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Post by starkiller on May 28, 2018 7:21:26 GMT
A big 'fuck off' to the useless cunt.
That sack of shit, Berahino, next please.
Both of these cunts will be way out their depth in the Championship.
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Post by biglad180 on May 28, 2018 7:24:14 GMT
we should hope he does well for them to get some of coateses money back
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Post by FullerMagic on May 28, 2018 7:30:28 GMT
Bauer on Wimmer...
"We only once stood together on the field, on my debut, shortly after my signature, the coach was sacked, and under the new coach, Kevin has never been in the squad, and it can not be! Not if you're not injured I'm terribly sorry for him, he does not deserve that because he's really a class player and also a very fine guy, but now I'm happy for him that there will be a change in the summer. "
Must admit, I don't get the impression that he's a wanker behind the scenes (although obvs I don't know!)
Bauer defends him on that score too.
And he did fine in Cologne where he was rated.
He was a completely unnecessary and ridiculous signing, but quite why he's been treated as public enemy number one publicly is all very odd.
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Post by jeycov on May 28, 2018 7:37:52 GMT
Bauer on Wimmer... "We only once stood together on the field, on my debut, shortly after my signature, the coach was sacked, and under the new coach, Kevin has never been in the squad, and it can not be! Not if you're not injured I'm terribly sorry for him, he does not deserve that because he's really a class player and also a very fine guy, but now I'm happy for him that there will be a change in the summer. " Must admit, I don't get the impression that he's a wanker behind the scenes (although obvs I don't know!) Bauer defends him on that score too. And he did fine in Cologne where he was rated. He was a completely unnecessary and ridiculous signing, but quite why he's been treated as public enemy number one publicly is all very odd. Another “panic” buy right at the end of a transfer window ( Imbula was the same) was this bowing to the pressure to buy someone regardless of their suitability? Once he spoke to his ex teammates at Spurs, he wasn’t going to get much of a chance- and other than 1 game he was struggling ( not that his fellow defenders covered themselves in glory) Hope he makes a success of the loan and maybe returns? Who knows
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 28, 2018 7:56:14 GMT
Bauer on Wimmer... "We only once stood together on the field, on my debut, shortly after my signature, the coach was sacked, and under the new coach, Kevin has never been in the squad, and it can not be! Not if you're not injured I'm terribly sorry for him, he does not deserve that because he's really a class player and also a very fine guy, but now I'm happy for him that there will be a change in the summer. " Must admit, I don't get the impression that he's a wanker behind the scenes (although obvs I don't know!) Bauer defends him on that score too. And he did fine in Cologne where he was rated. He was a completely unnecessary and ridiculous signing, but quite why he's been treated as public enemy number one publicly is all very odd. I think he has been scapegoated a bit and it wasn't his fault that some idiot valued him at over three times his actual worth but then I think about his actions at Wembley against Spurs and it still makes me absolutely fucking livid to this day!
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Post by harryburrows on May 28, 2018 8:02:36 GMT
Bauer on Wimmer... "We only once stood together on the field, on my debut, shortly after my signature, the coach was sacked, and under the new coach, Kevin has never been in the squad, and it can not be! Not if you're not injured I'm terribly sorry for him, he does not deserve that because he's really a class player and also a very fine guy, but now I'm happy for him that there will be a change in the summer. " Must admit, I don't get the impression that he's a wanker behind the scenes (although obvs I don't know!) Bauer defends him on that score too. And he did fine in Cologne where he was rated. He was a completely unnecessary and ridiculous signing, but quite why he's been treated as public enemy number one publicly is all very odd. I think he has been scapegoated a bit and it wasn't his fault that some idiot valued him at over three times his actual worth but then I think about his actions at Wembley against Spurs and it still makes me absolutely fucking livid to this day! What did he do ?
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2018 8:06:08 GMT
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Post by PolPotter on May 28, 2018 8:08:28 GMT
Ref the Spurs game - If what was said about Wimmer is true then it just shows how much he cared. It's great news that he's out.
