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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Apr 23, 2018 9:25:36 GMT
The worst thing about it was that it allowed Burnley to go up the other end and apply pressure on us, it took us a few minutes to get the ball back into their box. It ruined our momentum and ultimately allowed Burnley back into the game.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 9:27:23 GMT
One of the most brain dead bits of football I've ever seen. And coming from a team with Geoff Cameron, Kurt Zouma and Eric Pieters in that's saying something.....
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Apr 23, 2018 9:30:17 GMT
I seem to remember Shaqiri doing something similar last week, simply passing the ball to the opposition. Sorry to say this but Shaqiri is quite clearly a big part of the problem. His attitude is obviously winding up his team mates, the team confidence and cohesion is not being helped by a man who has a tantrum everytime a pass isn't completed etc. Another point, he's the least self aware player on the pitch; rollicking Bauer for a poor pass yet taking some of the worst corners I've ever seen. Unacceptable behaviour from an average player. Don't get this need to put Shaqiri down. Yes he had a poor game, yes he's had a few poor games lately, but people seemingly can't wait to say something negative about him. He had no worse a game than Allen did yesterday. He was more than entitled to be angry yesterday. That was a moronic thing to do from Johnson.
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 23, 2018 9:32:08 GMT
It was the turning point of the game. Dioufys miss was the turning point imho. It felt different after that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 9:35:12 GMT
I seem to remember Shaqiri doing something similar last week, simply passing the ball to the opposition. Sorry to say this but Shaqiri is quite clearly a big part of the problem. His attitude is obviously winding up his team mates, the team confidence and cohesion is not being helped by a man who has a tantrum everytime a pass isn't completed etc. Another point, he's the least self aware player on the pitch; rollicking Bauer for a poor pass yet taking some of the worst corners I've ever seen. Unacceptable behaviour from an average player. Don't get this need to put Shaqiri down. Yes he had a poor game, yes he's had a few poor games lately, but people seemingly can't wait to say something negative about him. He had no worse a game than Allen did yesterday. He was more than entitled to be angry yesterday. That was a moronic thing to do from Johnson. Allen was excellent first half yesterday and second half when we were struggling to get a foothold in the game was still pressing and chasing. Not sure what more he could have done to be fair?
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Post by GoBoks on Apr 23, 2018 9:52:12 GMT
It was one of the single most stupid bits of play I've seen in quite some time. And the useless git couldn't wait to do it. He should never play for us again. By definition “taking a quick free kick” means you don’t wait to take it? How many times have you seen goals scored from quick free kicks? What percentage of free kicks has Shaq converted?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 23, 2018 10:17:51 GMT
It was one of the single most stupid bits of play I've seen in quite some time. And the useless git couldn't wait to do it. He should never play for us again. By definition “taking a quick free kick” means you don’t wait to take it? How many times have you seen goals scored from quick free kicks? What percentage of free kicks has Shaq converted? It was a braindeaded idea by a braindead player.
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Post by AlliG on Apr 23, 2018 10:18:23 GMT
It was one of the single most stupid bits of play I've seen in quite some time. And the useless git couldn't wait to do it. He should never play for us again. By definition “taking a quick free kick” means you don’t wait to take it? How many times have you seen goals scored from quick free kicks? What percentage of free kicks has Shaq converted? Shaq might not score that many but it is a possibility. I don't recall us scoring a single goal from a quick free kick in the 20 years we have been at the new stadium. The only quick free kick leading directly to a goal that springs to mind was in a night match at the Vic when the keeper was penalised for handling outside his area and someone wrestled the ball out of his hands and tapped it to one side for a tap into an open goal. (Gary Hackett and/or Carl Saunders spring to mind but it was a long (very long time ago))
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 23, 2018 10:20:11 GMT
By definition “taking a quick free kick” means you don’t wait to take it? How many times have you seen goals scored from quick free kicks? What percentage of free kicks has Shaq converted? It was a braindeaded idea by a braindead player. Who was given a contract extension by a braindead manager and was selected yesterday by another braindead manager.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 10:22:19 GMT
By definition “taking a quick free kick” means you don’t wait to take it? How many times have you seen goals scored from quick free kicks? What percentage of free kicks has Shaq converted? Shaq might not score that many but it is a possibility. I don't recall us scoring a single goal from a quick free kick in the 20 years we have been at the new stadium. The only quick free kick leading directly to a goal that springs to mind was in a night match at the Vic when the keeper was penalised for handling outside his area and someone wrestled the ball out of his hands and tapped it to one side for a tap into an open goal. (Gary Hackett and/or Carl Saunders spring to mind but it was a long (very long time ago)) His last free kick against Spurs hit the bar so he was finding his range. The only one I recall in the Premier League was against us when we got spanked 5 at Bolton, can't think of any occasions where we've benefited though....
