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Post by terryconroysmagic on Apr 23, 2018 19:06:14 GMT
So what are you advocating for Bayern. - PC to step down and JC to step up? - other changes? - or change of owners If the latter, I can't see us being an attractive proposition to some spendthrift billionaire. Imagine us be owned by a richer version of the Vale clown! Why aren't we an attractive proposition? I didn't say we weren't, I said that potential buyers might not see us as such: - Do we own the ground? - Not recognised as a "pedigree" club - Just been relegated - "small" matchday attendance - no significant sponsorship deals in place (that I'm aware of) outside of Bet365
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Post by Cast no shadow on Apr 23, 2018 19:07:15 GMT
If it was ‘coates out’ i’d object, but surely this is stating that this is what the fuss was about, that us fans were right.
Will cause fighting in stand.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 23, 2018 19:07:29 GMT
The banner is fine.......
Fucking joke
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Apr 23, 2018 19:11:46 GMT
A dilemma for sure they have done a lot for the club , nobody else locally can or will do it but they have totally fucked up over the past couple of seasons.
I think fans are totally allowed to challenge the decisions made but to protest against them as owners NAH.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 19:12:52 GMT
Can't say I'm comfortable with it. If the result is that he fires off a round of fucks to those throughout the club, who've let him down, out of embarrassment, OK.
But if he massively takes umbrage, it'll potentially do more harm than good.
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Post by felonious on Apr 23, 2018 19:13:36 GMT
I think Sir Peter should hold up his own banner. Something like....
Without my input 17,000 of you wouldn't be here.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Apr 23, 2018 19:13:53 GMT
Mistakes have been made & things need to change but give me local ownership over every other scenario every time, i for one am very proud to have a guy who actually is supporter of my wonderful if infuriating football club. No need for the banner in my opinion, he deserves every chance to do better & as davejohnno says just above, a lot of our issues have arisen from too much loyalty, there very same loyalty which i do not mind admitting has bought a tear to my eye at certain points in the last few years, the Delap broken leg for example. Post-mortem by all means, witch hunt not necessary. Perhaps it would mean the world to PC if we made a "Thank You for a Great 10 years" Banner? Or maybe thank you for a great 8 years but the fuss was genuine now you know why we made it . Please put it right
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 23, 2018 19:16:27 GMT
Coates is the main reason we're in this mess. So what are you advocating for Bayern. - PC to step down and JC to step up? - other changes? - or change of owners If the latter, I can't see us being an attractive proposition to some spendthrift billionaire. Imagine us being owned by a richer version of the Vale clown! I think we are tbh. I hate how much he talks. Like this latest article, he just sounds like an absolute moron.
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Post by songthrush01 on Apr 23, 2018 19:17:45 GMT
If that gets unveiled I can see it all getting “ a bit tasty “ amongst the Stoke support ..so it should. Listen, the club have made huge mistakes and yes plural, mistakes, but the owner doesn't deserve a public humiliation like that. It's not on. At the end of the day he has been generally a very good owner for us second time round and always supported his managers, probably too much. It's time for him to move on and pass the mantle on to someone else and we should trust that he will do it and do it in the right time frame. He should go with a good reception when he does. your talking crap.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 23, 2018 19:30:53 GMT
As much as mistakes have been made this season surely nobody in their right mind would want another owner. For every sheik mansour there is are 3 or 4 ellis shorts. Surely very much a case of "be careful what you wish for" in terms of ownership? Is misplaced loyalty really a hanging offence? Just as it was "be careful what you wish for" in terms of management, player types, playing style, and next level aspirations? No. I think that was totally different. We have a local owner who has invested in stoke city. Whilst mistakes have been made, those mistakes have not been ill intentioned. I guess coates will always face suspicion because of his previous tenure which i suppose is fair enough in some respects.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 23, 2018 19:32:49 GMT
Just as it was "be careful what you wish for" in terms of management, player types, playing style, and next level aspirations? No. I think that was totally different. We have a local owner who has invested in stoke city. Whilst mistakes have been made, those mistakes have not been ill intentioned. I guess coates will always face suspicion because of his previous tenure which i suppose is fair enough in some respects. Have you read his latest?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 23, 2018 19:33:44 GMT
No. I think that was totally different. We have a local owner who has invested in stoke city. Whilst mistakes have been made, those mistakes have not been ill intentioned. I guess coates will always face suspicion because of his previous tenure which i suppose is fair enough in some respects. Have you read his latest? No. Whats he said now?
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 23, 2018 19:34:21 GMT
Hopefully the maker has a quiet contemplation, thinks the whole thing through and quietly chucks the banner on a bonfire before he does any damage.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 23, 2018 19:34:59 GMT
Have you read his latest? No. Whats he said now?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 23, 2018 19:40:28 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 23, 2018 19:41:41 GMT
All fine then yeah? Its what many of you thought? Its all mark hughes fault! On we go then. Paul lamberts red and white army
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Post by werrington on Apr 23, 2018 19:43:41 GMT
Why ?......I don’t want Lambert either, I’d get rid of him tomorrow but it doesn’t mean I’d start shouting for Coates head
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 23, 2018 19:45:03 GMT
Why ?......I don’t want Lambert either, I’d get rid of him tomorrow but it doesn’t mean I’d start shouting for Coates head Because of his blithering. He definitely deserves that banner now. And it's not calling for his head and not many are.
