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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 28, 2018 16:26:06 GMT
So you're saying we HAD to win against Liverpool (likely Champs league finalists, contain golden boot winner, player of the year and a forward line that have scored over 70 goals between them) and because we didn't we're definitely, but we have no chance of beating a side who now have nothing to play for and a team who are just as shite as us and you call me a fool?? Re-read your own post, look at the logic you used and think about how fucking thick it is Despite your insistence on calling everyone you disagree with thick, you’re making yourself look a bit of tit with all your if’s, but’s and maybe’s. What will you be clinging onto if we don’t win next week? The hope that one of the teams above are deducted points? The Premier League make a last minute rule change that only the bottom side gets relegated? When you're in our position it IS about ifs, buts and maybes you tool!!! I called you thick because if you could do basic maths you'd already know that as EVEN IF WE HAD WON EVERY ONE OF OUR LAST 3 GAMES WE WOULD STILL BE RELIANT ON IFS, BUTS AND MAYBES AS WE NEED THE TEAMS ABOVE US TO DROP POINTS WHATEVER WE DO. US STAYING UP IS NOT JUST IN OUR HANDS!!!!!!!!!
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 28, 2018 16:29:29 GMT
So you're saying we HAD to win against Liverpool (likely Champs league finalists, contain golden boot winner, player of the year and a forward line that have scored over 70 goals between them) and because we didn't we're definitely down and it isn't good enough, but we have no chance of beating a side who now have nothing to play for and a team who are just as shite as us and you call me a fool?? Re-read your own post, look at the logic you used and think about how fucking thick it is Us being where we are is due to the whole season, given the maths required for us staying up, today was NOT a must win game as it makes no mathematical difference to us staying up. In terms of confidence, we just kept out the best forward in the league (which pretty much no one else has all season) and took points off a side who have battered Man City in the Champs league then banged in 5 in the semi final. Going into games against Palace and Swnasea that will be a massive confidence boost! WE ARE RELIANT ON SWANSEA NOT WINNING POINTS UNTIL THEY PLAY US. EVEN IF WE HAD WON TODAY AND AGAINST PALACE IT WOULD STILL COME DOWN TO OUR GAME AGAINST SWANSEA ON THE LAST DAY ANYWAY (in capitals for those that don't know how a fucking league table works....jesus!) Deluded fool ^ 😉 Nope simple maths, logic and the way league tables fucking work and have done for decades. You not having the brain cells to understand that isn't my issue i'm afraid mate. If we had won today and Swansea got no points until the last day, IT WOULD STILL COME DOWN TO THAT LAST MATCH AS LONG AS WE BEAT PALACE....AS IT STILL WILL NOW IF WE BEAT PALACE ANYWAY!!!!!! Genuinely, what part of that aren't you getting?
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Post by claytonscrubs on Apr 28, 2018 16:33:29 GMT
Nope simple maths, logic and the way league tables fucking work and have done for decades. You not having the brain cells to understand that isn't my issue i'm afraid mate. If we had won today and Swansea got no points until the last day, IT WOULD STILL COME DOWN TO THAT LAST MATCH AS LONG AS WE BEAT PALACE....AS IT STILL WILL IF WE BEAT PALACE ANYWAY!!!!!! Genuinely, what part of that aren't you getting? Calm down, and keep off the fun juice mate...Are you seeing flying pigs by the way? 🙂 And stop shouting!