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Post by GoBoks on Apr 23, 2018 10:26:18 GMT
By definition “taking a quick free kick” means you don’t wait to take it? How many times have you seen goals scored from quick free kicks? What percentage of free kicks has Shaq converted? It was a braindeaded idea by a braindead player. I am not saying it was the right decision, and it and the outcome were disappointing,but, In the pressure of the moment, a player glimpses an opportunity to take the opponents by surprise. He has to act on it in a split second or it’s gone. Easy to make the wrong decision.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 23, 2018 10:28:18 GMT
It was a braindeaded idea by a braindead player. I am not saying it was the right decision, and it and the outcome were disappointing,but, In the pressure of the moment, a player glimpses an opportunity to take the opponents by surprise. He has to act on it in a split second or it’s gone. Easy to make the wrong decision. It summed up nicely why we're in the shit. Our team in general are thick as pig shit and can't control a game of football. They're prone to making stupid decisions at vital moments and haven't got the bollocks to stand up to the consequences. It was an appalling decision.
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Post by GoBoks on Apr 23, 2018 10:36:05 GMT
I am not saying it was the right decision, and it and the outcome were disappointing,but, In the pressure of the moment, a player glimpses an opportunity to take the opponents by surprise. He has to act on it in a split second or it’s gone. Easy to make the wrong decision. It summed up nicely why we're in the shit. Our team in general are thick as pig shit and can't control a game of football. They're prone to making stupid decisions at vital moments and haven't got the bollocks to stand up to the consequences. It was an appalling decision. Let’s hope that they have already delivered more than a season’s worth of all the above and now we see a season’s worth of brilliance crammed into the next 3 games!
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Post by thegift on Apr 23, 2018 10:36:09 GMT
everyone Get a grip you all would be saying he played well if he hadnt done thay Life's full of "IF's"....the reality of it though, is that he DID, and made a huge balls up of what was one of our only chances during the second half!!! It was simply a shocking decision to take it quick.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 23, 2018 10:38:44 GMT
It summed up nicely why we're in the shit. Our team in general are thick as pig shit and can't control a game of football. They're prone to making stupid decisions at vital moments and haven't got the bollocks to stand up to the consequences. It was an appalling decision. Let’s hope that they have already delivered more than a season’s worth of all the above and now we see a season’s worth of brilliance crammed into the next 3 games! We can but hope! I haven't been quite so mad with one player for a while as I was with Johnson and that free kick yesterday.
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Post by block22stokie on Apr 23, 2018 11:09:45 GMT
It probably was, but realistically is he going to score? Not really and he used that as an excuse to not try for the rest of the game. Could go all day about decisions or things that didn’t work that could change the game. There was certainly every chance of Shaq scoring from there, he's done it before.... The free-kick by Johnson was just totally bizarre, to put it mildly....when you look at it, non of our players were even ready, and even if they had of been, it was under-hit and never even reached Allen!!! And like I said in a previous post he tried and failed it. In 3 years Shaqs been here he’s scored 1 free kick from what I can remember, vs Hull.
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Post by Veritas on Apr 23, 2018 11:17:46 GMT
Sabotage - he fucking hates Stoke - how he got given another year contract I do not know No he doesn't and no it wasn't, it was a stupid decision nothing more or less
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Post by GoBoks on Apr 23, 2018 11:25:57 GMT
Let’s hope that they have already delivered more than a season’s worth of all the above and now we see a season’s worth of brilliance crammed into the next 3 games! We can but hope! I haven't been quite so mad with one player for a while as I was with Johnson and that free kick yesterday. Even when we were labeled as a bunch of rugby playing thugs with no skill whatsoever, we had a team we could be proud of. This bunch of overpaid, underperforming bunch of wet blankets is very very difficult to be proud of. C’mon Spirit of Stoke past, take possession of this bunch and have them beat Liverpool 1-0 before taking out both Palace and Swansea by 2 Goals each!!!!
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Post by kronkie on Apr 23, 2018 11:43:11 GMT
I didn't go to the game and they didn't show it on MOTD,anyone got a video?.
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Post by philb on Apr 23, 2018 11:45:47 GMT
I didn't go to the game and it didn't show it on MOTD,anyone got a video?. They didn’t show Barnes’ assault on BMI either.
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Post by thehoof on Apr 23, 2018 13:59:33 GMT
It was one of the single most stupid bits of play I've seen in quite some time. And the useless git couldn't wait to do it. He should never play for us again. By definition “taking a quick free kick” means you don’t wait to take it? How many times have you seen goals scored from quick free kicks? What percentage of free kicks has Shaq converted? More than we have scored from taking quick free kicks- I think it’s 4-0 to the Shaq free kicks?
