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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2018 8:56:27 GMT
Who would you get in? I'm struggling for anyone realistic. There have to be better options out there than Lambert - I refuse to accept otherwise. I can't stand his dour, incomprehensible press conferences, his daft blue tracksuit, and worst of all his shit tactics, football and substitutions. It's been said 1000 times on here already but he's been a complete failure since he took over - you can't dress up those stats. He's got a better group of players to call upon that Hughes had and he's done worse. (I'm not defending Hughes) The aim should be promotion next year but we'll be lumbered with a manager with no wins since his first game in charge in January (probably), a mostly disillusioned fanbase, and a shit dressing room. A new manager could change at least 2 of those 3 things. If the club are serious about coming up at the first attempt then how about backing one of these... QSF - now out of work. Originally interested to some degree. Let's go back and try again. I don't see any shame in this. Moyes - West ham are a basket case. He might just fancy it here as we are much more in the Preston/Everton mould and he could build something in more stable surroundings. Paul Cook - manager on the up. Graham Potter - a big risk but imo worth taking when the alternative is Lambert. Marco Silva - look at Wolves. Big Sam - probably unrealistic but he might be out of a job in the summer. He doesn't seem to suit more "glamorous" clubs. Big name ex pro like Vieira, Lampard, Neville or Gerrard. Wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea but I would take these guys comfortably over PL. Kevin Nolan - another young manager on the up. Has turned around Notts County. As in January, we are still an attractive proposition to most managers and there are plenty of options about. We weren't an attractive proposition in January - hence why we got Lambert.
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Post by Silvio on Apr 27, 2018 8:59:47 GMT
There have to be better options out there than Lambert - I refuse to accept otherwise. I can't stand his dour, incomprehensible press conferences, his daft blue tracksuit, and worst of all his shit tactics, football and substitutions. It's been said 1000 times on here already but he's been a complete failure since he took over - you can't dress up those stats. He's got a better group of players to call upon that Hughes had and he's done worse. (I'm not defending Hughes) The aim should be promotion next year but we'll be lumbered with a manager with no wins since his first game in charge in January (probably), a mostly disillusioned fanbase, and a shit dressing room. A new manager could change at least 2 of those 3 things. If the club are serious about coming up at the first attempt then how about backing one of these... QSF - now out of work. Originally interested to some degree. Let's go back and try again. I don't see any shame in this. Moyes - West ham are a basket case. He might just fancy it here as we are much more in the Preston/Everton mould and he could build something in more stable surroundings. Paul Cook - manager on the up. Graham Potter - a big risk but imo worth taking when the alternative is Lambert. Marco Silva - look at Wolves. Big Sam - probably unrealistic but he might be out of a job in the summer. He doesn't seem to suit more "glamorous" clubs. Big name ex pro like Vieira, Lampard, Neville or Gerrard. Wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea but I would take these guys comfortably over PL. Kevin Nolan - another young manager on the up. Has turned around Notts County. As in January, we are still an attractive proposition to most managers and there are plenty of options about. Lampard or Gerrard over PL? đ Why not? Gerrard with Gary Mcallister as assistant being linked to Rangers. I'd take that double act over PL any day. Likewise Lampard with an experienced number 2. I reckon both scenarios would have got a better points haul than PL has. Lambert is dire.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 27, 2018 9:10:34 GMT
Great so now we're just going with anyone with a pulse, I've said already my opinion of Lambert has changed but if anyone thinks it would be anything more than just a sideways move manager wise then they should look again, Nolan and Gerrard ffs
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Post by Silvio on Apr 27, 2018 9:30:01 GMT
Great so now we're just going with anyone with a pulse, I've said already my opinion of Lambert has changed but if anyone thinks it would be anything more than just a sideways move manager wise then they should look again, Nolan and Gerrard ffs If you're happy with Lambert and his brand of football then good for you. I think we're hurtling towards lower half championship mediocrity. None of those would be my first pick but I'd hardly call Gerrard anybody with a pulse. He's worked under Klopp and other top modern managers. With an experienced number 2 it might work. Nolan is just an example of a young hungry manager I think we'd be better off with. Lambert's done the square root of fuck all for a decade and back then he had a completely different coaching team. He's yesterday's man.
