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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 23, 2018 20:42:43 GMT
Coates is the main reason we're in this mess. That's true, he's definitely the main reason that we're in the Premier League. He is and he got great plaudits for it. And he should get criticism when he has massively fucked something so inevitable up.
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 23, 2018 20:47:36 GMT
That's true, he's definitely the main reason that we're in the Premier League. He is and he got great plaudits for it. And he should get criticism when he has massively fucked something so inevitable up. Criticism is fine. Banners that try to portray him as some latter day Jim Callaghan or the bizarre 'sack the board' thread go too far, though. If you were one of the Coates family and saw that banner, would you not be even slightly reminded of 1997, and be tempted to think 'sod this lot, I'm selling up to some dodgy foreigner and calling in my debts'?
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Post by ParaPsych on Apr 23, 2018 20:51:21 GMT
Others have pointed out the grammar. Now it's one thing getting this stuff wrong in a messageboard post quickly tapped out on a phone, I've done it many times myself, probably even in this post. But if you genuinely care about this issue enough to make a banner at least put some fucking effort in. It makes the perpetrators just look like dumb attention seekers, plus it will make us all look like fucking morons on Match of the Day.
I'm probably being totally unreasonable but I find it infuriating.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 23, 2018 20:51:26 GMT
He is and he got great plaudits for it. And he should get criticism when he has massively fucked something so inevitable up. Criticism is fine. Banners that try to portray him as some latter day Jim Callaghan or the bizarre 'sack the board' thread go too far, though. If you were one of the Coates family and saw that banner, would you not be even slightly reminded of 1997, and be tempted to think 'sod this lot, I'm selling up to some dodgy foreigner and calling in my debts'? The banner is a piss take over a quite ridiculous quote. I really can't see the fuss.....see what I did there? I wouldn't give a shit and indeed being the piss taking cunt I am I would probably mock my old man for such things! 😂
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Post by Trouserdog on Apr 23, 2018 20:51:39 GMT
He's fucked up- but I don't see the point in rubbing his nose in it. People make mistakes. I'd rather have Coates as owner than some foreign consortium who don't give a fuck about us or the team. Coates loves the club and will be as pissed off as anyone that we're going down, I'm absolutely sure of that.
We need to support the club at the moment not start trying to piss off the bloke whose money got us to The Prem and kept us there for 10 years. He's our best bet of getting back there, and even though I don't want him to keep Lambert as manager, I didn't want him to bring Pulis back either and that turned out OK.
Also, how you can go to all the trouble of making that and not bother including the apostrophe or the question mark is beyond me. I'd be embarrassed to hold it up to be honest.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Apr 23, 2018 20:54:43 GMT
He's fucked up- but I don't see the point in rubbing his nose in it. People make mistakes. I'd rather have Coates as owner than some foreign consortium who don't give a fuck about us or the team. Coates loves the club and will be as pissed off as anyone that we're going down, I'm absolutely sure of that. We need to support the club at the moment not start trying to piss off the bloke whose money got us to The Prem and kept us there for 10 years. He's our best bet of getting back there, and even though I don't want him to keep Lambert as manager, I didn't want him to bring Pulis back either and that turned out OK. Also, how you can go to all the trouble of making that and not bother including the apostrophe or the question mark is beyond me. I'd be embarrassed to hold it up to be honest. Whyd you be embarrassed
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Post by Davef on Apr 23, 2018 20:56:53 GMT
He's fucked up- but I don't see the point in rubbing his nose in it. People make mistakes. I'd rather have Coates as owner than some foreign consortium who don't give a fuck about us or the team. Coates loves the club and will be as pissed off as anyone that we're going down, I'm absolutely sure of that. We need to support the club at the moment not start trying to piss off the bloke whose money got us to The Prem and kept us there for 10 years. He's our best bet of getting back there, and even though I don't want him to keep Lambert as manager, I didn't want him to bring Pulis back either and that turned out OK. Also, how you can go to all the trouble of making that and not bother including the apostrophe or the question mark is beyond me. I'd be embarrassed to hold it up to be honest. Whyd you be embarrassed He's explained why in his final paragraph.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Apr 23, 2018 20:58:03 GMT
He's explained why in his final paragraph. Jesus Dave, you worked a long shift today or something?
