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Post by TrentValePotter96 on May 3, 2018 19:13:46 GMT
One of the best teams to have ever played in the championship... Maybe the arse-licking is justified?
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Post by Stokiedokie on May 3, 2018 19:49:08 GMT
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Post by mickstupp on May 3, 2018 20:19:00 GMT
Of course it will, in the same way as it has done for us, WBA, Derby, Nottingham Forest, Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday & United, Birmingham and countless other provincial clubs. Outside the top six or seven clubs the rest of us are on borrowed and will just keep swapping around as the also rans.
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Post by mickstupp on May 3, 2018 20:39:29 GMT
sorry you are wrong....i was one of many who stopped going to get rid of the Batties....we both lost fans due to going down..just that we had larger gates when we came up....you can try and rewrite history but the facts are the facts I don’t think I’ve said anything that isn’t true. If you say you personally stopped going to oust former owners then fair enough, but my recollection of 80’s football is one of decline, hooliganism, and general apathy. I don’t think many fans even knew (or gave a toss) who their clubs owners even were. I’ve said you have a bigger following than us, but it’s dead easy to cherry pick stats to back up a point of view.
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Post by lordb on May 3, 2018 20:50:09 GMT
I worked with "The hide and seek Champions" fans from 1971 until 2007. Every Wolves fan I know was there in the 3rd Div when the Bhatti Brothers were in charge with 4K gates, they must have fiddled the attendances. They also tend to forget that the Council bailed them out 1986 when they nearly went to the wall. Never mind the deluded F***w*t* are going the charge the Premier league and easily finish in the top 6, no premier league survival fight for them. 109% correct. When Hayward put his money in the 90's suddenly twenty thousand loyal Wolves appeared from nowhere,every single one of them full of shit. Big club Wolves my arse. Never understand why some fans dislike Albion, completely harmless. There is one big club in the Midlands that's Villa. Worked with Wolves fans in the past who insist they are a big club because they beat Honved in a friendly. Blues have a nasty section,as do we,but they don't overate their football club. Wolves make West Ham fans seem sensible. Going to get much worse for the next few years as they throw big money at it. Still patience is required it absolutely will go mega tits up when the money walks. They will be div four again one day,bank on it.
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Post by bathstoke on May 3, 2018 21:00:17 GMT
One of the best teams to have ever played in the championship... Maybe the arse-licking is justified? Sounds like Reading, I blame Kitson. Hughes Out!
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 21:03:27 GMT
At least there is no money laundering going on. Also Mr President as not been having a relationship with a porn star.
All good news really.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on May 3, 2018 21:03:42 GMT
I've not seen much about them, to be honest. There was a bigger wankfest over Brighton!
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 22:14:04 GMT
Not being funny but they basically bought the league and definitely should fail ffp. Not exactly fair when you can get loans and preferential deals from Portugal because your owners have cash in many pockets, I hope (won’t happen) that they get destroyed next year and their owners go bankrupt Birmingham City style wolves have bought the league...really..i dont think were not in the top 3 spends this year and look at the squads villa, Middlesbrough have. ffp.. not even close. All teams have loan players wheather its in England or from abroad. Deep pockets yes ill give you that one Get destroyed next year...we will have to wait and see. Bankrupt..no chance. we have had this sort of comment all season...some wolves fans may be many....are adopting the Millwall chant no one likes us we dont care. Hmmm..... 🤔 Think the more appropriate chant for you lot is no one knows you no one cares
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Post by BristolMick on May 3, 2018 22:26:00 GMT