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Post by adi on May 28, 2018 8:54:17 GMT
Bauer on Wimmer... "We only once stood together on the field, on my debut, shortly after my signature, the coach was sacked, and under the new coach, Kevin has never been in the squad, and it can not be! Not if you're not injured I'm terribly sorry for him, he does not deserve that because he's really a class player and also a very fine guy, but now I'm happy for him that there will be a change in the summer. " Must admit, I don't get the impression that he's a wanker behind the scenes (although obvs I don't know!) Bauer defends him on that score too. And he did fine in Cologne where he was rated. He was a completely unnecessary and ridiculous signing, but quite why he's been treated as public enemy number one publicly is all very odd. For me it was clear to see how unfit he was. Made himself unpickable and left us needing more cover. All for a big chunk of our budget that needed spending elsewhere. Whilst his fee wasn’t his choosing, his lack of fitness is.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 28, 2018 9:41:34 GMT
Yes and that was all part of the fuck up. Zouma Indi Muni Cameron Shawcross Pieters New right back Bardsley Edwards New left back Pieters Muni Tymon Is what should have happened or Maguire for Zouma. But we shouldn't have gone for that God forsaken formation anyway. Signing another CB and not full backs was a massive fuck up. Signing a CB for 18m wasting the money you got for your attack was a massive fuck up. Letting your best suited CB to the formation you want to play go out on loan was a massive fuck up. It was all so unnecessary with what we had. I agree with all of that, but it’s not really what we are debating is it? Personal thoughts aside, the manager wanted to play 3-5-2 and that was that, regardless of how daft it was and how unsuitable it was to you, me and most other supporters. So, with the managers preference in mind, and the undisputed fact that we had defenders on the books that were, and still are, injury prone, I think he was right to go for another left sided central defender. It’s his choice of defender that’s the issue really (although I have stated in another thread that Wimmer is better than most give him credit for). And I don't as it showed. Especially as he let the best left sided CB we have for a back 3 go which was just stupid.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 28, 2018 9:44:15 GMT
Bauer on Wimmer... "We only once stood together on the field, on my debut, shortly after my signature, the coach was sacked, and under the new coach, Kevin has never been in the squad, and it can not be! Not if you're not injured I'm terribly sorry for him, he does not deserve that because he's really a class player and also a very fine guy, but now I'm happy for him that there will be a change in the summer. " Must admit, I don't get the impression that he's a wanker behind the scenes (although obvs I don't know!) Bauer defends him on that score too. And he did fine in Cologne where he was rated. He was a completely unnecessary and ridiculous signing, but quite why he's been treated as public enemy number one publicly is all very odd. It all stems from the social media stuff doesn't it? Which is laughable in itself. He's then been the figurehead for operation blame Hughes and people have bought it hook, line and sinker. I can get if you think he's crap but this hatred of a player that bar a few social media posts to his mates (who fucking cares) has done nowt wrong.
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Post by superheroantonius on May 28, 2018 10:08:12 GMT
I saw Coventry v stoke And I can honestly say... That despite both being on the pitch , wimmer and berahino did nothing for the entire match
Did not run for the ball , tackle an opponent or do anything
For me , they compete with each other for being the worst player to ever wear a stoke Shirt They make the likes of dicko and cresser look like world beaters ...at least they tried
Glad he has gone Berahino next please Let's make a fresh start
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Post by mickstupp on May 28, 2018 10:09:08 GMT
I agree with all of that, but it’s not really what we are debating is it? Personal thoughts aside, the manager wanted to play 3-5-2 and that was that, regardless of how daft it was and how unsuitable it was to you, me and most other supporters. So, with the managers preference in mind, and the undisputed fact that we had defenders on the books that were, and still are, injury prone, I think he was right to go for another left sided central defender. It’s his choice of defender that’s the issue really (although I have stated in another thread that Wimmer is better than most give him credit for). And I don't as it showed. Especially as he let the best left sided CB we have for a back 3 go which was just stupid. He couldn’t rely on Muniesa. Regardless of his ability the undeniable fact is that the bloke is brittle and too injury prone.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 28, 2018 10:19:19 GMT
And I don't as it showed. Especially as he let the best left sided CB we have for a back 3 go which was just stupid. He couldn’t rely on Muniesa. Regardless of his ability the undeniable fact is that the bloke is brittle and too injury prone. You can when you have 5 internationals that can cover him.