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 23, 2018 20:58:18 GMT
Criticism is fine. Banners that try to portray him as some latter day Jim Callaghan or the bizarre 'sack the board' thread go too far, though. If you were one of the Coates family and saw that banner, would you not be even slightly reminded of 1997, and be tempted to think 'sod this lot, I'm selling up to some dodgy foreigner and calling in my debts'? The banner is a piss take over a quite ridiculous quote. I really can't see the fuss.....see what I did there? I wouldn't give a shit and indeed being the piss taking cunt I am I would probably mock my old man for such things! 😂 I never really saw the fuss (ho ho ho) about the quote in the first place, largely because I had absolutely no expectation that he was being honest or trying to do anything except take the heat off his manager. Why would you ever be honest with the press in football? It's working really well for Smurf.
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Post by Davef on Apr 23, 2018 21:00:37 GMT
He's explained why in his final paragraph. Jesus Dave, you worked a long shift today or something? Ha, ha. Fair play, you got me.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 23, 2018 21:06:17 GMT
The banner is a piss take over a quite ridiculous quote. I really can't see the fuss.....see what I did there? I wouldn't give a shit and indeed being the piss taking cunt I am I would probably mock my old man for such things! 😂 I never really saw the fuss (ho ho ho) about the quote in the first place, largely because I had absolutely no expectation that he was being honest or trying to do anything except take the heat off his manager. Why would you ever be honest with the press in football? It's working really well for Smurf. He shouldn't speak to the press period.
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Post by nott1 on Apr 23, 2018 21:11:55 GMT
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Post by Davef on Apr 23, 2018 21:15:29 GMT
I never really saw the fuss (ho ho ho) about the quote in the first place, largely because I had absolutely no expectation that he was being honest or trying to do anything except take the heat off his manager. Why would you ever be honest with the press in football? It's working really well for Smurf. He shouldn't speak to the press period. Or maybe the Sentinel should start seeking out the opinions of others at the club? Ringing Peter seems to be the easy, lazy option doesn't it? Why aren't they badgering Tony Scholes, Jon Coates or even Mark Cartwright? That's the Chief Executive, Vice-Chairman and Techinical Director of a Premier League club who've had very little, if anything, to say for themselves this season.
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Post by baltipiesmuggler on Apr 23, 2018 21:17:49 GMT
I'd much rather just see 'Scholes/Cartwright/any of a good number of playing staff Out' but I get the sentiment.
You can't come out with some of the claptrap he does and not expect a reaction eventually.
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Post by riproarer on Apr 23, 2018 21:18:01 GMT
Just NO...
we all know that the board has imploded and taken us all with it, but coates deserves some respect. Without his Family we wouldn't have had the opportunity to royally screw it up.
It wasn't so long ago I was ast Scunthorpe away watching an Icelandic owned team play in front of 5000. At least he gave us 10 years of Prem Football.
I'm still hopeful of Survival anyway..... Come on Stoke
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 23, 2018 21:18:14 GMT
He shouldn't speak to the press period. Or maybe the Sentinel should start seeking out the opinions of others at the club? Ringing Peter seems to be the easy, lazy option doesn't it? Why aren't they badgering Tony Scholes, Jon Coates or even Mark Cartwright? That's the Chief Executive, Vice-Chairman and Techinical Director of a Premier League club who've had very little, if anything, to say for themselves this season. Very true but I'd imagine they're all pretty sensible.
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Post by baltipiesmuggler on Apr 23, 2018 21:18:33 GMT
He shouldn't speak to the press period. Or maybe the Sentinel should start seeking out the opinions of others at the club? Ringing Peter seems to be the easy, lazy option doesn't it? Why aren't they badgering Tony Scholes, Jon Coates or even Mark Cartwright? That's the Chief Executive, Vice-Chairman and Techinical Director of a Premier League club who've had very little, if anything, to say for themselves this season. Nailed it.