Much like the love in for plucky Bournemouth, who got promoted against the odds (having a billionaire owner who ignored FFP helped somewhat), I expect it to get worse over the summer and into next season, especially if they have a good start. Nothing to do with the rather dodgy ownership structure / involvement of the super-agent, but how it is great to have one of football's "old guard" back "where they belong". Not looking forward to it in the slightest! Hope this helps... Wolves cleared of any wrongdoing over links to agent Jorge Mendes By PA Sport 25/04/2018 at 17:37Updated 25/04/2018 at 19:46 0 Leeds were among the clubs who had questioned whether Wolves were playing fair in the transfer market. Wolves have been given the blessing of the English Football League to continue their relationship with high-profile agent Jorge Mendes. A number of Wolves’ Sky Bet Championship rivals, with Leeds owner Andrea Radrizzani at the forefront, expressed concern at the influence of Mendes at Molineux. The ‘super agent’ has no official title at Wolves but has a number of clients at the club, including boss Nuno Espirito Santo, £15million midfielder Ruben Neves, attacker Diogo Jota, who is on loan from Atletico Madrid, and £7million winger Ivan Cavaleiro. It led to worries Wolves were circumventing Financial Fair Play rules by not paying players the going rate but an EFL investigation has concluded the club have no case to answer. “The EFL has met with Wolverhampton Wanderers to ensure compliance with the requirements of its regulations,” the EFL said. “At that meeting, a request for information was made by the EFL and following a comprehensive review of the detail subsequently provided by the club, it has been determined that Mr Mendes holds no role at the club and, as such should not be categorised as a ‘relevant person’ as defined by league regulations. “On this basis there is no requirement for him to submit to the owners’ and directors’ test.” Wolves, who have clinched the Championship title, staunchly maintained their innocence throughout and welcomed the EFL’s stance following its enquiries. “After meeting with EFL representatives and providing further written detail, a comprehensive review has concluded with confirmation that the EFL is satisfied there has been no breach of its regulations,” said the club in a statement. “We have always maintained our clarity on both FA and EFL regulations, which have been complied with explicitly since the change of ownership at the club in July 2016. “We believe the release of these findings will bring to a conclusion any speculation surrounding the club’s operation and extinguish any concerns held by other clubs.” Mendes advised Fosun on the takeover of Wolves in 2016, shortly after the Chinese conglomerate bought a stake in his agency. Under Football Association rules, club owners are prohibited from holding an interest in agencies and agents are not allowed to have an influence on the running of a football club. An FA spokesperson said: “The FA has strict regulations in place for all football activities involving intermediaries. “We obtained confirmation from Wolves and all relevant parties, including Mr Mendes, regarding the sale of the club in 2016 and their ongoing compliance with the FA’s regulations on working with intermediaries. “The Premier League and the EFL primarily regulate matters of club ownership and will continue to do so through their owners’ and directors’ test.” Good luck to you fella. We are all just make weights to the elite and are only supposed to make it look like they are winning something meaningful when in reality it’s a six team league. We are old news and can therefore disappear into the ether, you are new news and so you are getting built up but the Premier League elite and those that run it don’t give a fuck about you and they don’t give a fuck about us. Hope you stay there 10 years like we did, if you want to, and if you do I’m sure you’ll be as fucked off with the corrupt charade as we are. BM
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Post by wolf61 on May 3, 2018 22:39:29 GMT
sorry you are wrong....i was one of many who stopped going to get rid of the Batties....we both lost fans due to going down..just that we had larger gates when we came up....you can try and rewrite history but the facts are the facts I don’t think I’ve said anything that isn’t true. If you say you personally stopped going to oust former owners then fair enough, but my recollection of 80’s football is one of decline, hooliganism, and general apathy. I don’t think many fans even knew (or gave a toss) who their clubs owners even were. I’ve said you have a bigger following than us, but it’s dead easy to cherry pick stats to back up a point of view. i was referring to the part were you said wolves fans stayed away in the 80s because the team was garbage and your stadium was run down... that is why i said you were wrong.....it was because of the Batties, ie the 4k gate in the season we got relegated from the 3rd to the 4th...but no one mentions the 15k we had at the start of the season.. after the Batties had gone the gates double in the old 4th div, same ground.. the Gallagher brothers took over and with asda cleard the debt in 1986...it wasn't untill1990 sir Jack brought the club and helped rebuild the stadium
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Post by wolf61 on May 3, 2018 22:43:49 GMT
