49 GMT
I haven't really seen much evidence of this Wolves arse licking anywhere-especially in the national media.
Perhaps you are just being paranoid?
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 12:04:27 GMT
Fear not. This is never far away with Wolves...  |
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Post by Ygor on May 3, 2018 12:11:14 GMT
It strikes me that Wolves may be about to enter a few golden years. Rich owners, a very promising manager with backroom staff that recognise and buy quality players and play pleasing football. What's not to like? I personally think they are going to do well in the Prem and will watch with interest to see how they fair. Compare their current set up to ours. They certainly look like they have ambition!  I have my tin hat on..... |
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Post by Not_Nick_H on May 3, 2018 12:13:25 GMT
I haven't really seen much evidence of this Wolves arse licking anywhere-especially in the national media. Perhaps you are just being paranoid? Nope. It's insufferable on Talk (Sky)Sport at any mention of them. Sky Sports (when I watch it) has been the same. 5-Live haven't been immune either. |
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Post by hstoke on May 3, 2018 12:13:33 GMT
Dingle is as dingle does You can polish a turd with as much money as you like but its always going to be a turd underneath GD funny as fuck that post |
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Post by palaceman42 on May 3, 2018 12:18:20 GMT
Much like the love in for plucky Bournemouth, who got promoted against the odds (having a billionaire owner who ignored FFP helped somewhat), I expect it to get worse over the summer and into next season, especially if they have a good start. Nothing to do with the rather dodgy ownership structure / involvement of the super-agent, but how it is great to have one of football's "old guard" back "where they belong".
Not looking forward to it in the slightest!
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Post by wolf61 on May 3, 2018 12:55:23 GMT
Much like the love in for plucky Bournemouth, who got promoted against the odds (having a billionaire owner who ignored FFP helped somewhat), I expect it to get worse over the summer and into next season, especially if they have a good start. Nothing to do with the rather dodgy ownership structure / involvement of the super-agent, but how it is great to have one of football's "old guard" back "where they belong". Not looking forward to it in the slightest! Hope this helps... Wolves cleared of any wrongdoing over links to agent Jorge Mendes By PA Sport 25/04/2018 at 17:37Updated 25/04/2018 at 19:46 0 Leeds were among the clubs who had questioned whether Wolves were playing fair in the transfer market. Wolves have been given the blessing of the English Football League to continue their relationship with high-profile agent Jorge Mendes. A number of Wolves’ Sky Bet Championship rivals, with Leeds owner Andrea Radrizzani at the forefront, expressed concern at the influence of Mendes at Molineux. The ‘super agent’ has no official title at Wolves but has a number of clients at the club, including boss Nuno Espirito Santo, £15million midfielder Ruben Neves, attacker Diogo Jota, who is on loan from Atletico Madrid, and £7million winger Ivan Cavaleiro. It led to worries Wolves were circumventing Financial Fair Play rules by not paying players the going rate but an EFL investigation has concluded the club have no case to answer. “The EFL has met with Wolverhampton Wanderers to ensure compliance with the requirements of its regulations,” the EFL said. “At that meeting, a request for information was made by the EFL and following a comprehensive review of the detail subsequently provided by the club, it has been determined that Mr Mendes holds no role at the club and, as such should not be categorised as a ‘relevant person’ as defined by league regulations. “On this basis there is no requirement for him to submit to the owners’ and directors’ test.” Wolves, who have clinched the Championship title, staunchly maintained their innocence throughout and welcomed the EFL’s stance following its enquiries. “After meeting with EFL representatives and providing further written detail, a comprehensive review has concluded with confirmation that the EFL is satisfied there has been no breach of its regulations,” said the club in a statement. “We have always maintained our clarity on both FA and EFL regulations, which have been complied with explicitly since the change of ownership at the club in July 2016. “We believe the release of these findings will bring to a conclusion any speculation surrounding the club’s operation and extinguish any concerns held by other clubs.” Mendes advised Fosun on the takeover of Wolves in 2016, shortly after the Chinese conglomerate bought a stake in his agency. Under Football Association rules, club owners are prohibited from holding an interest in agencies and agents are not allowed to have an influence on the running of a football club. An FA spokesperson said: “The FA has strict regulations in place for all football activities involving intermediaries. “We obtained confirmation from Wolves and all relevant parties, including Mr Mendes, regarding the sale of the club in 2016 and their ongoing compliance with the FA’s regulations on working with intermediaries. “The Premier League and the EFL primarily regulate matters of club ownership and will continue to do so through their owners’ and directors’ test.” |
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Post by midtempo on May 3, 2018 13:22:19 GMT
I worked with "The hide and seek Champions" fans from 1971 until 2007.