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Post by GoBoks on Apr 23, 2018 17:04:30 GMT
By definition “taking a quick free kick” means you don’t wait to take it? How many times have you seen goals scored from quick free kicks? What percentage of free kicks has Shaq converted? More than we have scored from taking quick free kicks- I think it’s 4-0 to the Shaq free kicks? The point is that it is a decision taken in the heat of the moment. It's hardly worth having an apoplectic fit about. Now if it was a penalty, and he insisted on taking it only to make a ballsup and then fall over before tapping in the rebound..........
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Post by leicspotter on Apr 23, 2018 18:39:15 GMT
More than we have scored from taking quick free kicks- I think it’s 4-0 to the Shaq free kicks? The point is that it is a decision taken in the heat of the moment. It's hardly worth having an apoplectic fit about. Now if it was a penalty, and he insisted on taking it only to make a ballsup and then fall over before tapping in the rebound.......... The difference between top players and the rest is often their decision making. BTW don't twist the facts to suit your prejudices, Adam missed the pen, true, but was clearly fouled on the follow up by a player who had also encroached before the pen was taken. So many reasons the ref fucked up, yet many on here prefer to blame Adam 100%...instead of about 50%
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 23, 2018 18:50:46 GMT
More than we have scored from taking quick free kicks- I think it’s 4-0 to the Shaq free kicks? The point is that it is a decision taken in the heat of the moment. It's hardly worth having an apoplectic fit about. Now if it was a penalty, and he insisted on taking it only to make a ballsup and then fall over before tapping in the rebound.......... If Shaqiri had been given the opportunity to take a direct free-kick anywhere on the pitch, he would have placed the ball exactly where it was, it was perfect for him. The anticipation in the crowd as he trotted over to take it was palpable, here was the opportunity finally to get the second goal and hopefully chalk an extra two points up which in turn may have given us a chance of survival. But no ... Johnson's I'll considered rashness robbed us of that opportunity, it would have been a daft thing to do early in the season but to do it when our Premiership life is hanging by a thread, meaning that every opportunity to score a goal has the most intense value attached to it, is utterly unforgivable.
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Post by GoBoks on Apr 23, 2018 18:56:45 GMT
The point is that it is a decision taken in the heat of the moment. It's hardly worth having an apoplectic fit about. Now if it was a penalty, and he insisted on taking it only to make a ballsup and then fall over before tapping in the rebound.......... The difference between top players and the rest is often their decision making. BTW don't twist the facts to suit your prejudices, Adam missed the pen, true, but was clearly fouled on the follow up by a player who had also encroached before the pen was taken. So many reasons the ref fucked up, yet many on here prefer to blame Adam 100%...instead of about 50% My only bias is I want Stoke to score goals. If Adam had put that away, I'd be singing his praises. But I don't see taking a quick free kick as anywhere near the same level of stuff up as any of the absolute point dropping clangers by various players (Adam, Diouf, Butland, etc) over the past few weeks.
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Post by GoBoks on Apr 23, 2018 19:00:20 GMT
The point is that it is a decision taken in the heat of the moment. It's hardly worth having an apoplectic fit about. Now if it was a penalty, and he insisted on taking it only to make a ballsup and then fall over before tapping in the rebound.......... If Shaqiri had been given the opportunity to take a direct free-kick anywhere on the pitch, he would have placed the ball exactly where it was, it was perfect for him. The anticipation in the crowd as he trotted over to take it was palpable, here was the opportunity finally to get the second goal and hopefully chalk an extra two points up which in turn may have given us a chance of survival. But no ... Johnson's I'll considered rashness robbed us of that opportunity, it would have been a daft thing to do early in the season but to do it when our Premiership life is hanging by a thread, meaning that every opportunity to score a goal has the most intense value attached to it, is utterly unforgivable. I've never preferred anyone taking a quick free kick and think it should be strongly discouraged by management, but, it's not. And in this instance, was definitely not a sure thing. If anything, Shaq's reaction probably cost us more than a single half-chance.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 23, 2018 19:04:03 GMT
If Shaqiri had been given the opportunity to take a direct free-kick anywhere on the pitch, he would have placed the ball exactly where it was, it was perfect for him. The anticipation in the crowd as he trotted over to take it was palpable, here was the opportunity finally to get the second goal and hopefully chalk an extra two points up which in turn may have given us a chance of survival. But no ... Johnson's I'll considered rashness robbed us of that opportunity, it would have been a daft thing to do early in the season but to do it when our Premiership life is hanging by a thread, meaning that every opportunity to score a goal has the most intense value attached to it, is utterly unforgivable. I've never preferred anyone taking a quick free kick and think it should be strongly discouraged by management, but, it's not. And in this instance, was definitely not a sure thing. If anything, Shaq's reaction probably cost us more than a single half-chance. Nothing is a sure thing but we were being offered the next best thing to a penalty and Johnson robbed us of that opportunity. It's indefensible.
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