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Post by Silvio on Apr 27, 2018 9:34:34 GMT
There have to be better options out there than Lambert - I refuse to accept otherwise. I can't stand his dour, incomprehensible press conferences, his daft blue tracksuit, and worst of all his shit tactics, football and substitutions. It's been said 1000 times on here already but he's been a complete failure since he took over - you can't dress up those stats. He's got a better group of players to call upon that Hughes had and he's done worse. (I'm not defending Hughes) The aim should be promotion next year but we'll be lumbered with a manager with no wins since his first game in charge in January (probably), a mostly disillusioned fanbase, and a shit dressing room. A new manager could change at least 2 of those 3 things. If the club are serious about coming up at the first attempt then how about backing one of these... QSF - now out of work. Originally interested to some degree. Let's go back and try again. I don't see any shame in this. Moyes - West ham are a basket case. He might just fancy it here as we are much more in the Preston/Everton mould and he could build something in more stable surroundings. Paul Cook - manager on the up. Graham Potter - a big risk but imo worth taking when the alternative is Lambert. Marco Silva - look at Wolves. Big Sam - probably unrealistic but he might be out of a job in the summer. He doesn't seem to suit more "glamorous" clubs. Big name ex pro like Vieira, Lampard, Neville or Gerrard. Wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea but I would take these guys comfortably over PL. Kevin Nolan - another young manager on the up. Has turned around Notts County. As in January, we are still an attractive proposition to most managers and there are plenty of options about. We weren't an attractive proposition in January - hence why we got Lambert. 10 years in the prem and all the money/attention that brings. Just cos we ballsed it up with QSF doesn't make us unattractive. We panicked and for some unknown reason rescued Paul Lambert from obscurity.
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Post by lordb on Apr 27, 2018 9:34:54 GMT
Who would you get in? I'm struggling for anyone realistic. There have to be better options out there than Lambert - I refuse to accept otherwise. I can't stand his dour, incomprehensible press conferences, his daft blue tracksuit, and worst of all his shit tactics, football and substitutions. It's been said 1000 times on here already but he's been a complete failure since he took over - you can't dress up those stats. He's got a better group of players to call upon that Hughes had and he's done worse. (I'm not defending Hughes) The aim should be promotion next year but we'll be lumbered with a manager with no wins since his first game in charge in January (probably), a mostly disillusioned fanbase, and a shit dressing room. A new manager could change at least 2 of those 3 things. If the club are serious about coming up at the first attempt then how about backing one of these... QSF - now out of work. Originally interested to some degree. Let's go back and try again. I don't see any shame in this. Moyes - West ham are a basket case. He might just fancy it here as we are much more in the Preston/Everton mould and he could build something in more stable surroundings. Paul Cook - manager on the up. Graham Potter - a big risk but imo worth taking when the alternative is Lambert. Marco Silva - look at Wolves. Big Sam - probably unrealistic but he might be out of a job in the summer. He doesn't seem to suit more "glamorous" clubs. Big name ex pro like Vieira, Lampard, Neville or Gerrard. Wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea but I would take these guys comfortably over PL. Kevin Nolan - another young manager on the up. Has turned around Notts County. As in January, we are still an attractive proposition to most managers and there are plenty of options about. What's Marco Silva got to do with Wolves?
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Post by lordb on Apr 27, 2018 9:36:33 GMT
Great so now we're just going with anyone with a pulse, I've said already my opinion of Lambert has changed but if anyone thinks it would be anything more than just a sideways move manager wise then they should look again, Nolan and Gerrard ffs If you're happy with Lambert and his brand of football then good for you. I think we're hurtling towards lower half championship mediocrity. None of those would be my first pick but I'd hardly call Gerrard anybody with a pulse. He's worked under Klopp and other top modern managers. With an experienced number 2 it might work. Nolan is just an example of a young hungry manager I think we'd be better off with. Lambert's done the square root of fuck all for a decade and back then he had a completely different coaching team. He's yesterday's man. Gerrard? On the grounds of what? No rookie managers please. Some good suggestions on this thread but also some unrealistic ones.
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Post by lordb on Apr 27, 2018 9:38:28 GMT
We weren't an attractive proposition in January - hence why we got Lambert. 10 years in the prem and all the money/attention that brings. Just cos we ballsed it up with QSF doesn't make us unattractive. We panicked and for some unknown reason rescued Paul Lambert from obscurity. The reason was we were desperate after being publicly turned down by QSF,Rowett and O'Neill. If Davejonno is correct we were turned down by a big name manager too.
