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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 21, 2018 10:29:08 GMT
Judging by various threads, it seems almost everyone is wank! Who is fit for purpose? Who escapes The Oatcake wrath?
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Post by auntiegeorge on Mar 21, 2018 10:33:18 GMT
Joe Allen certainly escapes my wrath.
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Post by Stokyo on Mar 21, 2018 10:40:37 GMT
Unfit for purpose :
Berahino Cheapo Jese Crouch (good servant but its over) Fletcher Adam Wimmer Johnson
Fit for purpose :
Butland Shawcross (sometimes) Bauer Shaq Allen
The rest are somewhere inbetween. Its shocking looking at how many dead weights we have on our books, the old saying goes true 'buy cheap pay twice'.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 21, 2018 10:41:21 GMT
Joe Allen certainly escapes my wrath. Mine, too, but he's a "nothing" player, apparently! 😁
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Post by chuckrocky on Mar 21, 2018 10:41:41 GMT
Allen, Shaqiri, Butland (despite his current form), Bauer and Indi are decent Premier League players and would get in most sides outside of the top six.
Badou I’m still undecided on but I wouldn’t say he looks out of place in the Premier League.
The rest are a mix of average, poor and utter dross.
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Post by thegift on Mar 21, 2018 10:43:42 GMT
Unfit for purpose :
Berahino Choupo Jese Crouch Fletcher Adam Wimmer Johnson Ireland Imbula
Fit for purpose :
Butland Shawcross Bauer Shaq Allen Indi Pieters Grant Affaley Ramadan Campbell Ngoy Bojan Muneisa Badou
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 10:48:46 GMT
Unfit for purpose : Berahino Choupo Jese Crouch Fletcher Adam Wimmer Johnson Ireland Imbula Fit for purpose : Butland Shawcross Bauer Shaq Allen Indi Pieters Grant Affaley Ramadan Campbell Ngoy Bojan Muneisa Badou Agree. I know it wont go down well on here but I dont think Choupo has been that bad either.
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Post by silverdollar on Mar 21, 2018 11:05:28 GMT
The question is rather contentious and rather like asking "Do have have any supporters who have any worth?" If I was a player such as Choupo, Jese , Berahino, Fletcher, Indi and others and I visited this site I do not feel that I would be motivated to give an inch for the club. Personally As disappointed and as angry as I feel I still believe that we can achieve the points to avoid relegation because we have the players who can do the necessary. I no longer have much faith in Lambert. On Saturday he gave an opportunity to Everton on a plate and it was a wasted chance to grab three points. Do I choose a player who has played well but may be tired or do I choose players like Johnson who are not match fit. Lambert is supposedly not selecting Berahino because of his match fitness and yet he selects Adam, Crouch and Johnson. Lambert made a massive mistake last Saturday. I believe if we had had five defenders against Man City they would not have scored! I think that if we select Zouma, Shawcross and Indi and use Bauer and Stafylidis as wing backs that we can keep clean sheets and that always will raise spirits. I believe that our midfield three of Allen Cameron and NDiaye is good. Shaqiri can certainly be a match winner. Selecting a goal scorer is always going to be the biggest gamble. Our choices arevery limited with the squad we have. Personally I do not want to see Crouch playing except in the last ten minutes. I do not believe Jese is going to be the answer either. I think that although Choup certainly has his critics he has scored needed goals. I would start with Choupo and get Berahino and Campbell making last thirty minute appearances between them.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Mar 21, 2018 11:06:00 GMT
We dont have decent striker on the books, and we havent since Fuller & Beattie left Stoke.
Crouch was a good plan B so I wont say he did nothing.
Diouf isnt Premier League standard, maybe will be ok in Championship
We have an awful record of signing strikers since the mid-nineties to be fair.
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Post by robwahlmann on Mar 21, 2018 11:16:26 GMT
If we had a 28-year-old Ricardo Fuller on top and Arnie on the right we would have had a very good team when all had been fit!
.....................Butland....................... Bauer.......Shawcross.......Indi...........Staffy .....................Cameron...................... ..........Allen.................Badou............ Shaqiri..............Fuller.................Arnie
Oh, how I wish ..................
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Post by vahl on Mar 21, 2018 11:21:42 GMT
Crouch, Fletcher, Ireland, Johnson, Pieters - Thanks a lot and good bye. Some good "free transfers" there for 1-2 clubs in the lower leagues. Pieters wants China?
Jese, Stafylidis - No thanks.
Bring back Imbula, Bojan.
We have to replace these players properly though.
Another thing is, we are getting close to losing a lot of our English/British first-team players. That will be a problem going forward - no nationalistic bollocks either, it will be a problem.
