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Post by thegift on Mar 21, 2018 20:58:14 GMT
He has got us relegated, Jimmy. Lambert hasn't improved the cause but is not to blame. If someone is involved in a murder case,but picks up the victim, supplies the weapon and watches it happen, hes still going down for murder, isn't he? Thick as shit. Haha you know pugs
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Post by swampySCFC on Mar 21, 2018 21:12:23 GMT
Hope so otherwise Cartwright and Scholes need to fuck right off
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Post by march4 on Mar 21, 2018 22:14:37 GMT
I think it is safe to say few of our players improved under Hughes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 23:52:14 GMT
There’s no question we are poorer for the loss of Arni. Fuller on the other hand I am not so sure. He’s from a different era and the standard of the PL is much higher than it was 10 years ago. Everyone has to improve just tread water - unfortunately we haven’t and we are sinking fast. I think the Ric we had in his first seasons for us with pace, power and skills on the ball would have been perfect for us now! Also Rory.
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Post by robwahlmann on Mar 22, 2018 8:56:13 GMT
I think the Ric we had in his first seasons for us with pace, power and skills on the ball would have been perfect for us now! Also Rory. yes, and N'Zonzi too, but the two, Ric and Arnie, would certainly have kept us up by a distance!
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Post by pez75 on Mar 22, 2018 9:07:24 GMT
Hughes won't have got us relegated either Gifty if we do go down, and he'll always be able to point to that on his CV. If we do get relegated, I pray that Saints do too. He has got us relegated, Jimmy. Lambert hasn't improved the cause but is not to blame. If someone is involved in a murder case,but picks up the victim, supplies the weapon and watches it happen, hes still going down for murder, isn't he? Just like Pulis @ WBA?
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Post by thegift on Mar 22, 2018 9:08:37 GMT
He has got us relegated, Jimmy. Lambert hasn't improved the cause but is not to blame. If someone is involved in a murder case,but picks up the victim, supplies the weapon and watches it happen, hes still going down for murder, isn't he? Just like Pulis @ WBA? No, he left in more than enough time to turn them round, ultimately, pardew has done worse than TP
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Post by pez75 on Mar 22, 2018 9:15:11 GMT
No, he left in more than enough time to turn them round, ultimately, pardew has done worse than TP To use your wank murder analogy, surely Pulis picked up the victim, supplied the murder weapon, and watched it happen? Oh, and the word is 'sacked' by the way...
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Post by thegift on Mar 22, 2018 9:53:51 GMT
No, he left in more than enough time to turn them round, ultimately, pardew has done worse than TP To use your wank murder analogy, surely Pulis picked up the victim, supplied the murder weapon, and watched it happen? Oh, and the word is 'sacked' by the way... Pulis in that analogy would of admitted the mistake, admitted the supplying of the weapon then got away without a sentence.
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Post by silverdollar on Mar 22, 2018 13:17:59 GMT
As always you make conclusions based totally on your imagination. Now you profess to have an insight into the mentality of players you probably never ever spoken to. Are you trying to tell me that Charlie Adam cares after what we have seen from him this year? Choupo? Berahino? Wimmer? They all care do they I am telling you that neither you are I are privy to these players minds or how they feel! You are making an assumption based upon your anger at our situation!