Hope this helps... Wolves cleared of any wrongdoing over links to agent Jorge Mendes By PA Sport 25/04/2018 at 17:37Updated 25/04/2018 at 19:46 0 Leeds were among the clubs who had questioned whether Wolves were playing fair in the transfer market. Wolves have been given the blessing of the English Football League to continue their relationship with high-profile agent Jorge Mendes. A number of Wolves’ Sky Bet Championship rivals, with Leeds owner Andrea Radrizzani at the forefront, expressed concern at the influence of Mendes at Molineux. The ‘super agent’ has no official title at Wolves but has a number of clients at the club, including boss Nuno Espirito Santo, £15million midfielder Ruben Neves, attacker Diogo Jota, who is on loan from Atletico Madrid, and £7million winger Ivan Cavaleiro. It led to worries Wolves were circumventing Financial Fair Play rules by not paying players the going rate but an EFL investigation has concluded the club have no case to answer. “The EFL has met with Wolverhampton Wanderers to ensure compliance with the requirements of its regulations,” the EFL said. “At that meeting, a request for information was made by the EFL and following a comprehensive review of the detail subsequently provided by the club, it has been determined that Mr Mendes holds no role at the club and, as such should not be categorised as a ‘relevant person’ as defined by league regulations. “On this basis there is no requirement for him to submit to the owners’ and directors’ test.” Wolves, who have clinched the Championship title, staunchly maintained their innocence throughout and welcomed the EFL’s stance following its enquiries. “After meeting with EFL representatives and providing further written detail, a comprehensive review has concluded with confirmation that the EFL is satisfied there has been no breach of its regulations,” said the club in a statement. “We have always maintained our clarity on both FA and EFL regulations, which have been complied with explicitly since the change of ownership at the club in July 2016. “We believe the release of these findings will bring to a conclusion any speculation surrounding the club’s operation and extinguish any concerns held by other clubs.” Mendes advised Fosun on the takeover of Wolves in 2016, shortly after the Chinese conglomerate bought a stake in his agency. Under Football Association rules, club owners are prohibited from holding an interest in agencies and agents are not allowed to have an influence on the running of a football club. An FA spokesperson said: “The FA has strict regulations in place for all football activities involving intermediaries. “We obtained confirmation from Wolves and all relevant parties, including Mr Mendes, regarding the sale of the club in 2016 and their ongoing compliance with the FA’s regulations on working with intermediaries. “The Premier League and the EFL primarily regulate matters of club ownership and will continue to do so through their owners’ and directors’ test.” Good luck to you fella. We are all just make weights to the elite and are only supposed to make it look like they are winning something meaningful when in reality it’s a six team league. We are old news and can therefore disappear into the ether, you are new news and so you are getting built up but the Premier League elite and those that run it don’t give a fuck about you and they don’t give a fuck about us. Hope you stay there 10 years like we did, if you want to, and if you do I’m sure you’ll be as fucked off with the corrupt charade as we are. BM Cheers....great post....like i have already said i hope you lot stop up
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Post by djduncanjames on May 4, 2018 3:17:47 GMT
Remember that night match when Ethers got done, I do, happened to be there alone in the Boothen... My father warned me about them.. Fair play to Mick after that though
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 4, 2018 6:19:51 GMT
One thing is for sure,they,(the media) never arse licked us. Don't know why,unless it was the way we played under Pulis,but it carried on after he left,they never seemed to like us from day one up until now.
If the above is true,how come they seemed to like Pulis at Palace and West Brom,but disliked Stoke City?
They even have a love for Bournmouth who have cheated their way through the Premier league,don't get me started on why the media fawn over the most boring of sides,Burnley.
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Post by djduncanjames on May 4, 2018 6:25:03 GMT
One thing is for sure,they,(the media) never arse licked us. Don't know why,unless it was the way we played under Pulis,but it carried on after he left,they never seemed to like us from day one up until now. If the above is true,how come they seemed to like Pulis at Palace and West Brom,but disliked Stoke City? They even have a love for Bournmouth who have cheated their way through the Premier league,don't get me started on why the media fawn over the most boring of sides,Burnley. We bloodied some noses to quickly I guess, namely Arsenal. Don't forget that tackle gets mentioned till this day, even in the last Euros I swear I heard it. We're branded, kinda like it in a way. Need that mojo back in the side
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Post by Stokiedokie on May 4, 2018 14:13:59 GMT
I'm exiled in Wolverhampton surrounded by deluded Dingles talking about Ronaldo ending his career at Molineux. You coildn't make it up!