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Post by vahl on Apr 28, 2018 16:38:14 GMT
Dunno where maths comes in to it tbh. When you're 2nd bottom in the league, you have to win to get out if it before 38 games are over. We didn't need to win? Not winning is the reason the table reads like it does! You don't know where maths comes into who stays up or goes down? Maths is precisely what decides which 3 of the bottom 5 teams currently in the relegation battle stay up or go down you tit. Embarrassed yourself with that post a bit there Maths is how we analyse and interpret the league, yes, but what it has to do with needing to win I don't know. Why do we even want to play in the Premier League if you turn up to a match feeling like you don't need to win, in fact why are we even a professional football club is that's an active view? Have you forgotten what it feels like to win too? You were the one who used the words 'we didn't need to win'. As I said, not winning is the reason we find ourselves in the relegation spots. It's hardly embarrassing btw, it's not like I'm trying to say maths doesn't have anything to do with football or denying its existence. Maths is life, man, it's part of everything.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 28, 2018 16:39:45 GMT
Nope simple maths, logic and the way league tables fucking work and have done for decades. You not having the brain cells to understand that isn't my issue i'm afraid mate. If we had won today and Swansea got no points until the last day, IT WOULD STILL COME DOWN TO THAT LAST MATCH AS LONG AS WE BEAT PALACE....AS IT STILL WILL IF WE BEAT PALACE ANYWAY!!!!!! Genuinely, what part of that aren't you getting? Calm down, and keep off the fun juice mate...Are you seeing flying pigs? 🙂 And stop shouting! Not shouting mate, just in capitals as you seem to be conveniently ignoring what's obvious to everyone else...i.e. how a bloody league table works because it kinda proves you're talking shit. If we had won we would need to go down to the last game providing we beat Palace and Swansea get no more points, we drew so providing we beat Palace and Swansea get no more points guess what...it goes down to the last game! Those ifs, buts and maybes (us beating Palace, us being reliant on teams above us not taking points) are there and would STILL be there regardless of whether we'd won today or not!
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 28, 2018 16:45:28 GMT
You don't know where maths comes into who stays up or goes down? Maths is precisely what decides which 3 of the bottom 5 teams currently in the relegation battle stay up or go down you tit. Embarrassed yourself with that post a bit there Maths is how we analyse and interpret the league, yes, but what it has to do with needing to win I don't know. Why do we even want to play in the Premier League if you turn up to a match feeling like you don't need to win, in fact why are we even a professional football club is that's an active view? Have you forgotten what it feels like to win too? You were the one who used the words 'we didn't need to win'. As I said, not winning is the reason we find ourselves in the relegation spots. It's hardly embarrassing btw, it's not like I'm trying to say maths doesn't have anything to do with football or denying its existence. Maths is life, man, it's part of everything. When i say we didn't need to win it's pretty simple really mate...... If we'd won today we would STILL have to beat Palace and hope Swansea get no more points and then it would go down to the last day of the season. If we drew today then we have to beat Palace and hope Swansea get no nore points and then it goes down to the last day of the season. Winning today would NOT have changed what we need to do in the coming games and what we need to pray for from the teams above us.
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Post by clarkeda on Apr 28, 2018 16:46:27 GMT
6 -2 for Fletcher, It needed a striker on for Crouch. Otherwise it would've been an 8. Don’t completely agree, even Ireland would have been ok-ish
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Post by claytonscrubs on Apr 28, 2018 16:47:46 GMT
Calm down, and keep off the fun juice mate...Are you seeing flying pigs? 🙂 And stop shouting! Not shouting mate, just in capitals as you seem to be conveniently ignoring what's obvious to everyone else...i.e. how a bloody league table works because it kinda proves you're talking shit. If we had won we would need to go down to the last game providing we beat Palace and Swansea get no more points, we drew so providing we beat Palace and Swansea get no more points guess what...it goes down to the last game! Those ifs, buts and maybes (us beating Palace, us being reliant on teams above us not taking points) are there and would STILL be there regardless of whether we'd won today or not! I’m going to get back to you when we’re relegated, ok?..You’re obviously a deluded Lambert lover. You get back to me when we win a game of football under Lambert, 2019 or 2020?... I’ll be waiting for you. 😉
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Post by vahl on Apr 28, 2018 16:58:49 GMT
Maths is how we analyse and interpret the league, yes, but what it has to do with needing to win I don't know. Why do we even want to play in the Premier League if you turn up to a match feeling like you don't need to win, in fact why are we even a professional football club is that's an active view? Have you forgotten what it feels like to win too? You were the one who used the words 'we didn't need to win'. As I said, not winning is the reason we find ourselves in the relegation spots. It's hardly embarrassing btw, it's not like I'm trying to say maths doesn't have anything to do with football or denying its existence. Maths is life, man, it's part of everything. When i say we didn't need to win it's pretty simple really mate...... If we'd won today we would STILL have to beat Palace and hope Swansea get no more points and then it would go down to the last day of the season. If we drew today then we have to beat Palace and hope Swansea get no nore points and then it goes down to the last day of the season. Winning today would NOT have changed what we need to do in the coming games and what we need to pray for from the teams above us. Winning today would have put us on for a potential finish of 38 points - if you don't think that's guaranteed safety then I don't know what else to say. You are doing your own head in trying to explain all the different outcomes, it's pointless because it changes too frequently on any given match day. There is still a very small chance that West Brom could escape relegation for example. Your name's not Clifford DeVoe is it?