Every Wolves fan I know was there in the 3rd Div when the Bhatti Brothers were in charge with 4K gates, they must have fiddled the attendances. They also tend to forget that the Council bailed them out 1986 when they nearly went to the wall.
Never mind the deluded F***w*t* are going the charge the Premier league and easily finish in the top 6, no premier league survival fight for them.
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Post by santy on May 3, 2018 13:24:16 GMT
Much like the love in for plucky Bournemouth, who got promoted against the odds (having a billionaire owner who ignored FFP helped somewhat), I expect it to get worse over the summer and into next season, especially if they have a good start. Nothing to do with the rather dodgy ownership structure / involvement of the super-agent, but how it is great to have one of football's "old guard" back "where they belong". Not looking forward to it in the slightest! Hope this helps... Wolves cleared of any wrongdoing over links to agent Jorge Mendes By PA Sport 25/04/2018 at 17:37Updated 25/04/2018 at 19:46 0 Leeds were among the clubs who had questioned whether Wolves were playing fair in the transfer market. Wolves have been given the blessing of the English Football League to continue their relationship with high-profile agent Jorge Mendes. A number of Wolves’ Sky Bet Championship rivals, with Leeds owner Andrea Radrizzani at the forefront, expressed concern at the influence of Mendes at Molineux. The ‘super agent’ has no official title at Wolves but has a number of clients at the club, including boss Nuno Espirito Santo, £15million midfielder Ruben Neves, attacker Diogo Jota, who is on loan from Atletico Madrid, and £7million winger Ivan Cavaleiro. It led to worries Wolves were circumventing Financial Fair Play rules by not paying players the going rate but an EFL investigation has concluded the club have no case to answer. “The EFL has met with Wolverhampton Wanderers to ensure compliance with the requirements of its regulations,” the EFL said. “At that meeting, a request for information was made by the EFL and following a comprehensive review of the detail subsequently provided by the club, it has been determined that Mr Mendes holds no role at the club and, as such should not be categorised as a ‘relevant person’ as defined by league regulations. “On this basis there is no requirement for him to submit to the owners’ and directors’ test.” Wolves, who have clinched the Championship title, staunchly maintained their innocence throughout and welcomed the EFL’s stance following its enquiries. “After meeting with EFL representatives and providing further written detail, a comprehensive review has concluded with confirmation that the EFL is satisfied there has been no breach of its regulations,” said the club in a statement. “We have always maintained our clarity on both FA and EFL regulations, which have been complied with explicitly since the change of ownership at the club in July 2016. “We believe the release of these findings will bring to a conclusion any speculation surrounding the club’s operation and extinguish any concerns held by other clubs.” Mendes advised Fosun on the takeover of Wolves in 2016, shortly after the Chinese conglomerate bought a stake in his agency. Under Football Association rules, club owners are prohibited from holding an interest in agencies and agents are not allowed to have an influence on the running of a football club. An FA spokesperson said: “The FA has strict regulations in place for all football activities involving intermediaries. “We obtained confirmation from Wolves and all relevant parties, including Mr Mendes, regarding the sale of the club in 2016 and their ongoing compliance with the FA’s regulations on working with intermediaries. “The Premier League and the EFL primarily regulate matters of club ownership and will continue to do so through their owners’ and directors’ test.” Convicted rapist Owen Oyston is also fine as the owner of a football club as far as the football league are concerned. Convicted rapist. Not exactly a high bar is it. |
