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Post by Miles Offside on Mar 13, 2018 18:41:45 GMT
Unless I'm missing something blindingly obvious there are only three ways to move the ball up the pitch to attack the opposition.
Pass it, run with it, or knock it long to a target man and compete for the knock-downs.
We're just not very good at the first two, but Crouch is ideal for the third. And he'd need a partner with Shaq behind them.
Basic football, nobody likes it. But make the most of what you've got instead of trying to play a style that's beyond the players.
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Post by werrington on Mar 13, 2018 18:43:56 GMT
If you think Crouch is the answer then you are definitely missing the blindingly obvious ....he either plays in 442 or not at all ...otherwise see you in the championship
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 18:46:41 GMT
If you think Crouch is the answer then you are definitely missing the blindingly obvious ....he either plays in 442 or not at all ...otherwise see you in the championship Who is the answer out of what we have left? Bob in Row 3? |
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Post by Miles Offside on Mar 13, 2018 18:46:54 GMT
If you think Crouch is the answer then you are definitely missing the blindingly obvious See you in the championship You think we're not going there by playing Choupo or Jese as a lone striker? How many times does that have to fail? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 18:48:11 GMT
Unless I'm missing something blindingly obvious there are only three ways to move the ball up the pitch to attack the opposition. Pass it, run with it, or knock it long to a target man and compete for the knock-downs. We're just not very good at the first two, but Crouch is ideal for the third. And he'd need a partner with Shaq behind them. Basic football, nobody likes it. But make the most of what you've got instead of trying to play a style that's beyond the players. When we play with Crouch the defence pushes up, so he wins knockdowns on the half way line, it's pointless unless it's last 20 mins and we're all over the opposition. We can pass alright, we just don't have a number 10 to be creative. Play 4231 and we'd be able to. |
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Post by werrington on Mar 13, 2018 18:48:57 GMT
If you think Crouch is the answer then you are definitely missing the blindingly obvious See you in the championship You think we're not going there by playing Choupo or Jese as a lone striker? How many times does that have to fail? I’d fuck them all off mate and recall N’Goy and play Campbell as there’s literally nothing to lose and maybe just maybe something to gain Our forward line is utter rancid |
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Mar 13, 2018 18:49:22 GMT
If we did start playing him, we need to hit the box with quality at any chance we get. Edwards is the best crosser of the ball at the club by a mile.
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Post by Miles Offside on Mar 13, 2018 18:53:08 GMT
You think we're not going there by playing Choupo or Jese as a lone striker? How many times does that have to fail? I’d fuck them all off mate and recall N’Goy and play Campbell as there’s literally nothing to lose and maybe just maybe something to gain Our forward line is utter rancid It is, you're right. But I don't think bringing young lads into this chaos is the answer. We won't get the wins we need without scoring goals, and we can't keep relying on Shaquiri from 25 yards. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 13, 2018 18:55:21 GMT
Everything's going to okay - Mame's on his way back...
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 13, 2018 18:59:24 GMT
Playing the ball long to Crouch beats playing the ball long to nobody in paeticular.
Weirdly, we spent the first hour happily whacking the ball up the pitch for Jese and Shaqiri, but seemed reluctant to do the same when Crouch came on.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Mar 13, 2018 19:00:50 GMT
Think Crouch has been smashing for us but sorry he looks a shadow of his former self. Every time he now plays we just hoof it up to him and he either wins the knock down to no one (not his fault), or get fouled (never given) or fouls
Great guy who should have hung his boots up last season. Yet again SCFC take the soft/cheap/sentimental option
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Post by Miles Offside on Mar 13, 2018 19:01:40 GMT
Everything's going to okay - Mame's on his way back... As long as he doesn't then have to play up front on his own. Tried that. Doesn't work. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 19:01:54 GMT
Playing the ball long to Crouch beats playing the ball long to nobody in paeticular. Weirdly, we spent the first hour happily whacking the ball up the pitch for Jese and Shaqiri, but seemed reluctant to do the same when Crouch came on. I can't remember the last time we brought Crouch on and put constant balls into the box for him. it's strange. |
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Post by werrington on Mar 13, 2018 19:04:15 GMT
I’d fuck them all off mate and recall N’Goy and play Campbell as there’s literally nothing to lose and maybe just maybe something to gain Our forward line is utter rancid It is, you're right. But I don't think bringing young lads into this chaos is the answer. We won't get the wins we need without scoring goals, and we can't keep relying on Shaquiri from 25 yards. We haven’t got or looked like getting the wins with the current forwards so I honestly don’t get your point ? |
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Post by Miles Offside on Mar 13, 2018 19:07:28 GMT
Every time he now plays we just hoof it up to him and he either wins the knock down to no one (not his fault) /quote] He does win more than his fair share in the air. Then there's nobody for the knock-downs because we keep persisting with this failed system of a single isolated striker. It doesn't work. Put a partner alongside Crouch with Shaq behind them and we've got something to play to. |
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Post by superheroantonius on Mar 13, 2018 19:11:31 GMT
Crouchy is fine, if he is surrounded by out and out pace e.g. cameron jerome, jamie vardy , nathan redmond etc
But we dont have any of these players!