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Post by chuckrocky on Apr 28, 2018 17:21:49 GMT
Despite your insistence on calling everyone you disagree with thick, you’re making yourself look a bit of tit with all your if’s, but’s and maybe’s. What will you be clinging onto if we don’t win next week? The hope that one of the teams above are deducted points? The Premier League make a last minute rule change that only the bottom side gets relegated? When you're in our position it IS about ifs, buts and maybes you tool!!! I called you thick because if you could do basic maths you'd already know that as EVEN IF WE HAD WON EVERY ONE OF OUR LAST 3 GAMES WE WOULD STILL BE RELIANT ON IFS, BUTS AND MAYBES AS WE NEED THE TEAMS ABOVE US TO DROP POINTS WHATEVER WE DO. US STAYING UP IS NOT JUST IN OUR HANDS!!!!!!!!! What you’ve been saying is today’s result will have no bearing on our fate, which is just ludicrous.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 28, 2018 17:31:02 GMT
Not shouting mate, just in capitals as you seem to be conveniently ignoring what's obvious to everyone else...i.e. how a bloody league table works because it kinda proves you're talking shit. If we had won we would need to go down to the last game providing we beat Palace and Swansea get no more points, we drew so providing we beat Palace and Swansea get no more points guess what...it goes down to the last game! Those ifs, buts and maybes (us beating Palace, us being reliant on teams above us not taking points) are there and would STILL be there regardless of whether we'd won today or not! I’m going to get back to you when we’re relegated, ok?..You’re obviously a deluded Lambert lover. You get back to me when we win a game of football under Lambert, 2019 or 2020?... I’ll be waiting for you. 😉 And you're obviously someone who can't actually read anyone's posts properly. When have i said we were staying up? When have i said i think anything other than we're going down (which i've thought for weeks)? All i've said is that winning today or drawing today basically makes no difference to our chances, as we have to do the same things and rely on the same things now that we would have even if we'd won. Tell you what, when you learn how to read what people actually say and when you find the brains not to create a strawman argument simply to deflect from the fact that you've been proved to be a bit simple (as you clearly have no idea how many points you get for a win or a draw or how that effects the table), then come back to me eh flower I've thought we're going down for weeks regardless of what is or isn't mathematically possible...that doesn't change the fact that mathematically today was not must win at all (which is all i said from the start)
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 28, 2018 17:37:44 GMT
When i say we didn't need to win it's pretty simple really mate...... If we'd won today we would STILL have to beat Palace and hope Swansea get no more points and then it would go down to the last day of the season. If we drew today then we have to beat Palace and hope Swansea get no nore points and then it goes down to the last day of the season. Winning today would NOT have changed what we need to do in the coming games and what we need to pray for from the teams above us. Winning today would have put us on for a potential finish of 38 points - if you don't think that's guaranteed safety then I don't know what else to say. You are doing your own head in trying to explain all the different outcomes, it's pointless because it changes too frequently on any given match day. There is still a very small chance that West Brom could escape relegation for example. Your name's not Clifford DeVoe is it? Explaining and understanding the different permutations is essential you moron as just us winning is no longer good enough It doesn't matter how many points WE get alone now....there are teams above us so even if we get 38, that doesn't mean shit unless results for those teams go the way we need them to. Thank fuck you're not managing anyone if you think "just win the next 3 and we're safe", only to find when we do that Swansea have also won a couple and we're still down anyway. WE ARE 100% RELIANT ON OTHER RESULTS GOING OUR WAY EVEN IF WE WON TODAY AND THE LAST 2!!!!! US JUST WINNING IS NOT ENOUGH!!!!!! How can you not understand that? It's how the bloody sport fucking works!!!! It's too rare on this board nowadays but one is definitely needed here.........................Jesus hates Christ!!!