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Post by palaceman42 on May 3, 2018 13:33:53 GMT
Hope this helps... Wolves cleared of any wrongdoing over links to agent Jorge Mendes By PA Sport 25/04/2018 at 17:37Updated 25/04/2018 at 19:46 0 Leeds were among the clubs who had questioned whether Wolves were playing fair in the transfer market. Wolves have been given the blessing of the English Football League to continue their relationship with high-profile agent Jorge Mendes. A number of Wolves’ Sky Bet Championship rivals, with Leeds owner Andrea Radrizzani at the forefront, expressed concern at the influence of Mendes at Molineux. The ‘super agent’ has no official title at Wolves but has a number of clients at the club, including boss Nuno Espirito Santo, £15million midfielder Ruben Neves, attacker Diogo Jota, who is on loan from Atletico Madrid, and £7million winger Ivan Cavaleiro. It led to worries Wolves were circumventing Financial Fair Play rules by not paying players the going rate but an EFL investigation has concluded the club have no case to answer. “The EFL has met with Wolverhampton Wanderers to ensure compliance with the requirements of its regulations,” the EFL said. “At that meeting, a request for information was made by the EFL and following a comprehensive review of the detail subsequently provided by the club, it has been determined that Mr Mendes holds no role at the club and, as such should not be categorised as a ‘relevant person’ as defined by league regulations. “On this basis there is no requirement for him to submit to the owners’ and directors’ test.” Wolves, who have clinched the Championship title, staunchly maintained their innocence throughout and welcomed the EFL’s stance following its enquiries. “After meeting with EFL representatives and providing further written detail, a comprehensive review has concluded with confirmation that the EFL is satisfied there has been no breach of its regulations,” said the club in a statement. “We have always maintained our clarity on both FA and EFL regulations, which have been complied with explicitly since the change of ownership at the club in July 2016. “We believe the release of these findings will bring to a conclusion any speculation surrounding the club’s operation and extinguish any concerns held by other clubs.” Mendes advised Fosun on the takeover of Wolves in 2016, shortly after the Chinese conglomerate bought a stake in his agency. Under Football Association rules, club owners are prohibited from holding an interest in agencies and agents are not allowed to have an influence on the running of a football club. An FA spokesperson said: “The FA has strict regulations in place for all football activities involving intermediaries. “We obtained confirmation from Wolves and all relevant parties, including Mr Mendes, regarding the sale of the club in 2016 and their ongoing compliance with the FA’s regulations on working with intermediaries. “The Premier League and the EFL primarily regulate matters of club ownership and will continue to do so through their owners’ and directors’ test.” Convicted rapist Owen Oyston is also fine as the owner of a football club as far as the football league are concerned. Convicted rapist. Not exactly a high bar is it. Not the same level in terms of scummy actions, but Leeds also had a convicted fraudster in control for a few years - which in the environment they are operating probably makes him less of "fit and proper person". A better human being though, but still.
Whatever way you look at the ownership structure there, and regardless of the FA saying that it's fine, there's some transfers that have happened as a result of the structure that have given them an unfair advantage. Much like when the Pozzo's moved players around their three clubs to best benefit Watford. The FA may say it's alright, but it doesn't change the fact that it hasn't been a level playing field.
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Post by bathstoke on May 3, 2018 13:35:03 GMT
Chillax, They havnt kicked a ball yet. Nothing is guaranteed for wolves in the top flight, same as us...