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Post by vahl on Apr 27, 2018 9:53:10 GMT
I feel like he would be a good person to have around Stoke in its current form. He's a visionary and a builder of clubs/teams, a very good one too - I just think he would be ideal. You would probably have to throw a bit of cash at him but if anyone is worth a 2 year contract and if you look at his track record it is impressive. I would put the feelers out there, left up to me. David Moyes would fit like a glove, the more I think about it. I think people would feel a lot more safer in his hands and it's guaranteed that he will build you a Premier League standard team. Let's not forget Peter Coates said "what's all the fuss about" a few weeks before sacking Hughes, but Lambert does seem to think he has the green light to prepare things for next season by his own admission too. That said, Hughes was obviously told he was safe in his job not long before he was fired.
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Post by redstriper on Apr 27, 2018 10:06:45 GMT
I feel like he would be a good person to have around Stoke in its current form. He's a visionary and a builder of clubs/teams, a very good one too - I just think he would be ideal. You would probably have to throw a bit of cash at him but if anyone is worth a 2 year contract and if you look at his track record it is impressive. I would put the feelers out there, left up to me. David Moyes would fit like a glove, the more I think about it. I think people would feel a lot more safer in his hands and it's guaranteed that he will build you a Premier League standard team. Let's not forget Peter Coates said "what's all the fuss about" a few weeks before sacking Hughes, but Lambert does seem to think he has the green light to prepare things for next season by his own admission too. That said, Hughes was obviously told he was safe in his job not long before he was fired. "people would feel a lot safer in his hands ?".. seriously? - which people are you speaking for (apart from yourself obviously) - take a look at his tenure and legacy at Sunderland.
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Post by maliciousdamage on Apr 27, 2018 10:12:46 GMT
There have to be better options out there than Lambert - I refuse to accept otherwise. I can't stand his dour, incomprehensible press conferences, his daft blue tracksuit, and worst of all his shit tactics, football and substitutions. It's been said 1000 times on here already but he's been a complete failure since he took over - you can't dress up those stats. He's got a better group of players to call upon that Hughes had and he's done worse. (I'm not defending Hughes) The aim should be promotion next year but we'll be lumbered with a manager with no wins since his first game in charge in January (probably), a mostly disillusioned fanbase, and a shit dressing room. A new manager could change at least 2 of those 3 things. If the club are serious about coming up at the first attempt then how about backing one of these... QSF - now out of work. Originally interested to some degree. Let's go back and try again. I don't see any shame in this. Moyes - West ham are a basket case. He might just fancy it here as we are much more in the Preston/Everton mould and he could build something in more stable surroundings. Paul Cook - manager on the up. Graham Potter - a big risk but imo worth taking when the alternative is Lambert. Marco Silva - look at Wolves. Big Sam - probably unrealistic but he might be out of a job in the summer. He doesn't seem to suit more "glamorous" clubs. Big name ex pro like Vieira, Lampard, Neville or Gerrard. Wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea but I would take these guys comfortably over PL. Kevin Nolan - another young manager on the up. Has turned around Notts County. As in January, we are still an attractive proposition to most managers and there are plenty of options about. What's Marco Silva got to do with Wolves? Iâm guessing the OP means a foreign manager with a bit of flair but the ability to totally take a club and shake it down top to bottom as Santos has with Wolves Iâve heard Silva is very similar in this respect heâs probably waiting for big Sam to get the boot at Everton though. Personally I would go for Silva or QSF if he will come back to the âfive year planâ I think they are both more than capable of getting us out of the Championship and building a decent team to start to compete again I. The Prem again it would take money to do it no trying to be doing it on the cheap
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Post by vahl on Apr 27, 2018 10:14:31 GMT
I feel like he would be a good person to have around Stoke in its current form. He's a visionary and a builder of clubs/teams, a very good one too - I just think he would be ideal. You would probably have to throw a bit of cash at him but if anyone is worth a 2 year contract and if you look at his track record it is impressive. I would put the feelers out there, left up to me. David Moyes would fit like a glove, the more I think about it. I think people would feel a lot more safer in his hands and it's guaranteed that he will build you a Premier League standard team. Let's not forget Peter Coates said "what's all the fuss about" a few weeks before sacking Hughes, but Lambert does seem to think he has the green light to prepare things for next season by his own admission too. That said, Hughes was obviously told he was safe in his job not long before he was fired. "people would feel a lot safer in his hands ?".. seriously? - which people are you speaking for (apart from yourself obviously) - take a look at his tenure and legacy at Sunderland. Do people actually blame Moyes for Sunderland? Dunno about that. That is also just casually missing out what he did with Preston, Everton and now the West Ham turnaround job on the pitch even though the club is wrecked. His Man Utd spell was as good as LVG's as well I think, although I don't know the actual facts on that one. Moyes would be more than ideal, I think a lot of Stoke fans are level headed and realise that, so yes I speak for others too in a way when I say this. I have in fact seen him getting mentioned for it on this very messageboard.