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Post by thegift on Mar 22, 2018 14:03:01 GMT
Are you trying to tell me that Charlie Adam cares after what we have seen from him this year? Choupo? Berahino? Wimmer? They all care do they I am telling you that neither you are I are privy to these players minds or how they feel! You are making an assumption based upon your anger at our situation! Top fo the league, bottom of the league, or mid table. You think berahino cares yes? Cant even get fit to do a job he's paid to do? Talking out of your arse
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Post by silverdollar on Mar 22, 2018 15:39:37 GMT
I am telling you that neither you are I are privy to these players minds or how they feel! You are making an assumption based upon your anger at our situation! Top fo the league, bottom of the league, or mid table. You think berahino cares yes? Cant even get fit to do a job he's paid to do? Talking out of your arse On the contrary you are talking out of your arse. It is clear that you believe everything your read or hear in the media. You believe the negative drivel you read on this forum. You consistently spout your point of view with no facts to substantiate your comments. Eg.Are you privy to the fitness coach's figures on our players? Yet you believe what you might read in the Sentinel as gospel. I have no idea what is going through Berahino's mind and neither have you. You can only make assumptions and you are not very good at that. I will stake my life that Berahino is fitter to do his job than Crouch or Charlie Adam. It is nonsense that he is not being selected because he is not fit. I believe there are other reasons why he is not being selected, more to do with his attitude towards Hughes and now Lambert and the way he conducts himself. We are in a terrible place as a club which is down to several reasons and it is very clear all fans anger and frustration needs a scapegoat and you have decided it is going to be Berahino.
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Post by thegift on Mar 22, 2018 15:50:47 GMT
Top fo the league, bottom of the league, or mid table. You think berahino cares yes? Cant even get fit to do a job he's paid to do? Talking out of your arse On the contrary you are talking out of your arse. It is clear that you believe everything your read or hear in the media. You believe the negative drivel you read on this forum. You consistently spout your point of view with no facts to substantiate your comments. Eg.Are you privy to the fitness coach's figures on our players? Yet you believe what you might read in the Sentinel as gospel. I have no idea what is going through Berahino's mind and neither have you. You can only make assumptions and you are not very good at that. I will stake my life that Berahino is fitter to do his job than Crouch or Charlie Adam. It is nonsense that he is not being selected because he is not fit. I believe there are other reasons why he is not being selected, more to do with his attitude towards Hughes and now Lambert and the way he conducts himself. We are in a terrible place as a club which is down to several reasons and it is very clear all fans anger and frustration needs a scapegoat and you have decided it is going to be Berahino. Maybe you need a dose of reality. Lambert has come out and ADMITTED Berahino is NOT fit enough.
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Post by silverdollar on Mar 22, 2018 16:24:58 GMT
On the contrary you are talking out of your arse. It is clear that you believe everything your read or hear in the media. You believe the negative drivel you read on this forum. You consistently spout your point of view with no facts to substantiate your comments. Eg.Are you privy to the fitness coach's figures on our players? Yet you believe what you might read in the Sentinel as gospel. I have no idea what is going through Berahino's mind and neither have you. You can only make assumptions and you are not very good at that. I will stake my life that Berahino is fitter to do his job than Crouch or Charlie Adam. It is nonsense that he is not being selected because he is not fit. I believe there are other reasons why he is not being selected, more to do with his attitude towards Hughes and now Lambert and the way he conducts himself. We are in a terrible place as a club which is down to several reasons and it is very clear all fans anger and frustration needs a scapegoat and you have decided it is going to be Berahino. Maybe you need a dose of reality. Lambert has come out and ADMITTED Berahino is NOT fit enough. You are very naive!
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Post by thegift on Mar 22, 2018 16:27:59 GMT
Maybe you need a dose of reality. Lambert has come out and ADMITTED Berahino is NOT fit enough. You are very naive! So are you suggesting lambert is lying about Berahino?
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Post by silverdollar on Mar 22, 2018 22:28:19 GMT
All Managers nowadays have to handle the media on a regular basis and I am sure that very many of them do not tell the media the whole truth. When you add to this that the media people are very creative in order to sell papers I am saying that only a fool takes their words for Gospel. Saudi Berahino is much vilified by Stoke fans and although the guy has not helped himself his treatment and the derision he receives is disgraceful. I have no doubt that Lambert and all managers tell lies! I also suggest that many things they say are twisted into stories that sell papers. Berahino is no less fit than many of the Stoke players. He will not get match fit until he features more regularly. It is only my opinion that says I would feature him in the first eleven for Stoke. He is as likely to score as any of our other forwards at the moment but as you know that is open to debate on this forum but try to base your opinions on more reliable sources.
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