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Post by claytonscrubs on Apr 28, 2018 17:43:38 GMT
I’m going to get back to you when we’re relegated, ok?..You’re obviously a deluded Lambert lover. You get back to me when we win a game of football under Lambert, 2019 or 2020?... I’ll be waiting for you. 😉 And you're obviously someone who can't actually read anyone's posts properly. When have i said we were staying up? When have i said i think anything other than we're going down (which i've thought for weeks)? All i've said is that winning today or drawing today basically makes no difference to our chances, as we have to do the same things and rely on the same things now that we would have even if we'd won. Tell you what, when you learn how to read what people actually say and when you find the brains not to create a strawman argument simply to deflect from the fact that you've been proved to be a bit simple (as you clearly have no idea how many points you get for a win or a draw or how that effects the table), then come back to me eh flower I've thought we're going down for weeks regardless of what is or isn't mathematically possible...that doesn't change the fact that mathematically today was not must win at all (which is all i said from the start) Reading your posts is sending me to sleep, but please carry on... If you think that was a good point today, then you’re deluded.....What was Lambert doing bringing Fletcher on and leaving Ireland on bench again?
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 28, 2018 17:46:08 GMT
When you're in our position it IS about ifs, buts and maybes you tool!!! I called you thick because if you could do basic maths you'd already know that as EVEN IF WE HAD WON EVERY ONE OF OUR LAST 3 GAMES WE WOULD STILL BE RELIANT ON IFS, BUTS AND MAYBES AS WE NEED THE TEAMS ABOVE US TO DROP POINTS WHATEVER WE DO. US STAYING UP IS NOT JUST IN OUR HANDS!!!!!!!!! What you’ve been saying is today’s result will have no bearing on our fate, which is just ludicrous. Win today, hope Swansea get no more points in their next 2, beat Palace and it goes down to the last game of the season. Draw today, hope Swansea get no more points in their next 2, beat Palace and it goes down to the last game of the season Genuinely interested to see your reply, how do you argue against that exactly? Really doesn't take a rocket scientist. Whether we won today or drew today, we still mathematically have a chance of staying up (not that i personally think we will and haven't for weeks) and still have to do the same things regardless and still have to rely on other results going our way regardless. All of that is FACT, not my opinion or speculation or conjecture it just is fact whether you like it or not. Not winning today has not relegated us, and winning today would not have kept us up. We still have to get results and hope others don't! That's exactly the way it would have been even if we had won! Why can't you get your head around that? It really is extremely simple....do you want me to come around to your house and draw you a picture to make it easier for you petal?