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Post by leoncort on Apr 27, 2018 10:39:38 GMT
I think we need to distance ourselves from the merrygoround managers, ie big sam etc. Take a risk on a big name ex pro looking to get in to management, someone who's name can attract players to get us back up next season.
I dont mind PL, but he seems out of touch and theres only so far discipline gets you, we need talent and attacking flair. We only have one real chance to rebuild this squad, and i don't trust him to spend wisely, but we shall see.
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Post by lordb on Apr 27, 2018 11:21:02 GMT
re Lambert what's his track record in transfer dealings like? I know he signed Benteke for Villa but can't recall much else.
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Post by Jack Jarvis Esquire on Apr 27, 2018 11:47:45 GMT
Lambert is going no where, if we donât win again this season he will still be here next season.Hes exactly what Coates loves a boring,cheap yes man! Coates has never given a solitary shit what supporters think he will always do what he wants the privilege of being the owner I guess.I mean itâs dreadful now,imagine next season with no Butland,Allen,Shaq replaced by Championship free transfers and young lads on loan from the prem.Lambert is a Pulis clone only not as effective.Hes already starting the working class city wants hard working gritty teams shite.Some fans want a team full of Dean Whitheads some want watch decent football depends what you like about the game.
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Post by thevoid on Apr 27, 2018 11:57:03 GMT
Lambert will not be here come Christmas.
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Post by bambered on Apr 27, 2018 12:22:56 GMT
Lambert will not be here come Christmas. 9pts from the next three games and he will.
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Post by cousindupree on Apr 27, 2018 12:32:05 GMT
re Lambert what's his track record in transfer dealings like? I know he signed Benteke for Villa but can't recall much else. He has a penchant for British players, which pissed off the Wolves owners and was one of the reasons they fired him.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 27, 2018 12:39:01 GMT
Great so now we're just going with anyone with a pulse, I've said already my opinion of Lambert has changed but if anyone thinks it would be anything more than just a sideways move manager wise then they should look again, Nolan and Gerrard ffs If you're happy with Lambert and his brand of football then good for you. I think we're hurtling towards lower half championship mediocrity. None of those would be my first pick but I'd hardly call Gerrard anybody with a pulse. He's worked under Klopp and other top modern managers. With an experienced number 2 it might work. Nolan is just an example of a young hungry manager I think we'd be better off with. Lambert's done the square root of fuck all for a decade and back then he had a completely different coaching team. He's yesterday's man. I'm not overly happy with Lambert but the alternatives are hardly a step up, Gerrard does have some good experience working under other well respected managers and zero experience of actually being one, Nolan looks to have done a decent job but enough to deserve a chance at a club hoping to bounce back up into the Prem I wouldn't say so, our options are limited, personally if Rowett doesn't get Derby up this season I'd hope we'd actually go in for him this time but I don't think thats overly realistic either.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Apr 27, 2018 12:39:02 GMT
Lampard or Gerrard over PL? đ Why not? Gerrard with Gary Mcallister as assistant being linked to Rangers. I'd take that double act over PL any day. Likewise Lampard with an experienced number 2. I reckon both scenarios would have got a better points haul than PL has. Lambert is dire. I don't want Lambert but the suggestion that we take Gerrard (who as far as I know has no managerial experience or coaching badges) is just bonkers. This is the problem with the "anyone but the current manager" approach, there's always someone worse! We need to get the next appointment right or we are fucked
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 27, 2018 12:40:08 GMT
"people would feel a lot safer in his hands ?".. seriously? - which people are you speaking for (apart from yourself obviously) - take a look at his tenure and legacy at Sunderland. Do people actually blame Moyes for Sunderland? Dunno about that. That is also just casually missing out what he did with Preston, Everton and now the West Ham turnaround job on the pitch even though the club is wrecked. His Man Utd spell was as good as LVG's as well I think, although I don't know the actual facts on that one. Moyes would be more than ideal, I think a lot of Stoke fans are level headed and realise that, so yes I speak for others too in a way when I say this. I have in fact seen him getting mentioned for it on this very messageboard. He didn't help himself going in and pretty much writing them off straight away.