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Post by cousindupree on Mar 21, 2018 11:24:05 GMT
The squad has needed a major upgrade now for the best part of two years. All we got mainly was cheap options of loans and frees and poor high priced players. So it's no surprise that we have maybe only 6/7 premier level players. We often think our players are better than they are, it's always interesting to get the opinion of non stokies and listening to the ones I know very few of our players are coveted.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 11:30:10 GMT
Butland, Bauer, Shawcross BMI, Shaq, Muniesa, Bojan and I still think Imbula has got it. When he first came I'm sure everyone thought we got a bargain even at £18mill. That player needs to be found again.
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Post by biglad180 on Mar 21, 2018 11:52:12 GMT
we have plenty of good players all we need is a speedy winger a goalscorer who can find the net and we would be a different team we have nothing up front. as we all know
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 21, 2018 11:57:54 GMT
The question is rather contentious and rather like asking "Do have have any supporters who have any worth?" If I was a player such as Choupo, Jese , Berahino, Fletcher, Indi and others and I visited this site I do not feel that I would be motivated to give an inch for the club. Personally As disappointed and as angry as I feel I still believe that we can achieve the points to avoid relegation because we have the players who can do the necessary. I no longer have much faith in Lambert. On Saturday he gave an opportunity to Everton on a plate and it was a wasted chance to grab three points. Do I choose a player who has played well but may be tired or do I choose players like Johnson who are not match fit. Lambert is supposedly not selecting Berahino because of his match fitness and yet he selects Adam, Crouch and Johnson. Lambert made a massive mistake last Saturday. I believe if we had had five defenders against Man City they would not have scored! I think that if we select Zouma, Shawcross and Indi and use Bauer and Stafylidis as wing backs that we can keep clean sheets and that always will raise spirits. I believe that our midfield three of Allen Cameron and NDiaye is good. Shaqiri can certainly be a match winner. Selecting a goal scorer is always going to be the biggest gamble. Our choices arevery limited with the squad we have. Personally I do not want to see Crouch playing except in the last ten minutes. I do not believe Jese is going to be the answer either. I think that although Choup certainly has his critics he has scored needed goals. I would start with Choupo and get Berahino and Campbell making last thirty minute appearances between them. That's why I worded it like that. I have often wondered what players would make of this message board.
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Post by thegift on Mar 21, 2018 11:58:58 GMT
The question is rather contentious and rather like asking "Do have have any supporters who have any worth?" If I was a player such as Choupo, Jese , Berahino, Fletcher, Indi and others and I visited this site I do not feel that I would be motivated to give an inch for the club. Personally As disappointed and as angry as I feel I still believe that we can achieve the points to avoid relegation because we have the players who can do the necessary. I no longer have much faith in Lambert. On Saturday he gave an opportunity to Everton on a plate and it was a wasted chance to grab three points. Do I choose a player who has played well but may be tired or do I choose players like Johnson who are not match fit. Lambert is supposedly not selecting Berahino because of his match fitness and yet he selects Adam, Crouch and Johnson. Lambert made a massive mistake last Saturday. I believe if we had had five defenders against Man City they would not have scored! I think that if we select Zouma, Shawcross and Indi and use Bauer and Stafylidis as wing backs that we can keep clean sheets and that always will raise spirits. I believe that our midfield three of Allen Cameron and NDiaye is good. Shaqiri can certainly be a match winner. Selecting a goal scorer is always going to be the biggest gamble. Our choices arevery limited with the squad we have. Personally I do not want to see Crouch playing except in the last ten minutes. I do not believe Jese is going to be the answer either. I think that although Choup certainly has his critics he has scored needed goals. I would start with Choupo and get Berahino and Campbell making last thirty minute appearances between them. That's why I worded it like that. I have often wondered what players would make of this message board. Wouldn't give a fuck probably, just like they dont most weeks.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Mar 21, 2018 11:59:17 GMT
If we had a 28-year-old Ricardo Fuller on top and Arnie on the right we would have had a very good team when all had been fit! .....................Sorenson....................... Bauer.........Shawcross.......Indi...........Staffy ..............Delap..........N'zonzi................ ......................Badou.......................... Shaqiri.............. Fuller................. ArnieOh, how I wish .................. Fixed it for you. Fuck me, what a team.
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Post by thegift on Mar 21, 2018 12:03:33 GMT
If we had a 28-year-old Ricardo Fuller on top and Arnie on the right we would have had a very good team when all had been fit! .....................Sorenson....................... Bauer.........Shawcross....... Faye..........Staffy ..............Delap..........N'zonzi................ ......................Badou.......................... Shaqiri.............. Fuller................. ArnieOh, how I wish .................. Fixed it for you. Fuck me, what a team. Fixed it for you as well
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Mar 21, 2018 12:06:46 GMT
Keep them fit and I actually think Ireland and Affeley could do a good job in the Championship.
like I say, if we can keep them fit.