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Post by stokemark on Apr 23, 2018 21:22:11 GMT
After tonight’s statement anything goes
I am bitterly disappointing in Peters comments and obvious 2 fingers up to the supporters
The old Peter is back with avengence after 2 years of self sufficient ineptitude
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 23, 2018 21:26:08 GMT
We are all devastated but that's verging on mardarsery.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 21:28:20 GMT
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Post by tardelli on Apr 23, 2018 21:30:50 GMT
Disrespectful, uncalled for. We really do have some cry baby fans. Football is football, you have highs and lows, promotions and relegations. It’s the nature of the beast. Our chairman has given us a great decade of supporting Stoke and deserves more respect. Big mistakes have been made and the board will be well aware of that. The club is forking out 100’s of thousands a week on wasters who they paid millions for. They don’t need their noses rubbing in it. Coates might have made mistakes but it was only with our best intentions at heart. Despite mistakes being made, I wouldn’t change our owners for anyone. This is 100 per cent correct . I spoke to Peter Coates on Sunday and he was as hurt as an of us. His vilification on here is absolute disgraceful . Full stop.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Apr 23, 2018 21:36:42 GMT
Who knows what will happen in the future and wouldn’t we all love a crystal ball, but this is the typical city of Stoke on Trent attitude....yes sir, no sir, we know our place, careful what you wish for and it’s wrong to aspire to be better and second best is ok. For such a working class area we aren’t half good at playing our role in the owner and worker relationship. I don’t think for one moment the grass is always greener, but to follow through blind loyalty when you get let down has some significant risks. Excellent post
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Post by ChesterStokie on Apr 23, 2018 22:07:56 GMT
Neither can I. It must have been taken down.
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Post by itsajoytobeapotter on Apr 23, 2018 22:09:22 GMT
just a thought but if he gets abuse he then thinks fuck it they can all go to hell I dont need this shit at my age ,or we give him the thanks he deserves for the the last 10 years he might just think these supporters deserve better then these last few years and back us with everything needed to get back up ,just think back to the guys face in the stand when we clinched promotion ,he was one very happy man that day I don't really think that he gives a shit about the supporters to be honest.
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 23, 2018 22:16:16 GMT
Old man Coates has been a blessing for us second time around...but he’s never, ever liked criticism or anyone questioning his decisions. Very cantankerous and stubborn at times, and his “can’t see this fuss” comment is classic Coates at his worst I’m afraid.
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Post by mcw on Apr 23, 2018 22:40:12 GMT
Don’t get it- the guy is a stoke fan and has put his heart and soul into this. He is immensely wealthy, but unfortunately not on the same level as all these assholes that are just buying up premier league clubs for kudos or a way to stash away their money in a “safe” investment. The problem with the assholes is once their vanity projects or investments go sour they are often trying to run for the hills- Sunderland being an example, Villa another. What we have is as good as it gets I’m afraid, so yes let’s all piss off the owners and reap what we sow- Icelandic consortium anyone? Building up the academy, self-sufficiency were all noble goals aimed at setting the club up for chippy future waters. That may not have worked this time round, but I have every faith this owner is looking at the bigger picture and sees relegation as a blip in a longer term plan.
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Apr 23, 2018 22:57:54 GMT
He is and he got great plaudits for it. And he should get criticism when he has massively fucked something so inevitable up. Criticism is fine. Banners that try to portray him as some latter day Jim Callaghan or the bizarre 'sack the board' thread go too far, though. If you were one of the Coates family and saw that banner, would you not be even slightly reminded of 1997, and be tempted to think 'sod this lot, I'm selling up to some dodgy foreigner and calling in my debts'? This. It's just predicating Denise's and the rest of the family's reservations about PC getting involved with Stoke again after the acrimony of his last spell. Agree with you re the "What's all the fuss about..." comment too: merely a leader figure attempting to inject some composure into the febrile mix,misguided granted,but not engendered of the arrogant,venal buffoonery people are accusing PC of displaying.
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Post by Northy on Apr 24, 2018 4:41:20 GMT
Change it to 'scholes out'
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Post by PotteringThrough on Apr 24, 2018 6:03:48 GMT
I'm not a fan of it. I would imagine he already knows what a stupid statement it was and now he's probably suffering like the rest of us with the relegation. Granted he's got a say in what goes on and most people could see what was going on. But that's what is so damn good about hindsight. I've changed my mind now having seen his latest interview in the sentinel. Let him have it.
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Post by nott1 on Apr 24, 2018 6:26:07 GMT
Change it to 'scholes out' What good would it do to sack an admin. man?
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