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Post by wolf61 on May 4, 2018 15:29:25 GMT
I'm exiled in Wolverhampton surrounded by deluded Dingles talking about Ronaldo ending his career at Molineux. You coildn't make it up! I totally agree with you we have some deluded fans, as most clubs have....anyway Ronaldo is past is best so why would we want him, ( tin hat) joking aside Fosum are not interested in making the numbers up, they want champions league so they can break into the Chinese market. they have already set up a wolves pay-per-view tv and making all the right links in China to forward the wolves brand. the start of the ground redevelopment will start in 2019....up to 50k Fosum are very ambitious .... they will be pumping hundreds of millions over the nex few years.....will it work maybe/maybe not. But myself and im sure most wolves fans after the years of disappointment are going to enjoy the ride.... we know better than most the faulse hope can kill you...weve had plenty. so yes at times we are deluded....we my talk shite....we might be in the top 4 or not.....we will be laughed at and ridiculed,... told our town is a shit hole..we have 6 fingers....we are Dingles....ect..ect......we have heard it all before..... This 6 fingered Dingle, who lives in a shit hole .is going to enjoy every bit of it......
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Post by shotbybothsides on May 4, 2018 17:07:12 GMT
Another Wolves fan here, whose second team has always been Stoke as my brother and Dad are Stoke fans. a few may remember me posting a few years back, I often read the forum here after a game, but tend not to post as don't want to annoy people.
As usual, the truth might lie somewhere in the middle regards all this.
Wolves have definitely dropped very lucky with Fosun, and who knows where it might take us and I certainly accept that when it ends, normal shit service will be resumed, but I've seen so much shit over the last 40 years (just 4 years in the top flight, 2 of them relegated), like the other chap, I'm gonna try and enjoy it.
I've always thought Wolves and Stoke to be similar type clubs with working class support, maybe we have some deluded fans due to our fathers telling us about the 1950s. But some of the criticism is unfair. Under the Bhatti's many people did boycott, some not entirely through choice as no Season Tickets were printed to renew, and that never changed thoughout the season with the Bhatti's nowhere to be found (somewhere in Saudi Arabia apparently). Also only one crumbling terrace open and a side stand 100 metres from the pitch. West Brom fans often highlight our 3-4000 average home crowds around 1984 when we were bottom of the 3rd tier, but they forget they got as low as 6100 in the top flight at the same time. Stoke went very low too..........about 5,000. Like Stoke, Wolverhampton was very badly hit by recession in the 80s with its steel industry decimated. Wolverhampton back then was basically a huge iron foundry.
I could also point out that Wolves average in the 3rd division this time round (2-3 years ago) was just over 20,000, and not just when they looked like winning it - 19300 at our first game v Gillingham. This was higher than Stoke's Championship winning average of about 16,000 that suddenly doubled to 27000 in the premier.
Look, I understand that Stoke fans had absolutely little investment until the current regime took over. So I understand why that was, but it just goes to show anyone can use attendance figures to prove a point.
I always hope Stoke do well, as many Wolves fans used to do, and yes things come full circle and always will do. So yes I know many will love it when we collapse or fail. So be it.
Finally, I don't think many people understand FFP, Wolves have NOT breached it, Fosun knew exactly how to maximise it - infact we benefitted by being the club they identified to purchase as we had zero debt. Also, our wage bill is one-third of Villa's but we have been lucky because of one single thing - Nuno's friendship with Mendes. He does not play any official role but that invaluable link has elevated us to promotion, and again I know we are dead lucky but I am loving it. People forget Neves only played 6 games last season at Porto and was seen as a gamble, same with Jota. This for me, has been my best season ever.