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Post by itsmorethanagame on May 28, 2018 10:26:09 GMT
Bauer on Wimmer... "We only once stood together on the field, on my debut, shortly after my signature, the coach was sacked, and under the new coach, Kevin has never been in the squad, and it can not be! Not if you're not injured I'm terribly sorry for him, he does not deserve that because he's really a class player and also a very fine guy, but now I'm happy for him that there will be a change in the summer. " Must admit, I don't get the impression that he's a wanker behind the scenes (although obvs I don't know!) Bauer defends him on that score too. And he did fine in Cologne where he was rated. He was a completely unnecessary and ridiculous signing, but quite why he's been treated as public enemy number one publicly is all very odd. It all stems from the social media stuff doesn't it? Which is laughable in itself. He's then been the figurehead for operation blame Hughes and people have bought it hook, line and sinker. I can get if you think he's crap but this hatred of a player that bar a few social media posts to his mates (who fucking cares) has done nowt wrong. Your constant defence of Wimmer whilst having regularly criticised model professionals in the past is bizarre Bayern. You thought he was a good signing last summer and despite all evidence that we have seen with our own eyes, continue to insist he’s a good player. You seem to pass off his lack of fitness as a minor thing and shrug it off. Athleticism and fitness for a centre half is pretty key! That a guy on 70k a week and a professional footballer can’t keep himself fully fit is shameful. And you can’t just pin it on Lambert as it was Hughes who signed him and swiftly dropped him. When he was playing in the under 23’s we took a number of drubbings with Wimmer at the back. How much slack do you want to give the man? The club have every right to use Wimmer (and the obvious others) as scapegoats as they signed him in good faith and he’s failed to fulfill the very basic requirement of keeping himself fit. Of course you would hope he’s a better player than he’s shown with us and surely he must be. But any chance to move him on is the correct one as he hasn’t shown the professionalism we require.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on May 28, 2018 10:47:26 GMT
Bauer on Wimmer... "We only once stood together on the field, on my debut, shortly after my signature, the coach was sacked, and under the new coach, Kevin has never been in the squad, and it can not be! Not if you're not injured I'm terribly sorry for him, he does not deserve that because he's really a class player and also a very fine guy, but now I'm happy for him that there will be a change in the summer. " Must admit, I don't get the impression that he's a wanker behind the scenes (although obvs I don't know!) Bauer defends him on that score too. And he did fine in Cologne where he was rated. He was a completely unnecessary and ridiculous signing, but quite why he's been treated as public enemy number one publicly is all very odd. It all stems from the social media stuff doesn't it? Which is laughable in itself. He's then been the figurehead for operation blame Hughes and people have bought it hook, line and sinker. I can get if you think he's crap but this hatred of a player that bar a few social media posts to his mates (who fucking cares) has done nowt wrong. Ignoring social media stuff, it is the frustration at weaknesses in his game, the basics, that made me angry. He ball-watches. Doesn't track his man. Weak in the tackle or sometimes doesn't tackle (huddersfield away a prime example). He lacks intensity and cannot compete physically, for instance the amount of times he's been rolled by his man. Some of that stuff can't be coached, it is just basic stuff. Having said that I am intrigued and would have preferred to see if rowett could have sorted out some of these issues since he was a good centre back himself
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 28, 2018 11:17:50 GMT