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Post by FrankButcher on Apr 27, 2018 12:52:40 GMT
re Lambert what's his track record in transfer dealings like? I know he signed Benteke for Villa but can't recall much else. Aston Villa signings: Ashley Westwood, Libor Kozak, Jed Steer, Leandro Bacuna, Aly Cissokho, Carlos Sanchez and Carles Gil, Ron vlaar, Kieran Richardson, yacouba sylla,Aleksandar Tonev,Nicklas Helenius,Jordan Bowery, Antonio Luna, Joe Cole. (To name a few) Norwich signings: James Vaughan, Steve Morison ,Elliott Bennett, Ritchie De Laet Bradley Johnson Kyle Naughton Daniel Ayala, Jonathan Howson Ryan Bennett His Villa transfer record apart from Benteke was woeful most of those signings were flops and there were all on a shoe string budget the rest were experienced journeymen on free transfers. His Norwich signings weren't anything special either all bang average players however those shown above were his signings during there premier league season.
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Post by Silvio on Apr 27, 2018 13:30:26 GMT
Why not? Gerrard with Gary Mcallister as assistant being linked to Rangers. I'd take that double act over PL any day. Likewise Lampard with an experienced number 2. I reckon both scenarios would have got a better points haul than PL has. Lambert is dire. I don't want Lambert but the suggestion that we take Gerrard (who as far as I know has no managerial experience or coaching badges) is just bonkers. This is the problem with the "anyone but the current manager" approach, there's always someone worse! We need to get the next appointment right or we are fucked I agree with you mate. Let's just hope the powers that be realise that we need a new appointment sooner rather than later. RE Gerrard, I was asked who was available and realistic. He's been in the papers this morning linked with Rangers with McAllister as his no.2. Personally I'd take this over Lambert but I wasn't particularly advocating it. If we're talking hypotheticals then QSF or Silva would do me nicely. As it is, we're probably stuck with Lambo and if there is a change, we can probably expect one of the usual british merry go round.
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Post by metalhead on Apr 27, 2018 13:31:51 GMT
re Lambert what's his track record in transfer dealings like? I know he signed Benteke for Villa but can't recall much else. Aston Villa signings: Ashley Westwood, Libor Kozak, Jed Steer, Leandro Bacuna, Aly Cissokho, Carlos Sanchez and Carles Gil, Ron vlaar, Kieran Richardson, yacouba sylla,Aleksandar Tonev,Nicklas Helenius,Jordan Bowery, Antonio Luna, Joe Cole. (To name a few) Norwich signings: James Vaughan, Steve Morison ,Elliott Bennett, Ritchie De Laet Bradley Johnson Kyle Naughton Daniel Ayala, Jonathan Howson Ryan Bennett His Villa transfer record apart from Benteke was woeful most of those signings were flops and there were all on a shoe string budget the rest were experienced journeymen on free transfers. His Norwich signings weren't anything special either all bang average players however those shown above were his signings during there premier league season. Some decent signings there in my opinion, but doesn't really mean he's the manager to take us back up.