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 28, 2018 17:48:15 GMT
And you're obviously someone who can't actually read anyone's posts properly. When have i said we were staying up? When have i said i think anything other than we're going down (which i've thought for weeks)? All i've said is that winning today or drawing today basically makes no difference to our chances, as we have to do the same things and rely on the same things now that we would have even if we'd won. Tell you what, when you learn how to read what people actually say and when you find the brains not to create a strawman argument simply to deflect from the fact that you've been proved to be a bit simple (as you clearly have no idea how many points you get for a win or a draw or how that effects the table), then come back to me eh flower I've thought we're going down for weeks regardless of what is or isn't mathematically possible...that doesn't change the fact that mathematically today was not must win at all (which is all i said from the start) Reading your posts is sending me to sleep, but please carry on... If you think that was a good point today, then you’re deluded.....What was Lambert doing bringing Fletcher on and leaving Ireland on bench again? Why do you insist on arguing against things i haven't even said? Strawman arguments...invented by those who are floundering and can't argue the points actually raised, so rely on arguing against things no one even fucking said instead. How embarrassing for you
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Post by claytonscrubs on Apr 28, 2018 17:48:59 GMT
When i say we didn't need to win it's pretty simple really mate...... If we'd won today we would STILL have to beat Palace and hope Swansea get no more points and then it would go down to the last day of the season. If we drew today then we have to beat Palace and hope Swansea get no nore points and then it goes down to the last day of the season. Winning today would NOT have changed what we need to do in the coming games and what we need to pray for from the teams above us. Winning today would have put us on for a potential finish of 38 points - if you don't think that's guaranteed safety then I don't know what else to say. You are doing your own head in trying to explain all the different outcomes, it's pointless because it changes too frequently on any given match day. There is still a very small chance that West Brom could escape relegation for example. Your name's not Clifford DeVoe is it? He thinks he’s Carol Vorderman methinks..😂
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 28, 2018 17:51:36 GMT
Winning today would have put us on for a potential finish of 38 points - if you don't think that's guaranteed safety then I don't know what else to say. You are doing your own head in trying to explain all the different outcomes, it's pointless because it changes too frequently on any given match day. There is still a very small chance that West Brom could escape relegation for example. Your name's not Clifford DeVoe is it? He thinks he’s Carol Vorderman methinks..😂 Whereas you're the dullard sat in the corner chomping on crayons....adding 1 or 3 to a points total really isn't actually that hard, and i'm sure with the proper application, commitment, support and hard work you'll master it one day
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Post by claytonscrubs on Apr 28, 2018 17:52:53 GMT
Reading your posts is sending me to sleep, but please carry on... If you think that was a good point today, then you’re deluded.....What was Lambert doing bringing Fletcher on and leaving Ireland on bench again? Why do you insist on arguing against things i haven't even said? Strawman arguments...invented by those who are floundering and can't argue the points actually raised, so rely on arguing against things no one even fucking said instead. How embarrassing for you Carry on making a fool of yourself...You’re just going around in circles mate.. Zzzzzzzzzzzz...I’ll ask you again, what did you think of Lambert bringing Fletcher on and ignoring Ireland?
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Post by chuckrocky on Apr 28, 2018 17:57:57 GMT
What you’ve been saying is today’s result will have no bearing on our fate, which is just ludicrous. Win today, hope Swansea get no more points in their next 2, beat Palace and it goes down to the last game of the season. Draw today, hope Swansea get no more points in their next 2, beat Palace and it goes down to the last game of the season Genuinely interested to see your reply, how do you argue against that exactly? Really doesn't take a rocket scientist. Whether we won today or drew today, we still mathematically have a chance of staying up (not that i personally think we will and haven't for weeks) and still have to do the same things regardless and still have to rely on other results going our way regardless. All of that is FACT, not my opinion or speculation or conjecture it just is fact whether you like it or not. Not winning today has not relegated us, and winning today would not have kept us up. We still have to get results and hope others don't! That's exactly the way it would have been even if we had won! Why can't you get your head around that? It really is extremely simple....do you want me to come around to your house and draw you a picture to make it easier for you petal? We might win the next two and still go down by a point or two, in which case today has ultimately had a bearing on our fate. It’s that simple.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 28, 2018 18:01:20 GMT
Why do you insist on arguing against things i haven't even said? Strawman arguments...invented by those who are floundering and can't argue the points actually raised, so rely on arguing against things no one even fucking said instead. How embarrassing for you Carry on making a fool of yourself...You’re just going around in circles mate.. Zzzzzzzzzzzz Going around in circles due to the fact that as of yet, you're still to come up with a single valid argument against what i've said as you've simply relied on arguing things i haven't even said anywhere you complete nugget The person who insists on creating strawman arguments is the one who embarrasses themselves in a discussion mate. All it does is illustrate that you have no valid points whatsoever to everyone else reading
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Post by claytonscrubs on Apr 28, 2018 18:04:16 GMT
Carry on making a fool of yourself...You’re just going around in circles mate.. Zzzzzzzzzzzz Going around in circles due to the fact that as of yet, you're still to come up with a single valid argumwnt against what i've said as you've simply relied on arguing things i haven't even said anywhere you complete nugget The person who insists on creating strawman arguments is the one who embarrasses themselves in a discussion mate. All it does is illustrate that you have no valid points whatsoever to everyone else reading What did you think of Lambert bringing on Fletcher and ignoring Ireland ? Good move?