It all stems from the social media stuff doesn't it? Which is laughable in itself. He's then been the figurehead for operation blame Hughes and people have bought it hook, line and sinker. I can get if you think he's crap but this hatred of a player that bar a few social media posts to his mates (who fucking cares) has done nowt wrong. Your constant defence of Wimmer whilst having regularly criticised model professionals in the past is bizarre Bayern. You thought he was a good signing last summer and despite all evidence that we have seen with our own eyes, continue to insist he’s a good player. You seem to pass off his lack of fitness as a minor thing and shrug it off. Athleticism and fitness for a centre half is pretty key! That a guy on 70k a week and a professional footballer can’t keep himself fully fit is shameful. And you can’t just pin it on Lambert as it was Hughes who signed him and swiftly dropped him. When he was playing in the under 23’s we took a number of drubbings with Wimmer at the back. How much slack do you want to give the man? The club have every right to use Wimmer (and the obvious others) as scapegoats as they signed him in good faith and he’s failed to fulfill the very basic requirement of keeping himself fit. Of course you would hope he’s a better player than he’s shown with us and surely he must be. But any chance to move him on is the correct one as he hasn’t shown the professionalism we require. I didn't think he was a good signing at all. I said from the off it was pointless and wasn't needed. I always thought he was a decent player but not a good signing. Big difference. I don't pass it off at all, it was disgraceful but Hughes allowed it and the club signed him in that state. He's got fit since January and that's to be applauded surely? They don't, it was the board who allowed him to sign, they have passed the buck and have treated him pretty appallingly really.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 28, 2018 11:24:06 GMT
It all stems from the social media stuff doesn't it? Which is laughable in itself. He's then been the figurehead for operation blame Hughes and people have bought it hook, line and sinker. I can get if you think he's crap but this hatred of a player that bar a few social media posts to his mates (who fucking cares) has done nowt wrong. Ignoring social media stuff, it is the frustration at weaknesses in his game, the basics, that made me angry. He ball-watches. Doesn't track his man. Weak in the tackle or sometimes doesn't tackle (huddersfield away a prime example). He lacks intensity and cannot compete physically, for instance the amount of times he's been rolled by his man. Some of that stuff can't be coached, it is just basic stuff. Having said that I am intrigued and would have preferred to see if rowett could have sorted out some of these issues since he was a good centre back himself I totally get that and it's very fair criticism. The thing that really shocked me is that he can't get off the ground but I was hoping that was down to being a fat bastard! 😂
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Post by Olgrligm on May 28, 2018 11:26:15 GMT
Bauer on Wimmer... "We only once stood together on the field, on my debut, shortly after my signature, the coach was sacked, and under the new coach, Kevin has never been in the squad, and it can not be! Not if you're not injured I'm terribly sorry for him, he does not deserve that because he's really a class player and also a very fine guy, but now I'm happy for him that there will be a change in the summer. " Must admit, I don't get the impression that he's a wanker behind the scenes (although obvs I don't know!) Bauer defends him on that score too. And he did fine in Cologne where he was rated. He was a completely unnecessary and ridiculous signing, but quite why he's been treated as public enemy number one publicly is all very odd. This is why I don't think Rowett had any say here. The men at the top seem to be hanging him out to dry.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 29, 2018 5:37:49 GMT
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Post by musik on May 29, 2018 5:50:24 GMT
Well, let's see how he does w Bauer tomorrow vs Russia and on Sat vs Germany.
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Post by TexasPotter on May 29, 2018 6:24:29 GMT
THANK FUCK! Woooo yete yete !
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Post by adamsson on May 29, 2018 9:11:21 GMT
THANK FUCK! Woooo yete yete ! Thing is who are going hate next?
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on May 29, 2018 20:12:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2018 20:18:18 GMT
What an absolute non story that article is.