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Post by thegift on Mar 21, 2018 12:12:32 GMT
Keep them fit and I actually think Ireland and Affeley could do a good job in the Championship. like I say, if we can keep them fit. Duno about the championship, they could do a cracking job in the premier league.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Mar 21, 2018 12:15:30 GMT
we have been in the prem for 10 years now pick your best 11 for their performances for Stoke at their best over any period of time how many would get in ?
here is my stab
1 Jack Bego Tommy ( Hard to Pick One )
2 Bauer / Wilko
3 Pieters
4 Nzonzi
5 Shawcross / Faye
6 Huth
7 Shaq / Pennant
8 Delap
9 Walters
10 Fuller / Bojan
11 Ethers/ Arnie
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Mar 21, 2018 12:18:12 GMT
Keep them fit and I actually think Ireland and Affeley could do a good job in the Championship. like I say, if we can keep them fit. Duno about the championship, they could do a cracking job in the premier league. As emphasised by Irelands performance at Old Trafford. If only Paul Lambert had been there to see it
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Post by thegift on Mar 21, 2018 12:20:23 GMT
Duno about the championship, they could do a cracking job in the premier league. As emphasised by Irelands performance at Old Trafford. If only Paul Lambert had been there to see it I would of thought he would of seen it, he just chose to ignore it. Him and ireland have previous.
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Post by thegift on Mar 21, 2018 12:22:06 GMT
we have been in the prem for 10 years now pick your best 11 for their performances for Stoke at their best over any period of time how many would get in ? here is my stab 1 Jack 2 Bauer 3 Pieters 4 Allen 5 Shawcross / Faye 6 Huth 7 Shaq 8 Nzonzi 9 Walters 10 Fuller 11 Arnie done
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Mar 21, 2018 12:22:38 GMT
we have been in the prem for 10 years now pick your best 11 for their performances for Stoke at their best over any period of time how many would get in ? here is my stab 1 Jack Bego Tommy ( Hard to Pick One ) 2 Bauer / Wilko 3 Pieters 4 Allen / Whelan 5 Shawcross / Faye 6 Huth 7 Shaq / Pennant 8 Delap 9 Walters 10 Fuller / Bojan 11 Ethers/ Arnie Ooooo Good game, Here's my Scary 11 1, Butland 2, Wilko - not seen enough of Bauer yet. 3, Pieters 4, Whelan 5, Ryan 6, Huth 7, Pennant 8, Bojan 9, Walters 10, Fuller 11, Ethers
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Post by thegift on Mar 21, 2018 12:30:53 GMT
we have been in the prem for 10 years now pick your best 11 for their performances for Stoke at their best over any period of time how many would get in ? here is my stab 1 Jack Bego Tommy ( Hard to Pick One ) 2 Bauer / Wilko 3 Pieters 4 Allen / Whelan 5 Shawcross / Faye 6 Huth 7 Shaq / Pennant 8 Delap 9 Walters 10 Fuller / Bojan 11 Ethers/ Arnie Ooooo Good game, Here's my Scary 11 1, Butland 2, Wilko - not seen enough of Bauer yet. 3, Pieters 4, Whelan 5, Ryan 6, Huth 7, Pennant 8, Bojan 9, Walters 10, Fuller 11, Ethers No shaq? No nzonzi? No arnie?
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Post by silverdollar on Mar 21, 2018 12:35:52 GMT
That's why I worded it like that. I have often wondered what players would make of this message board. Wouldn't give a fuck probably, just like they dont most weeks. As always you make conclusions based totally on your imagination. Now you profess to have an insight into the mentality of players you probably never ever spoken to.
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Post by thegift on Mar 21, 2018 12:38:17 GMT
Wouldn't give a fuck probably, just like they dont most weeks. As always you make conclusions based totally on your imagination. Now you profess to have an insight into the mentality of players you probably never ever spoken to. Are you trying to tell me that Charlie Adam cares after what we have seen from him this year? Choupo? Berahino? Wimmer? They all care do they
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 21, 2018 12:40:12 GMT
Bauer, shawcross, BMI, Allen and badou for me. The rest I cannot stand in truth.
Butland, I believe is a decent character and good bloke so it is harsh to exclude him simply because he's not in the best of form but we all know he'll be off at the first opportunity and that makes it harder to warm to him during his struggles
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Mar 21, 2018 12:41:48 GMT
Ooooo Good game, Here's my Scary 11 1, Butland 2, Wilko - not seen enough of Bauer yet. 3, Pieters 4, Whelan 5, Ryan 6, Huth 7, Pennant 8, Bojan 9, Walters 10, Fuller 11, Ethers No shaq? No nzonzi? No arnie? yeh, controversial I know. for me Ethers and Pennant were more consistent that Shaq and Arnie. I still have a little bonner for Bojan over what could have been, the last season Zonz was here he was phenomenal, but the three seasons before and the constant transfer requests still leave a little bit of a bitter taste.
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