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 28, 2018 18:08:28 GMT
Win today, hope Swansea get no more points in their next 2, beat Palace and it goes down to the last game of the season. Draw today, hope Swansea get no more points in their next 2, beat Palace and it goes down to the last game of the season Genuinely interested to see your reply, how do you argue against that exactly? Really doesn't take a rocket scientist. Whether we won today or drew today, we still mathematically have a chance of staying up (not that i personally think we will and haven't for weeks) and still have to do the same things regardless and still have to rely on other results going our way regardless. All of that is FACT, not my opinion or speculation or conjecture it just is fact whether you like it or not. Not winning today has not relegated us, and winning today would not have kept us up. We still have to get results and hope others don't! That's exactly the way it would have been even if we had won! Why can't you get your head around that? It really is extremely simple....do you want me to come around to your house and draw you a picture to make it easier for you petal? We might win the next two and still go down by a point or two, in which case today has ultimately had a bearing on our fate. It’s that simple. Correct....which is why i mentioned a couple of times that WE ARE RELIANT ON OTHER RESULTS REGARDLESS!!!!!! I'm certainly not the one who thinks that other permutations or the maths of the situation are irrelevant...that's you and your little mate who have been arguing that yet now you've chamged tack with that post and decided it is relevant after all which is what i've said all along All i said was that today was NOT a game we HAD to win as winning it doesn't keep us up and not winning it doesn't send us down as it depends upon other results anyway. If we drew today and IF things go our way, it goes to the last game of the season. Win that and we stay up..If we won today and IF things go our way it still goes to the last game of the season. Win that and we stay up. Glad to see you finally agree with me
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 28, 2018 18:09:59 GMT
Going around in circles due to the fact that as of yet, you're still to come up with a single valid argumwnt against what i've said as you've simply relied on arguing things i haven't even said anywhere you complete nugget The person who insists on creating strawman arguments is the one who embarrasses themselves in a discussion mate. All it does is illustrate that you have no valid points whatsoever to everyone else reading What did you think of Lambert bringing on Fletcher and ignoring Ireland ? Good move? Question....what the fuck does that have to do with ANYTHING i've said? Still insisting on ignoring what i've actually said, and desperately trying to change the entire discussion to something entirely different now....and i'm the one embarrassing myself
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Post by claytonscrubs on Apr 28, 2018 18:15:32 GMT
What did you think of Lambert bringing on Fletcher and ignoring Ireland ? Good move? Question....what the fuck does that have to do with ANYTHING i've said? Still insisting on ignoring what i've actually said, and desperately trying to change the entire discussion to something entirely different now....and i'm the one embarrassing myself You’re just stating the bloody obvious with your boring posts...Why can’t you answer my question?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 18:18:46 GMT
10. We still have a chance of staying up after a trip to Anfield where everyone expected us to get battered. We are wanker than wank so to get a point is a great result. I still believe that Lambert will get us straight back up next season for some ridiculous reason
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 28, 2018 18:19:27 GMT
Question....what the fuck does that have to do with ANYTHING i've said? Still insisting on ignoring what i've actually said, and desperately trying to change the entire discussion to something entirely different now....and i'm the one embarrassing myself You’re just stating the bloody obvious with your boring posts...Why can’t you answer my question? Because i have no interest in arguing the toss with someone who has proved that they can't actually address what people have said and insist on initially creating strawman arguments, then when that's spotted they try to change the subject entirely. As it happens i thought it was ridiculous but it has fuck all to do with what we've been talking about for the last couple of hours so has no relevance to our discussion