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on May 3, 2018 13:42:12 GMT
Dunna worry, after one season in the Prem, their owners will say they must become a self-sufficient club!!! They'll be relegated in a couple of seasons!!!  |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on May 3, 2018 13:46:23 GMT
Have to say, not really seen much about it other than the usual. They're a bit different because of their ownership model and the fact they have some super young players, but it's nothing compared to the jizz fest that will ensue the moment Leeds United come back up.
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Post by wolf61 on May 3, 2018 14:16:19 GMT
I worked with "The hide and seek Champions" fans from 1971 until 2007. Every Wolves fan I know was there in the 3rd Div when the Bhatti Brothers were in charge with 4K gates, they must have fiddled the attendances. They also tend to forget that the Council bailed them out 1986 when they nearly went to the wall. Never mind the deluded F***w*t* are going the charge the Premier league and easily finish in the top 6, no premier league survival fight for them. The 4k you quote was when wolves fans were boycotting the club to get rid of the Batti Brothers, in the old 3rd Div....stoke average was 10,700 in the 1st once they had gone wolves average gate in 1988 was 9,855 in div 4......stokes was 9,607 in the 2nd div......was stoke boycotting their club to... |
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Post by rambler on May 3, 2018 14:36:14 GMT
Not being funny but they basically bought the league and definitely should fail ffp. Not exactly fair when you can get loans and preferential deals from Portugal because your owners have cash in many pockets, I hope (won’t happen) that they get destroyed next year and their owners go bankrupt Birmingham City style
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Post by modfather on May 3, 2018 15:44:33 GMT
I worked with "The hide and seek Champions" fans from 1971 until 2007. Every Wolves fan I know was there in the 3rd Div when the Bhatti Brothers were in charge with 4K gates, they must have fiddled the attendances. They also tend to forget that the Council bailed them out 1986 when they nearly went to the wall. Never mind the deluded F***w*t* are going the charge the Premier league and easily finish in the top 6, no premier league survival fight for them. The 4k you quote was when wolves fans were boycotting the club to get rid of the Batti Brothers, in the old 3rd Div....stoke average was 10,700 in the 1st once they had gone wolves average gate in 1988 was 9,855 in div 4......stokes was 9,607 in the 2nd div......was stoke boycotting their club to... Fuck knows but your grammar is shocking mate |
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Post by wolf61 on May 3, 2018 15:58:22 GMT
Not being funny but they basically bought the league and definitely should fail ffp. Not exactly fair when you can get loans and preferential deals from Portugal because your owners have cash in many pockets, I hope (won’t happen) that they get destroyed next year and their owners go bankrupt Birmingham City style wolves have bought the league...really..i dont think were not in the top 3 spends this year and look at the squads villa, Middlesbrough have. ffp.. not even close. All teams have loan players wheather its in England or from abroad. Deep pockets yes ill give you that one  Get destroyed next year...we will have to wait and see. Bankrupt..no chance. we have had this sort of comment all season...some wolves fans may be many....are adopting the Millwall chant no one likes us we dont care. |
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Post by wolf61 on May 3, 2018 16:01:47 GMT
The 4k you quote was when wolves fans were boycotting the club to get rid of the Batti Brothers, in the old 3rd Div....stoke average was 10,700 in the 1st once they had gone wolves average gate in 1988 was 9,855 in div 4......stokes was 9,607 in the 2nd div......was stoke boycotting their club to... Fuck knows but your grammar is shocking mate slightly dyslexic...but i dont let that stop me trying .... |
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Post by chamberlain on May 3, 2018 16:19:56 GMT
It says everything about Wolves fans that you hear nothing from them but as soon as they get promoted back to the top flight they are everywhere including this message board . As one poster says above the hide and seek champions .