Can't control the press, sorry if that annoys people. I don't know a single Wolves fan who has ever mentioned Ronaldo, but people like stereotypes.
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Post by salopian on May 4, 2018 18:00:58 GMT
Another Wolves fan here, whose second team has always been Stoke as my brother and Dad are Stoke fans. a few may remember me posting a few years back, I often read the forum here after a game, but tend not to post as don't want to annoy people. As usual, the truth might lie somewhere in the middle regards all this. Wolves have definitely dropped very lucky with Fosun, and who knows where it might take us and I certainly accept that when it ends, normal shit service will be resumed, but I've seen so much shit over the last 40 years (just 4 years in the top flight, 2 of them relegated), like the other chap, I'm gonna try and enjoy it. I've always thought Wolves and Stoke to be similar type clubs with working class support, maybe we have some deluded fans due to our fathers telling us about the 1950s. But some of the criticism is unfair. Under the Bhatti's many people did boycott, some not entirely through choice as no Season Tickets were printed to renew, and that never changed thoughout the season with the Bhatti's nowhere to be found (somewhere in Saudi Arabia apparently). Also only one crumbling terrace open and a side stand 100 metres from the pitch. West Brom fans often highlight our 3-4000 average home crowds around 1984 when we were bottom of the 3rd tier, but they forget they got as low as 6100 in the top flight at the same time. Stoke went very low too..........about 5,000. Like Stoke, Wolverhampton was very badly hit by recession in the 80s with its steel industry decimated. Wolverhampton back then was basically a huge iron foundry. I could also point out that Wolves average in the 3rd division this time round (2-3 years ago) was just over 20,000, and not just when they looked like winning it - 19300 at our first game v Gillingham. This was higher than Stoke's Championship winning average of about 16,000 that suddenly doubled to 27000 in the premier. Look, I understand that Stoke fans had absolutely little investment until the current regime took over. So I understand why that was, but it just goes to show anyone can use attendance figures to prove a point. I always hope Stoke do well, as many Wolves fans used to do, and yes things come full circle and always will do. So yes I know many will love it when we collapse or fail. So be it. Finally, I don't think many people understand FFP, Wolves have NOT breached it, Fosun knew exactly how to maximise it - infact we benefitted by being the club they identified to purchase as we had zero debt. Also, our wage bill is one-third of Villa's but we have been lucky because of one single thing - Nuno's friendship with Mendes. He does not play any official role but that invaluable link has elevated us to promotion, and again I know we are dead lucky but I am loving it. People forget Neves only played 6 games last season at Porto and was seen as a gamble, same with Jota. This for me, has been my best season ever. Can't control the press, sorry if that annoys people. I don't know a single Wolves fan who has ever mentioned Ronaldo, but people like stereotypes. Won't lie can't stand Wolves. mainly because of the 80's when Central news loved you along with rest of the West Mids and we barely got a mention. Having said that wouldn't disagree with much of what you have said. Stoke have only really been the Poorer Midland cousin and pretty much a lack of noticeable investment for 30 odd years where as you guys have had bigger investment even if it didn't come off.
Since the Premiership , yes we have had the 50m - 100m a year investment from TV etc , and a huge 1800 extra seats put in about 3 years to late, where as you guys have already got approx. 35,000 I would of thought with your last expansion and it you take it to 50,000 it clearly shows your Chinese investor really do have huge plans for growth and maybe success. You at looking to make yourself a force in the Midlands and the huge Chinese market while we struggle to promote the club much past Blythe Bridge! Don't know a significant amount about your team, but would appear a very good championship team with decent signings and making all the right noises of intent for the Prem while we look at the trap door which with so many mistakes of the club, and boards own making as annoying as it is, doesn't comes a surprise and can't complain when the last 20 months have in the main been dour, lack any pace , goals and any entertainment which has affected the apathy of many of the fans.