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Post by werrington on Apr 23, 2018 19:47:16 GMT
Why ?......I don’t want Lambert either, I’d get rid of him tomorrow but it doesn’t mean I’d start shouting for Coates head Because of his blithering. He definitely deserves that banner now. And it's not calling for his head and not many are. It’s heading that way Bayern 2-0 down at Anfield and a pissed up away end coinciding with the unfurling of that banner Do the maths
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Post by WhyDelilah on Apr 23, 2018 19:47:55 GMT
It's a rarity, but I agree with Bayern.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Apr 23, 2018 19:48:44 GMT
I think Sir Peter should hold up his own banner. Something like....
Without my input 17,000 of you wouldn't be here. And we can do another banner. UNTIL YOU REALISE WHAT THE FUSS IS ABOUT THOSE 17,000 WON'T BE HERE FOR LONG!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 23, 2018 19:49:32 GMT
Because of his blithering. He definitely deserves that banner now. And it's not calling for his head and not many are. It’s heading that way Bayern 2-0 down at Anfield and a pissed up away end coinciding with the unfurling of that banner Do the maths They (the board) need a kick up the arse. How can you read the Chairmans quotes and take him seriously? If it was smurf we'd be laughing our cocks off. It's that arrogant. It's that delusional. He is just asking for trouble.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Apr 23, 2018 19:51:17 GMT
It’s heading that way Bayern 2-0 down at Anfield and a pissed up away end coinciding with the unfurling of that banner Do the maths They (the board) need a kick up the arse. How can you read the Chairmans quotes and take him seriously? If it was smurf we'd be laughing our cocks off. It's that arrogant. It's that delusional. He is just asking for trouble. I don't know what all the fuss is about.
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Post by GoBoks on Apr 23, 2018 19:57:32 GMT
Just as it was "be careful what you wish for" in terms of management, player types, playing style, and next level aspirations? No. I think that was totally different. We have a local owner who has invested in stoke city. Whilst mistakes have been made, those mistakes have not been ill intentioned. I guess coates will always face suspicion because of his previous tenure which i suppose is fair enough in some respects. I doubt that everyone (including me) wishing for us to change our style, our players, our managers, would have been quite so delighted if we knew where it was heading. In other words, would you have taken the past 5 seasons exactly as they occurred ending where we are now, or would you rather have had another 5 years under TP and very similar to our first 5 years in the prem with similar result (safe mid table) right now?
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Post by thevoid on Apr 23, 2018 20:00:08 GMT
After the old fool's latest comments more banners are needed.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 23, 2018 20:22:55 GMT
No. I think that was totally different. We have a local owner who has invested in stoke city. Whilst mistakes have been made, those mistakes have not been ill intentioned. I guess coates will always face suspicion because of his previous tenure which i suppose is fair enough in some respects. I doubt that everyone (including me) wishing for us to change our style, our players, our managers, would have been quite so delighted if we knew where it was heading. In other words, would you have taken the past 5 seasons exactly as they occurred ending where we are now, or would you rather have had another 5 years under TP and very similar to our first 5 years in the prem with similar result (safe mid table) right now? I'd take the unpredictability of football over the mind numbingly boring, repetitive and predictable shit that was the excuse for pulis football minus ricardo fuller. We'd have been relegated before now had pulis stayed but lets not go there again.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 20:24:50 GMT
..so it should. Listen, the club have made huge mistakes and yes plural, mistakes, but the owner doesn't deserve a public humiliation like that. It's not on. At the end of the day he has been generally a very good owner for us second time round and always supported his managers, probably too much. It's time for him to move on and pass the mantle on to someone else and we should trust that he will do it and do it in the right time frame. He should go with a good reception when he does. your talking crap. No I'm not. (This could go on for a while... 😂 )
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Post by mrred on Apr 23, 2018 20:27:46 GMT
Love the banner but shouldn't it be punctuated with a full stop? It's just a real shame that Scholes and Cartwright will get off without so much as a song towards them. They're as culpable as anyone and deserve the vitriol.
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 23, 2018 20:29:29 GMT
I would think that Peter is hurting as much (maybe even more with a huge wedge of cash gone down the shitter) than anyone on here. I'm angry at the current situation but a few off the cuff supporting his manager comments made to a two bit local rag, when trying to keep things stable is hardly worthy of public disrespect. Personally I would hold off for 12 months before looking at forcing a change in ownership. Mistakes have been make and I am sure as shit that behind closed doors everyone is aware of that and is working hard to rectify it. You honestly want to bring more negative press on a family that have done more for this club in the last century than anyone else? Have a bit of decorum, we are talking about a club that honoured rory delaps contract, stood by their managers (perhaps too long but it's admirable all the same) and pioneered the free away travel, openly sought reciprocal away ticket prices and frozen season tickets for over a decade. Give your head a wobble, the banner should say something like "We are gutted, but we are stoke, loyal and around and we will be with you every step of the way" I would focus your anger at the cunts that have let this great club down and they are all on big fat contracts. Coates is the main reason we're in this mess. That's true, he's definitely the main reason that we're in the Premier League.
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Post by Veritas on Apr 23, 2018 20:37:42 GMT
I protested against Coates years ago but not this time. Honest mistakes have been made with recruitment and backing the manager. We need to back the owners as I'm certain they want a quick return Well said we must stick together
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