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Post by wolf61 on May 3, 2018 16:30:12 GMT
It says everything about Wolves fans that you hear nothing from them but as soon as they get promoted back to the top flight they are everywhere including this message board . As one poster says above the hide and seek champions . I came on here to see what you lot had to say about jack...only replying to you lot having a go and getting most of it wrong.... As i have said before i hope you lot stay up.. |
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Post by lawrieleslie on May 3, 2018 16:33:41 GMT
As long as they cough up £35m for Butland I couldn’t care less.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on May 3, 2018 16:55:19 GMT
As long as they cough up £35m for Butland I couldn’t care less. To cheap & Butlands heading for a top 6 side i think thats nailed on. |
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Post by wolf61 on May 3, 2018 16:58:01 GMT
As long as they cough up £35m for Butland I couldn’t care less. To cheap & Butlands heading for a top 6 side i think thats nailed on. wolves it is then.....    |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 17:03:47 GMT
Don't think they'll find it as easy as everyone says and finish in top 6,but they sure are appearing to be making a big push and making loud noises.
Makes me sick to think of them up there whilst we're down there.
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Post by mickstupp on May 3, 2018 17:11:31 GMT
I worked with "The hide and seek Champions" fans from 1971 until 2007. Every Wolves fan I know was there in the 3rd Div when the Bhatti Brothers were in charge with 4K gates, they must have fiddled the attendances. They also tend to forget that the Council bailed them out 1986 when they nearly went to the wall. Never mind the deluded F***w*t* are going the charge the Premier league and easily finish in the top 6, no premier league survival fight for them. The 4k you quote was when wolves fans were boycotting the club to get rid of the Batti Brothers, in the old 3rd Div....stoke average was 10,700 in the 1st once they had gone wolves average gate in 1988 was 9,855 in div 4......stokes was 9,607 in the 2nd div......was stoke boycotting their club to... Not buying that. Wolves fans were staying away in the 80’s because the team was garbage and your stadium was a run down decaying hovel. The 10,700 average you referred to was our average in the 84/85 season when we were relegated from the top league with a record low number of points. Gates everywhere were shocking in those days don’t forget. We came up from the 3rd tier six years later under Macari with an average gate of 17,000, so playing unsuccessfully in a higher league doesn’t always give you bigger gates. For the record, in a similar way to Derby, I think Wolves have a slightly bigger support than Stoke due to you having the advantage of being a one club city unlike S-O-T. |
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Post by wolf61 on May 3, 2018 17:17:44 GMT
The 4k you quote was when wolves fans were boycotting the club to get rid of the Batti Brothers, in the old 3rd Div....stoke average was 10,700 in the 1st once they had gone wolves average gate in 1988 was 9,855 in div 4......stokes was 9,607 in the 2nd div......was stoke boycotting their club to... Not buying that. Wolves fans were staying away in the 80’s because the team was garbage and your stadium was a run down decaying hovel. The 10,700 average you referred to was our average in the 84/85 season when we were relegated from the top league with a record low number of points. Gates everywhere were shocking in those days don’t forget. We came up from the 3rd tier six years under Macari with an average gate of 17,000, so playing unsuccessfully in a higher league doesn’t always give you bigger gates. For the record, in a similar way to Derby, I think Wolves have a slightly bigger support than Stoke due to you having the advantage of being a one club city unlike S-O-T. |
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Post by CalgaryPotter on May 3, 2018 17:19:49 GMT
It'll be great to have them back in the top flight.........  Top half at a canter. |
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Post by wolf61 on May 3, 2018 17:29:08 GMT
Not buying that. Wolves fans were staying away in the 80’s because the team was garbage and your stadium was a run down decaying hovel. The 10,700 average you referred to was our average in the 84/85 season when we were relegated from the top league with a record low number of points. Gates everywhere were shocking in those days don’t forget. We came up from the 3rd tier six years under Macari with an average gate of 17,000, so playing unsuccessfully in a higher league doesn’t always give you bigger gates. For the record, in a similar way to Derby, I think Wolves have a slightly bigger support than Stoke due to you having the advantage of being a one club city unlike S-O-T. sorry you are wrong....i was one of many who stopped going to get rid of the Batties....we both lost fans due to going down..just that we had larger gates when we came up....you can try and rewrite history but the facts are the facts |
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