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Post by vahl on Apr 28, 2018 18:23:25 GMT
Winning today would have put us on for a potential finish of 38 points - if you don't think that's guaranteed safety then I don't know what else to say. You are doing your own head in trying to explain all the different outcomes, it's pointless because it changes too frequently on any given match day. There is still a very small chance that West Brom could escape relegation for example. Your name's not Clifford DeVoe is it? Explaining and understanding the different permutations is essential you moron as just us winning is no longer good enough It doesn't matter how many points WE get alone now....there are teams above us so even if we get 38, that doesn't mean shit unless results for those teams go the way we need them to. Thank fuck you're not managing anyone if you think "just win the next 3 and we're safe", only to find when we do that Swansea have also won a couple and we're still down anyway. WE ARE 100% RELIANT ON OTHER RESULTS GOING OUR WAY EVEN IF WE WON TODAY AND THE LAST 2!!!!! US JUST WINNING IS NOT ENOUGH!!!!!! How can you not understand that? It's how the bloody sport fucking works!!!! It's too rare on this board nowadays but one is definitely needed here.........................Jesus hates Christ!!! You said earlier that we didn't need to win today and again you're saying that us winning is not enough. I don't understand what you're on about. If we had won today we could have been looking at a potential 38 points, which is not relying on other club's results, it's putting fate back in to our own hands. Are you seriously suggesting that 38 points is not enough to survive this season? If you want to do some maths then there you go. Also the sport works by pitting 2 teams against each other with the aim of being the one that finishes 90 minutes on the most goals - AKA winning.
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Post by claytonscrubs on Apr 28, 2018 18:24:38 GMT
You’re just stating the bloody obvious with your boring posts...Why can’t you answer my question? Because i have no interest in arguing the toss with someone who has proved that they can't actually address what people have said and insist on initially creating strawman arguments, then whem that's spotted they try to change the subject entirely. As it happens i thought it was ridiculous but it has fuck all to do with what we've besn talking about for the last couple of hours All you’ve said in your tedious posts so far, is that Stoke haven’t been relegated yet, with that point today......Well done Einstein! 😉
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Post by chuckrocky on Apr 28, 2018 18:25:21 GMT
We might win the next two and still go down by a point or two, in which case today has ultimately had a bearing on our fate. It’s that simple. Correct....which is why i mentioned a couple of times that WE ARE RELIANT ON OTHER RESULTS REGARDLESS!!!!!! I'm certainly not the one who thinks that other permutations or the maths of the situation are irrelevant...that's you and your little mate who have been arguing that yet now you've chamged tack with that post and decided it is relevant after all which is what i've said all along All i said was that today was NOT a game we HAD to win as winning it doesn't keep us up and not winning it doesn't send us down as it depends upon other results anyway. If we drew today and IF things go our way, it goes to the last game of the season. Win that and we stay up..If we won today and IF things go our way it still goes to the last game of the season. Win that and we stay up. Glad to see you finally agree with me I give up, has been a pleasure debating with you though.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 28, 2018 20:11:29 GMT
Because i have no interest in arguing the toss with someone who has proved that they can't actually address what people have said and insist on initially creating strawman arguments, then whem that's spotted they try to change the subject entirely. As it happens i thought it was ridiculous but it has fuck all to do with what we've besn talking about for the last couple of hours All you’ve said in your tedious posts so far, is that Stoke haven’t been relegated yet, with that point today......Well done Einstein! 😉 So why were you arguing against it then? Typical, realise you have no argument, create strawman argument, change the discussion to something else entirely then pretend you weren't arguing against it in the first place and insult their posts how embarrassing
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