Many Stoke fans buy into Coates and local owner, big careful what you wish for , his love of the club etc and don't touch a foreign owner. Personally I would say thanks for 10 years in Premier , but if someone wants to invest money in Stoke and show some Ambition ( bigger scale then Iceland by the way) with a huge international market I would say go for it rather then more mediocre on the lower leagues I witnessed for 30 plus years under much the same regime.. Yes the Premiership is sadly only about the big 6,and where the money is but surely doesn't mean we don't want to be in there... Ambition!
Regards Wolves, I think you will do ok even as it, you can score.. which always helps!!!
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Post by lordb on May 4, 2018 20:17:29 GMT
Another Wolves fan here, whose second team has always been Stoke as my brother and Dad are Stoke fans. a few may remember me posting a few years back, I often read the forum here after a game, but tend not to post as don't want to annoy people. As usual, the truth might lie somewhere in the middle regards all this. Wolves have definitely dropped very lucky with Fosun, and who knows where it might take us and I certainly accept that when it ends, normal shit service will be resumed, but I've seen so much shit over the last 40 years (just 4 years in the top flight, 2 of them relegated), like the other chap, I'm gonna try and enjoy it. I've always thought Wolves and Stoke to be similar type clubs with working class support, maybe we have some deluded fans due to our fathers telling us about the 1950s. But some of the criticism is unfair. Under the Bhatti's many people did boycott, some not entirely through choice as no Season Tickets were printed to renew, and that never changed thoughout the season with the Bhatti's nowhere to be found (somewhere in Saudi Arabia apparently). Also only one crumbling terrace open and a side stand 100 metres from the pitch. West Brom fans often highlight our 3-4000 average home crowds around 1984 when we were bottom of the 3rd tier, but they forget they got as low as 6100 in the top flight at the same time. Stoke went very low too..........about 5,000. Like Stoke, Wolverhampton was very badly hit by recession in the 80s with its steel industry decimated. Wolverhampton back then was basically a huge iron foundry. I could also point out that Wolves average in the 3rd division this time round (2-3 years ago) was just over 20,000, and not just when they looked like winning it - 19300 at our first game v Gillingham. This was higher than Stoke's Championship winning average of about 16,000 that suddenly doubled to 27000 in the premier. Look, I understand that Stoke fans had absolutely little investment until the current regime took over. So I understand why that was, but it just goes to show anyone can use attendance figures to prove a point. I always hope Stoke do well, as many Wolves fans used to do, and yes things come full circle and always will do. So yes I know many will love it when we collapse or fail. So be it. Finally, I don't think many people understand FFP, Wolves have NOT breached it, Fosun knew exactly how to maximise it - infact we benefitted by being the club they identified to purchase as we had zero debt. Also, our wage bill is one-third of Villa's but we have been lucky because of one single thing - Nuno's friendship with Mendes. He does not play any official role but that invaluable link has elevated us to promotion, and again I know we are dead lucky but I am loving it. People forget Neves only played 6 games last season at Porto and was seen as a gamble, same with Jota. This for me, has been my best season ever. Can't control the press, sorry if that annoys people. I don't know a single Wolves fan who has ever mentioned Ronaldo, but people like stereotypes. Stokes averages never went anywhere near 5000, not even in the eighties. For old school Wolves fans fair play re the pre Jack Hayward days but when that money came in there was an explosion of bullshitting Wolves fans. It's a club that's always attracted a bigger proportion of supporters who overrate themselves than most other clubs. Newcastle, Wolves,West Ham. If I didn't know better would think they were huge clubs who should be dominating English football not provincial no marks like the rest of us.
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Post by chamberlain on May 4, 2018 20:29:39 GMT
Wolves fans have been very quiet until this season I wonder why that is
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Post by woodstein on May 4, 2018 22:02:10 GMT
Much like the love in for plucky Bournemouth, who got promoted against the odds (having a billionaire owner who ignored FFP helped somewhat), I expect it to get worse over the summer and into next season, especially if they have a good start. Nothing to do with the rather dodgy ownership structure / involvement of the super-agent, but how it is great to have one of football's "old guard" back "where they belong". Not looking forward to it in the slightest! Try not let it bother you and concentrate on the championship which we'll be in - can watch highlights on the Quest channel! Only thing is that Leeds are in the division and they think they have a right to be in the top flight just because a few decent years under Don Revie.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on May 4, 2018 22:34:10 GMT
I despise Wolves with a passion . I'd even want Man U to beat them .
