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Post by mickstupp on May 31, 2018 15:24:44 GMT
He couldn’t rely on Muniesa. Regardless of his ability the undeniable fact is that the bloke is brittle and too injury prone. You can when you have 5 internationals that can cover him. There wasn’t 5 internationals to cover him at all, stop exaggerating.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 31, 2018 16:04:31 GMT
You can when you have 5 internationals that can cover him. There wasn’t 5 internationals to cover him at all, stop exaggerating. Shawcross, Zouma, Indi, Pieters and Cameron. Literally 5 internationals.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 31, 2018 16:05:59 GMT
Am I reading this right ... Wimmer has agreed to a pay cut from 80k euros to 40k euros per week and Hannover are paying us a 1.5 million euro loan fee? Who is paying his wages?
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Post by robwahlmann on May 31, 2018 16:07:38 GMT
There wasn’t 5 internationals to cover him at all, stop exaggerating. Shawcross, Zouma, Indi, Pieters and Cameron. Literally 5 internationals. ...and the laundry woman, the man in the box office, two in the club shop, hundreds in the car park, yes, anybody but that useless joke of a footballer caled Wimmer!
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Post by parsonage1955 on May 31, 2018 16:16:47 GMT
Credit where credit's due. If only more footballets showed that willingness to put game time before their bank balance. He's taken a pay cut to play football. We're saving a year's wages on him as well as earning 1.5 million Euros as a loan feem Perhaps we'll get half our money back next summer if he does OK. We can hardly blame Wimmer that someone at Stoke thought he was worth £18 million.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 2, 2018 19:48:10 GMT
www.sportbuzzer.de/artikel/hannover-96-neuzugang-kevin-wimmer-stoke-city-harte-zeit/"I'm more of the defender who wants to play the ball from the back." "I made 17 games in the first half of the season, we were not in a relegation spot" "Then came the coaching change. The new coach (Paul Lambert) had a very different idea of football: always long ball forward and then chasing the second ball. " "In the first game under the new coach, I was not even part of the squad. The same in the second game. " When asked what was going on, the coach explained that Wimmer was" not his type of player ". He needs players who lead the relegation battle with their heads through the wall "I want to spend more than a year in the Bundesliga and remain at 96. If possible I do not want to go back to Stoke. "
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Post by chamberlain on Jun 2, 2018 19:53:36 GMT
www.sportbuzzer.de/artikel/hannover-96-neuzugang-kevin-wimmer-stoke-city-harte-zeit/"I'm more of the defender who wants to play the ball from the back." "I made 17 games in the first half of the season, we were not in a relegation spot" "Then came the coaching change. The new coach (Paul Lambert) had a very different idea of football: always long ball forward and then chasing the second ball. " "In the first game under the new coach, I was not even part of the squad. The same in the second game. " When asked what was going on, the coach explained that Wimmer was" not his type of player ". He needs players who lead the relegation battle with their heads through the wall "I want to spend more than a year in the Bundesliga and remain at 96. If possible I do not want to go back to Stoke. " If possible I do not want to go back to Stoke . That’s music to my ears .
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Post by nonameface on Jun 2, 2018 19:56:26 GMT
www.sportbuzzer.de/artikel/hannover-96-neuzugang-kevin-wimmer-stoke-city-harte-zeit/"I'm more of the defender who wants to play the ball from the back." "I made 17 games in the first half of the season, we were not in a relegation spot" "Then came the coaching change. The new coach (Paul Lambert) had a very different idea of football: always long ball forward and then chasing the second ball. " "In the first game under the new coach, I was not even part of the squad. The same in the second game. " When asked what was going on, the coach explained that Wimmer was" not his type of player ". He needs players who lead the relegation battle with their heads through the wall "I want to spend more than a year in the Bundesliga and remain at 96. If possible I do not want to go back to Stoke. " If possible I do not want to go back to Stoke . That’s music to my ears . Likely means he'll be fit and have a decent season, which helps our chances of getting rid.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2018 20:01:31 GMT
"I want to spend more than a year in the Bundesliga and remain at 96. If possible I do not want to go back to Stoke. "
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Jun 2, 2018 20:09:11 GMT
"I want to spend more than a year in the Bundesliga and remain at 96. If possible I do not want to go back to Stoke. " [/quote] Now your talking Kevin!
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Post by smallthorner on Jun 2, 2018 20:13:47 GMT
If possible I do not want to go back to Stoke . That’s music to my ears . Likely means he'll be fit and have a decent season, which helps our chances of getting rid. One thing you have to give the bloke credit for is taking a massive wage cut ( isn't he?) .. and saying it just as it is regarding playing styles. What a mess we've got into. It's going to take some sorting out.
