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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 21:06:41 GMT
3pts becomes 1pt in another relegation 6 pointer. It's happened time and again. That is what has done us in if you want to know where the crunch is. Not enough grit in those scrappy shitty bottom of the league battles. Grit wasn't the problem, quality is, Diouf clean through with a half decent touch and he well and truly fucks it. Spot on. Plenty of effort and endeavour. Just not enough quality.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 21:06:59 GMT
Theres some right knobs on here. It was a guttsy performance that we were unfortunate not too win. Question the quality but not the effort. The lads gave everything. You have to accept that we are quite possibly the thickest team ever to play the game. Why oh why wasnt shawcross tasked with handling carroll from the second he walked onto the pitch? It's quite simple Dave and not many people will accept it on here but it's the truth. Since Ryan has come back from his latest injury he struggles to get off the floor when jumping, and has resorted to fouling his man when the ball is in the air, standing on the floor and nodding it away. The one time he got close to Carroll he was all over him in the box and nearly gave away a pen.
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Post by nott1 on Apr 16, 2018 21:09:02 GMT
At least Arnie was shite!
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Post by badger on Apr 16, 2018 21:09:59 GMT
Will be interesting if they show the build up to Carroll’s goal on Sky. The phase before the goal Butland came and punched when there was an easy catch on. They then spread it to Cresswell, cross, goal.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Apr 16, 2018 21:10:19 GMT
Awful defending allowing Caroll to get a foot in. We can absolutely get 12 points from the next 4 games. I’m not sure we will but we can. Pieters and Indi both turned their backs on him!
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Post by jwhpotter on Apr 16, 2018 21:10:39 GMT
Shawcross was brilliant tonight and we put so much effort in but unfortunately it’s too little too late
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Post by pavel on Apr 16, 2018 21:10:53 GMT
I just didn't get the subs apart from Crouch and he did what he's best at as a sub, he a scored, fine. Cameron, why, why why! Keep the centre midfield the same and bring on Ireland and push shaq wide, minimal change but some creativity..... and then he compounds it by when he actually does bring Ireland on and when we are 1 up and brings Ireland on for Diouf rather than Shaq. fuck me, it's not rocket science.
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Post by gingerninja on Apr 16, 2018 21:11:00 GMT
They were bizarre subs yet again. Bauer and his energy had to stay on in some capacity.. Sorry but Zouma is a very very poor football player. Lambert really must stop this non stop bigging everything up,yes we have improved but at the end of the day it's still 1 in 11..sorry not good enough!!!
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Post by ohbottom on Apr 16, 2018 21:11:19 GMT
Without doubt the worst emotion in the world is Hope. Just accept that we are down, you will feel better. That's what's so cruel about it. I HAD accepted we were down, until Hart set Crouchie up. Then going in to the last minute I was thinking, we might just actually do this...... I fucking hate hope
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Apr 16, 2018 21:11:44 GMT
I knew as soon as you posted that you'd jinx it, same with the other prick "Carroll will score" fucking makes everything worse when he actually does. I fucking hate West Ham more than any other club, hope they liquidate. But I never said he would score did I?! I said I wanted us to defend what they were going to throw at us. The "other" prick.. nice. No but still it fucks me off that you would post that, we needed that positive vibe. Now we have people posting memes taking the piss out of my club.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 16, 2018 21:14:37 GMT
But I never said he would score did I?! I said I wanted us to defend what they were going to throw at us. The "other" prick.. nice. No but still it fucks me off that you would post that, we needed that positive vibe. Now we have people posting memes taking the piss out of my club. You're talking bollocks in all honesty. How on earth did we ever manage to score?! You know, fighting against all those "negative vibes" on here moaning about the subs?! I'm sure that was really impacting Crouch before he stuck it in the net.
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Post by musik on Apr 16, 2018 21:15:04 GMT
BMI MOM
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Post by BuzzB on Apr 16, 2018 21:15:40 GMT
Will be interesting if they show the build up to Carroll’s goal on Sky. The phase before the goal Butland came and punched when there was an easy catch on. They then spread it to Cresswell, cross, goal. Neville just nailed this point
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 21:15:50 GMT
Cowardly, predictable, structureless cack.
Looked like a training exercise at times for West Ham
Lambert will be wanking himself dry at coming out of that with a point - he absolutely has to go, that was up there with Hughes V Coventry.
Can't we sack him now and appoint the kit man as coach?
Through some act of moronism Hart spilled a routine catch/pushaway and we had more than enough defenders on the pitch to see it out.
Huge Joe Allen fan, but they looked lost in midfield today.
I fucking despair...
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Post by maine on Apr 16, 2018 21:17:15 GMT
Crouch should have replaced Diouff much earlier. Bauer starts to look threatening down the right so he's switched to the left, moving Shaq over to where he was pretty ineffective. Why not get him to give Zabaletta a problem instead?
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Post by lordb on Apr 16, 2018 21:18:23 GMT
Will be interesting if they show the build up to Carroll’s goal on Sky. The phase before the goal Butland came and punched when there was an easy catch on. They then spread it to Cresswell, cross, goal. Didn't think a catch was on myself,punch was the right call. Not seen it back mind.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Apr 16, 2018 21:18:26 GMT
No but still it fucks me off that you would post that, we needed that positive vibe. Now we have people posting memes taking the piss out of my club. You're talking bollocks in all honesty. How on earth did we ever manage to score?! You know, fighting against all those "negative vibes" on here moaning about the subs?! I'm sure that was really impacting Crouch before he stuck it in the net. I'm just fucking pissed off.