Got lucky recruiting Mendes as an ally make the most of it.
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Post by BristolMick on May 4, 2018 23:35:17 GMT
I despise Wolves with a passion . I'd even want Man U to beat them . Got lucky recruiting Mendes as an ally make the most of it. I would never want ManU to beat anyone. They are every clubs local rivals thanks to the glory hunting parasites that infest every town and village in the country. No problem with Wolves at all. BM
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Post by shotbybothsides on May 5, 2018 5:45:16 GMT
quote]Stokes averages never went anywhere near 5000, not even in the eighties. For old school Wolves fans fair play re the pre Jack Hayward days but when that money came in there was an explosion of bullshitting Wolves fans. It's a club that's always attracted a bigger proportion of supporters who overrate themselves than most other clubs. Newcastle, Wolves,West Ham. If I didn't know better would think they were huge clubs who should be dominating English football not provincial no marks like the rest of us.[/quote]
Mate I agree with some of what you say, but I never said you 'averaged' 5000.
Wolves lowest average was just over 4000 bottom of the 3rd division under the Bhatti's, but Stoke never had it as bad as Wolves back then, and you have never been unable to buy or renew season tickets as far as I know.
Stoke averaged around 8000 in the second division as far as I remember at the same time, and were regularly averaging 11000 - 14000 1994-2004, then 16000 when you got promoted to the premiership. In fairness, aren't the 10,000 extra Stokies who suddenly appeared in the premiership exactly the same or even more glory-hunting than the extra 8000 average Wolves attracted in the 2nd division when Sir Jack bought Wolves and built a new ground? I know Wolves fans in Stafford couldn't believe the sudden increase in people wearing Stoke tops as soon as they got Premiership promotion, all mouthing off.
In fairness to the current generation of Wolves fans, we have only averaged under 20,000 once in the last 25 years, and that was a 19,000 average. What success have we had in that time?
I do agree about the 'over-rating ourselves' thing, I don't know why it is, I honestly think it is because of our fathers (not my father) who brought us up drumming it down our throats how we were better than the Busby Babes at the time etc etc - Champions of England etc, but of course we all know what happened thereafter. That was years and years ago, and I do think it is less obvious a trait now, after all that time. But it is indeed a distorted, exaggerated view of our club, and whenever I come across Wolves fans with that view (mainly elder ones) I try to put them right. Most of them don't care unfortunately.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2018 6:34:31 GMT
They'll probably do well for three seasons: Autumn, winter and spring 😬
See how well they do when their manager and players are poached
We've certainly proved in Berahino, Wimmer, Palacios, Imbula etc Al that big money does not guarantee big players (apart from lardy Wimmer and Be a Rhino 😬)
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2018 6:38:07 GMT
One thing is for sure,they,(the media) never arse licked us. Don't know why,unless it was the way we played under Pulis,but it carried on after he left,they never seemed to like us from day one up until now. If the above is true,how come they seemed to like Pulis at Palace and West Brom,but disliked Stoke City? They even have a love for Bournmouth who have cheated their way through the Premier league,don't get me started on why the media fawn over the most boring of sides,Burnley. I think the up Final really stuck in the media's craw having to big us up 😬
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Post by mrred on May 5, 2018 6:45:16 GMT
No offence to the Wolves fans on here, you sound reasonable sorts. But fuck Wolves. I hope the piss coloured stadium is swallowed into the ground.
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Post by puddledpotter on May 5, 2018 8:22:32 GMT
I think that there will always be attention on the promotion and relegation teams from the media driven by the premier league marketing operation rather than having a particular favourite. Without change things,become stale, financial fair play ensures there is little chance of change at the top so they concentrate on the bottom to market the myth that the premier league is competitive and interesting rather than the sterile almost robotic product it is becoming.
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Post by thevoid on May 5, 2018 8:28:37 GMT
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