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Post by chamberlain on Jun 2, 2018 20:14:46 GMT
If possible I do not want to go back to Stoke . That’s music to my ears . Likely means he'll be fit and have a decent season, which helps our chances of getting rid. Fingers crossed
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jun 2, 2018 20:23:02 GMT
If he's taken a pay cut and we are not paying his wages this season then fair play to him. He's gone up in my estimation.
If he is as determined as he sounds to get a move away hopefully he will have a good season and get a permanent move to the bundesliga
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 2, 2018 20:23:51 GMT
There wasn’t 5 internationals to cover him at all, stop exaggerating. Shawcross, Zouma, Indi, Pieters and Cameron. Literally 5 internationals. Wrong. Indi was signed on a permanent deal on the same day as MM left to go to Gerona, so how could he cover him when he wasn’t even a Stoke player at the time? Quite honestly, I don’t ever recall Ryan, Cameron or Zouma ever playing on the left of a back three. Come to think of it, I don’t ever remember Pieters playing there either.
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Post by ravey123 on Jun 2, 2018 20:24:36 GMT
www.sportbuzzer.de/artikel/hannover-96-neuzugang-kevin-wimmer-stoke-city-harte-zeit/"I'm more of the defender who wants to play the ball from the back." "I made 17 games in the first half of the season, we were not in a relegation spot" "Then came the coaching change. The new coach (Paul Lambert) had a very different idea of football: always long ball forward and then chasing the second ball. " "In the first game under the new coach, I was not even part of the squad. The same in the second game. " When asked what was going on, the coach explained that Wimmer was" not his type of player ". He needs players who lead the relegation battle with their heads through the wall "I want to spend more than a year in the Bundesliga and remain at 96. If possible I do not want to go back to Stoke. " Well if you dont want to come back fat boy I hope you are not taking any wages from Stoke during your loan
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 2, 2018 20:42:01 GMT
Shawcross, Zouma, Indi, Pieters and Cameron. Literally 5 internationals. Wrong. Indi was signed on a permanent deal on the same day as MM left to go to Gerona, so how could he cover him when he wasn’t even a Stoke player at the time? Quite honestly, I don’t ever recall Ryan, Cameron or Zouma ever playing on the left of a back three. Come to think of it, I don’t ever remember Pieters playing there either. Indi was always going to sign. That was a given (told by loads of different folk who get told stuff). And Muni should never have been let go, that was the biggest mistake as I've said. Letting the best left sided CB for a three we had go was crazy. Indi for me was the best for the centre one. I always hated the idea because it makes your best defender (Shawcross) a bench player. It was all fucked up.
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 2, 2018 20:48:26 GMT
Wrong. Indi was signed on a permanent deal on the same day as MM left to go to Gerona, so how could he cover him when he wasn’t even a Stoke player at the time? Quite honestly, I don’t ever recall Ryan, Cameron or Zouma ever playing on the left of a back three. Come to think of it, I don’t ever remember Pieters playing there either. Indi was always going to sign. That was a given (told by loads of different folk who get told stuff). And Muni should never have been let go, that was the biggest mistake as I've said. Letting the best left sided CB for a three we had go was crazy. Indi for me was the best for the centre one. I always hated the idea because it makes your best defender (Shawcross) a bench player. It was all fucked up. Yeah but that’s going off on a tangent from my original point. Wimmer was a replacement for our main target, Maguire. You disagree, but I’m adamant that he would have been an outstanding signing, and one that, given our options in that position at the time, thoroughly justified. It’s the choice of player that was crap, not the position itself.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jun 2, 2018 20:48:35 GMT
If he's taken a pay cut and we are not paying his wages this season then fair play to him. He's gone up in my estimation. If he is as determined as he sounds to get a move away hopefully he will have a good season and get a permanent move to the bundesliga Where has it/he said he was taking a wage cut. Unless it was triggered as part of a relegation clause I can't see any way he's voluntarily taking a hit. Good old Stoke will still be subbing his wedge
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 2, 2018 20:57:49 GMT
Indi was always going to sign. That was a given (told by loads of different folk who get told stuff). And Muni should never have been let go, that was the biggest mistake as I've said. Letting the best left sided CB for a three we had go was crazy. Indi for me was the best for the centre one. I always hated the idea because it makes your best defender (Shawcross) a bench player. It was all fucked up. Yeah but that’s going off on a tangent from my original point. Wimmer was a replacement for our main target, Maguire. You disagree, but I’m adamant that he would have been an outstanding signing, and one that, given our options in that position at the time, thoroughly justified. It’s the choice of player that was crap, not the position itself. We didn't need another left sided defender once we knew Indi was joining and we knew that all along. Totally unnecessary.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 2, 2018 20:58:05 GMT
If he's taken a pay cut and we are not paying his wages this season then fair play to him. He's gone up in my estimation. If he is as determined as he sounds to get a move away hopefully he will have a good season and get a permanent move to the bundesliga Where has it/he said he was taking a wage cut. Unless it was triggered as part of a relegation clause I can't see any way he's voluntarily taking a hit. Good old Stoke will still be subbing his wedge Page before and also quoted at the top of this page.