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Post by Silvio on Apr 27, 2018 14:13:03 GMT
There have to be better options out there than Lambert - I refuse to accept otherwise. I can't stand his dour, incomprehensible press conferences, his daft blue tracksuit, and worst of all his shit tactics, football and substitutions. It's been said 1000 times on here already but he's been a complete failure since he took over - you can't dress up those stats. He's got a better group of players to call upon that Hughes had and he's done worse. (I'm not defending Hughes) The aim should be promotion next year but we'll be lumbered with a manager with no wins since his first game in charge in January (probably), a mostly disillusioned fanbase, and a shit dressing room. A new manager could change at least 2 of those 3 things. If the club are serious about coming up at the first attempt then how about backing one of these... QSF - now out of work. Originally interested to some degree. Let's go back and try again. I don't see any shame in this. Moyes - West ham are a basket case. He might just fancy it here as we are much more in the Preston/Everton mould and he could build something in more stable surroundings. Paul Cook - manager on the up. Graham Potter - a big risk but imo worth taking when the alternative is Lambert. Marco Silva - look at Wolves. Big Sam - probably unrealistic but he might be out of a job in the summer. He doesn't seem to suit more "glamorous" clubs. Big name ex pro like Vieira, Lampard, Neville or Gerrard. Wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea but I would take these guys comfortably over PL. Kevin Nolan - another young manager on the up. Has turned around Notts County. As in January, we are still an attractive proposition to most managers and there are plenty of options about. What's Marco Silva got to do with Wolves? Early 40s Portuguese manager with attacking outlook. Much like the Wolves boss, Nuno
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Post by Silvio on Apr 27, 2018 14:25:02 GMT
10 years in the prem and all the money/attention that brings. Just cos we ballsed it up with QSF doesn't make us unattractive. We panicked and for some unknown reason rescued Paul Lambert from obscurity. The reason was we were desperate after being publicly turned down by QSF,Rowett and O'Neill. If Davejonno is correct we were turned down by a big name manager too. Yes we were clearly desperate and made a very poor decision. It was an absolute balls up from the board to get so publicly shafted. I wonder if the fear of this happening again is a driver for keeping Lambert despite his dismal performance... But I still think we're a decent proposition to most managers. A stable club with a solid following coming off the back of 10 yrs in the prem. A full pre season and a reasonable budget for rebuilding could attract somebody superior to PL.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Apr 27, 2018 14:31:52 GMT
Why not? Gerrard with Gary Mcallister as assistant being linked to Rangers. I'd take that double act over PL any day. Likewise Lampard with an experienced number 2. I reckon both scenarios would have got a better points haul than PL has. Lambert is dire. I don't want Lambert but the suggestion that we take Gerrard (who as far as I know has no managerial experience or coaching badges) is just bonkers. This is the problem with the "anyone but the current manager" approach, there's always someone worse! We need to get the next appointment right or we are fucked We are fucked. The next manager needs to 'un-fuck' us. And that's going to take some doing.
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Post by starkiller on Apr 27, 2018 14:58:15 GMT
There have to be better options out there than Lambert - I refuse to accept otherwise. I can't stand his dour, incomprehensible press conferences, his daft blue tracksuit, and worst of all his shit tactics, football and substitutions. It's been said 1000 times on here already but he's been a complete failure since he took over - you can't dress up those stats. He's got a better group of players to call upon that Hughes had and he's done worse. (I'm not defending Hughes) The aim should be promotion next year but we'll be lumbered with a manager with no wins since his first game in charge in January (probably), a mostly disillusioned fanbase, and a shit dressing room. A new manager could change at least 2 of those 3 things. If the club are serious about coming up at the first attempt then how about backing one of these... QSF - now out of work. Originally interested to some degree. Let's go back and try again. I don't see any shame in this. Moyes - West ham are a basket case. He might just fancy it here as we are much more in the Preston/Everton mould and he could build something in more stable surroundings. Paul Cook - manager on the up. Graham Potter - a big risk but imo worth taking when the alternative is Lambert. Marco Silva - look at Wolves. Big Sam - probably unrealistic but he might be out of a job in the summer. He doesn't seem to suit more "glamorous" clubs. Big name ex pro like Vieira, Lampard, Neville or Gerrard. Wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea but I would take these guys comfortably over PL. Kevin Nolan - another young manager on the up. Has turned around Notts County. As in January, we are still an attractive proposition to most managers and there are plenty of options about. We weren't an attractive proposition in January - hence why we got Lambert. Our transfer policy puts them all off. It's that simple.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2018 15:33:52 GMT
What about Potter? QSF? Just a thought or two QSF turned down Premier League Stoke,why would he then take on Championship Stoke? Unrealistic as is Tuchel as was mentioned earlier. Dean Smith,Potter are realistic shouts. However it's absolutely obvious that Lambert will start the season. "However it's absolutely obvious that Lambert will start the season" Well that's my next season ruined! âšī¸đ đđŦ
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Post by musik on Apr 27, 2018 15:44:25 GMT
Klopp said he won't rest any players, so ...
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