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Post by prudhoe1981 on Apr 16, 2018 21:19:05 GMT
Theres some right knobs on here. It was a guttsy performance that we were unfortunate not too win. Question the quality but not the effort. The lads gave everything. You're right mate. Can't fault the effort. But looking at the season overall, and the week after week piss poor quality, we have to admit that we're just not premier league quality. We haven't won a game for three months. It isn't a case of bad luck that we are where we are. We will certainly be relegated. I was convinced after the Everton fuck up that we were down so tonight doesn't disappoint a great deal. Fair play to the boys for having a go. We will bounce back from this car crash of a season. Stoke City will return to the big time once more.
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Post by jwhpotter on Apr 16, 2018 21:19:35 GMT
No chance - Shawcross was immense
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Post by gingerninja on Apr 16, 2018 21:19:47 GMT
Does it look as if Kevin Russell is looking a figure very much on the outside of things recently?
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Post by stokierich on Apr 16, 2018 21:29:13 GMT
Didn't deserve anything tonight so lucky with the 1 point really, trying to remain positive and with win on Sunday could see us 2 points off Swansea who's away against Man city. Just don't think Lambert can buy a win, some of his management today was shocking and handed West Ham the impetus in the seconded half.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 21:35:54 GMT
Well I don't know what match some people have watched tonight. I have it recorded so I'll tell you what I watched.
Butland . Shows Southgate why he's better than Hart when getting the ball away from the danger area after a save and standing up big and tall when one on one with an attacker, then shows us the weaknesses, punches a ball Banks would have caught with one hand and snuffed out the danger even after he lost an eye. Comes and chases a ball he had no hope of getting almost giving me a heart attack shouting at him.
Shawcross good my arse, fouls his man with arms flailing like a windmill at every possible opportunity. How he didn't give a penalty away beggars belief. Remember this is a LONDON club at home on the TV. What bloody world do you live in Ryan playing like that?
Diouf I would just love to see this man play with that enthusiasm and smile on his face if only someone had ever told him IT'S FOOTBALL this week not RUGBY. When will you get on a pitch and practice your shooting boy?
Now the good bit. Effort and desire from EVERY player was there to be seen. Yes we run out of stamina after 30 minutes of each half but effort and desire we have.
Best bit. Listening to those fans sing loud and proud. I will never tire of that... just the best. Once again hats off to the fans.
We were as good as them for the most part, lucky at times with the penalty call and disallowed goals but on the whole we are NOW good enough to play in this division. The whole world and his dog know we have no goal scorer so someone please tell me why didn't our recruitment team know?
On we go, hope springs eternal.
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 16, 2018 21:36:07 GMT
Still think we will finish above West Ham
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Post by poethebald on Apr 16, 2018 21:39:25 GMT
Well I don't know what match some people have watched tonight. I have it recorded so I'll tell you what I watched. Butland . Shows Southgate why he's better than Hart when getting the ball away from the danger area after a save and standing up big and tall when one on one with an attacker, then shows us the weaknesses, punches a ball Banks would have caught with one hand and snuffed out the danger even after he lost an eye. Comes and chases a ball he had no hope of getting almost giving me a heart attack shouting at him. Shawcross good my arse, fouls his man with arms flailing like a windmill at every possible opportunity. How he didn't give a penalty away beggars belief. Remember this is a LONDON club at home on the TV. What bloody world do you live in Ryan playing like that? Diouf I would just love to see this man play with that enthusiasm and smile on his face if only someone had ever told him IT'S FOOTBALL this week not RUGBY. When will you get on a pitch and practice your shooting boy? Now the good bit. Effort and desire from EVERY player was there to be seen. Yes we run out of stamina after 30 minutes of each half but effort and desire we have. Best bit. Listening to those fans sing loud and proud. I will never tire of that... just the best. Once again hats off to the fans. We were as good as them for the most part, lucky at times with the penalty call and disallowed goals but on the whole we are NOW good enough to play in this division. The whole world and his dog know we have no goal scorer so someone please tell me why didn't our recruitment team know? On we go, hope springs eternal. Can't disagree with any of that.A very fair assessment.
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Post by ibby on Apr 16, 2018 21:40:05 GMT
Blew it.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 16, 2018 21:40:19 GMT
Please play 3-5-2 from now on. Shaq isn't good enough to build a team around, so fuck this one up front bollocks. We need to gamble now, not fanny about.
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Apr 16, 2018 21:40:40 GMT
this draw could potentially extend our agony.
still possible with three draws we could go into the final game with a do or die and pray Southampton lose.
You can guarantee in that scenario Southampton will win, we will win and they will stay up on goal difference.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 16, 2018 21:41:03 GMT
Please play 3-5-2 from now on. Shaq isn't good enough to build a team around, so fuck this one up front bollocks. We need to gamble now, not fanny about.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 16, 2018 21:48:18 GMT
What’s happened to greenhoff?
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Post by FrankButcher on Apr 16, 2018 21:52:34 GMT
It was so clear our wingers were shite tonight (Ramadan, excluding Bauer as he's a full back) we should of played 5-3-2 Bauer and Pieters/Staffylidis providing the width with campbell and crouch upfront and play shaqiri in the number 10 role Infront of Allen and Ndiaye. So frustrating seeing sobhi do fuck all in the final third when he gets the ball.
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