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Post by smallthorner on Jun 2, 2018 20:59:21 GMT
If he's taken a pay cut and we are not paying his wages this season then fair play to him. He's gone up in my estimation. If he is as determined as he sounds to get a move away hopefully he will have a good season and get a permanent move to the bundesliga Where has it/he said he was taking a wage cut. Unless it was triggered as part of a relegation clause I can't see any way he's voluntarily taking a hit. Good old Stoke will still be subbing his wedge Not sure Terry.... Thought I'd read it somewhere. Perhaps Fuller Magic can clear that up. 😊
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jun 2, 2018 21:06:18 GMT
Where has it/he said he was taking a wage cut. Unless it was triggered as part of a relegation clause I can't see any way he's voluntarily taking a hit. Good old Stoke will still be subbing his wedge Page before and also quoted at the top of this page. Tnx Paul. You'll have to forgive my skepticism but I don't believe he voluntarily took a 50% wage cut, it would be a rarer than rare current footballer that would do so. He probably had a relegation clause that triggered a wage cut. Would a 50% wage cut be standard for such relegation clauses?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 2, 2018 21:06:18 GMT
Where has it/he said he was taking a wage cut. Unless it was triggered as part of a relegation clause I can't see any way he's voluntarily taking a hit. Good old Stoke will still be subbing his wedge Page before and also quoted at the top of this page. I simply don't believe that. A footballer equipped with agent would never, ever do that. Maybe some loss of bonus entitlement that means he's worse off but 50% worse off? I'd eat my hat.
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Post by smallthorner on Jun 2, 2018 21:10:01 GMT
Page before and also quoted at the top of this page. I simply don't believe that. A footballer equipped with agent would never, ever do that. Maybe some loss of bonus entitlement that means he's worse off but 50% worse off? I'd eat my hat. Have you got One?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 2, 2018 21:25:48 GMT
Page before and also quoted at the top of this page. Tnx Paul. You'll have to forgive my skepticism but I don't believe he voluntarily took a 50% wage cut, it would be a rarer than rare current footballer that would do so. He probably had a relegation clause that triggered a wage cut. Would a 50% wage cut be standard for such relegation clauses? It seems utterly bizarre dosen't it ... and I share your skepticism.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2018 21:32:51 GMT
Am I reading this right ... Wimmer has agreed to a pay cut from 80k euros to 40k euros per week and Hannover are paying us a 1.5 million euro loan fee? Who is paying his wages? Haven't we got a 40% drop inbuilt into every contract? 60% of 80k Euros is around 48k. Assuming his new contract is at that level, is it a simple case of the contract drop, Hanover covering 40k and we are using the 500k of the 1.5M loan fee to cover the other 8k? Is it quite conceivable that the article author hasn't factored that in? Is it conceivable that the article author has got it completely wrong and Hanover are covering everything at the new contract level?
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Post by stokemark on Jun 2, 2018 21:53:51 GMT
unsurprisingly zero acknowledgement that he is an awful defender, Lilly livered coward and quite possibly pound for pound the worst player to ever play for stoke.
No apology no humility - what a cunt he is
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 2, 2018 21:58:43 GMT
I simply don't believe that. A footballer equipped with agent would never, ever do that. Maybe some loss of bonus entitlement that means he's worse off but 50% worse off? I'd eat my hat. Have you got One? A couple!
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 2, 2018 21:59:45 GMT
Am I reading this right ... Wimmer has agreed to a pay cut from 80k euros to 40k euros per week and Hannover are paying us a 1.5 million euro loan fee? Who is paying his wages? Haven't we got a 40% drop inbuilt into every contract? 60% of 80k Euros is around 48k. Assuming his new contract is at that level, is it a simple case of the contract drop, Hanover covering 40k and we are using the 500k of the 1.5M loan fee to cover the other 8k? Is it quite conceivable that the article author hasn't factored that in? Is it conceivable that the article author has got it completely wrong and Hanover are covering everything at the new contract level? Very sound math's mate. But who knows? However, if for the next 12 months, we aren't having to pay any of Kevin Wimmer's wages, then ... happy days!
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jun 2, 2018 22:00:46 GMT
unsurprisingly zero acknowledgement that he is an awful defender, Lilly livered coward and quite possibly pound for pound the worst player to ever play for stoke. No apology no humility - what a cunt he is You think he's worse that Be a Rhino??? I think he'll turn out to be a better than average defender
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