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Post by tony1234 on May 29, 2018 20:22:20 GMT
Bauer on Wimmer... "We only once stood together on the field, on my debut, shortly after my signature, the coach was sacked, and under the new coach, Kevin has never been in the squad, and it can not be! Not if you're not injured I'm terribly sorry for him, he does not deserve that because he's really a class player and also a very fine guy, but now I'm happy for him that there will be a change in the summer. " Must admit, I don't get the impression that he's a wanker behind the scenes (although obvs I don't know!) Bauer defends him on that score too. And he did fine in Cologne where he was rated. He was a completely unnecessary and ridiculous signing, but quite why he's been treated as public enemy number one publicly is all very odd. I think he has been scapegoated a bit and it wasn't his fault that some idiot valued him at over three times his actual worth but then I think about his actions at Wembley against Spurs and it still makes me absolutely fucking livid to this day! Let's hope so - does OK for Hannover and settle up for a decent fee at the end of the year. Whether we are coming back up, or staying in the Champs at that point, it will a very useful 10m!
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Post by adi on May 30, 2018 15:41:05 GMT
Bauer on Wimmer... "We only once stood together on the field, on my debut, shortly after my signature, the coach was sacked, and under the new coach, Kevin has never been in the squad, and it can not be! Not if you're not injured I'm terribly sorry for him, he does not deserve that because he's really a class player and also a very fine guy, but now I'm happy for him that there will be a change in the summer. " Must admit, I don't get the impression that he's a wanker behind the scenes (although obvs I don't know!) Bauer defends him on that score too. And he did fine in Cologne where he was rated. He was a completely unnecessary and ridiculous signing, but quite why he's been treated as public enemy number one publicly is all very odd. It all stems from the social media stuff doesn't it? Which is laughable in itself. He's then been the figurehead for operation blame Hughes and people have bought it hook, line and sinker. I can get if you think he's crap but this hatred of a player that bar a few social media posts to his mates (who fucking cares) has done nowt wrong. Are you saying that his lack of fitness isn’t his own fault? That’s the biggest thing he’s done wrong, and a cardinal sin as a top level footballer. Even if you’re not being picked, letting your personal fitness get to that level is atrocious.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 30, 2018 15:46:33 GMT
It all stems from the social media stuff doesn't it? Which is laughable in itself. He's then been the figurehead for operation blame Hughes and people have bought it hook, line and sinker. I can get if you think he's crap but this hatred of a player that bar a few social media posts to his mates (who fucking cares) has done nowt wrong. Are you saying that his lack of fitness isn’t his own fault? That’s the biggest thing he’s done wrong, and a cardinal sin as a top level footballer. Even if you’re not being picked, letting your personal fitness get to that level is atrocious. Of course that's his issue. But the club signed him and he was overweight. The club (Hughes and co) allowed him to remain that way. That shouldn't have been allowed. Look at the photo of him signing for Hannover, he clearly lost the lbs in the last few months. It's what can happen when you sign players who haven't had a pre-season I guess.
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Post by adi on May 30, 2018 15:48:02 GMT
Are you saying that his lack of fitness isn’t his own fault? That’s the biggest thing he’s done wrong, and a cardinal sin as a top level footballer. Even if you’re not being picked, letting your personal fitness get to that level is atrocious. Of course that's his issue. But the club signed him and he was overweight. The club (Hughes and co) allowed him to remain that way. That shouldn't have been allowed. Look at the photo of him signing for Hannover, he clearly lost the lbs in the last few months. It's what can happen when you sign players who haven't had a pre-season I guess. Sad but true, hopefully has a good season and we get most of our money back.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 30, 2018 15:49:08 GMT
Of course that's his issue. But the club signed him and he was overweight. The club (Hughes and co) allowed him to remain that way. That shouldn't have been allowed. Look at the photo of him signing for Hannover, he clearly lost the lbs in the last few months. It's what can happen when you sign players who haven't had a pre-season I guess. Sad but true, hopefully has a good season and we get most of our money back. There's no chance they sign him imo. Their Chairman isn't happy already with the deal.
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