He is a decent finisher and remarkably good at dodging injury. So all we have to do, to have him as an option, and get a few more years out of him, is have a couple of speedsters on the books.
For some reason, we have decided not to do this. Nobody knows why!!!
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Post by Miles Offside on Mar 13, 2018 19:16:04 GMT
It is, you're right. But I don't think bringing young lads into this chaos is the answer. We won't get the wins we need without scoring goals, and we can't keep relying on Shaquiri from 25 yards. We haven’t got or looked like getting the wins with the current forwards so I honestly don’t get your point ? We keep playing one up front, but none of the forwards we've got can play that role. They all look isolated and it doesn't bring goals. We're not a passing side and we've got no pace, so play it long to Crouch but support him with a partner and Shaq behind them. |
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Post by superheroantonius on Mar 13, 2018 19:17:54 GMT
We definately missed a trick not keeping him and cameron jerome.
Crouchy in his day, was a much better player than jerome, but the two of them would have bought the best out of each Other.
Would have been a difficult pairing to keep a lid on.
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Post by werrington on Mar 13, 2018 19:19:19 GMT
We haven’t got or looked like getting the wins with the current forwards so I honestly don’t get your point ? We keep playing one up front, but none of the forwards we've got can play that role. They all look isolated and it doesn't bring goals. We're not a passing side and we've got no pace, so play it long to Crouch but support him with a partner and Shaq behind them. I said 442 in my first post ? Diouf is the only one of this lot who makes us look better playing one up top Not for his goals but for his harrying of defenders and chasing the channels |
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Post by eatonpotter on Mar 13, 2018 19:21:14 GMT
If you think Crouch is the answer then you are definitely missing the blindingly obvious ....he either plays in 442 or not at all ...otherwise see you in the championship Who is the answer out of what we have left? Bob in Row 3? Bob is 75, but still got another 2 seasons left in him 😀 |
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Post by Miles Offside on Mar 13, 2018 19:23:26 GMT
We keep playing one up front, but none of the forwards we've got can play that role. They all look isolated and it doesn't bring goals. We're not a passing side and we've got no pace, so play it long to Crouch but support him with a partner and Shaq behind them. I said 442 in my first post ? Diouf is the only one of this lot who makes us look better playing one up top Not for his goals but for his harrying of defenders and chasing the channels I agree that I'd play Diouf (if he was fit) alongside Crouch. But if Shaq's playing on the right then it's a myth that we're playing with a midfield four. Bloke's never won a 50-50 in his life. Push him up where he belongs - behind a front two. |
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Post by werrington on Mar 13, 2018 19:25:17 GMT
I said 442 in my first post ? Diouf is the only one of this lot who makes us look better playing one up top Not for his goals but for his harrying of defenders and chasing the channels I agree that I'd play Diouf (if he was fit) alongside Crouch. But if Shaq's playing on the right then it's a myth that we're playing with a midfield four. Bloke's never won a 50-50 in his life. Push him up where he belongs - behind a front two. I put on another thread mate we played 442 with Crouch and Diouf up top v Huddersfield and won the match yet it’s never been seen since |
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Post by Miles Offside on Mar 13, 2018 19:28:43 GMT
I agree that I'd play Diouf (if he was fit) alongside Crouch. But if Shaq's playing on the right then it's a myth that we're playing with a midfield four. Bloke's never won a 50-50 in his life. Push him up where he belongs - behind a front two. I put on another thread mate we played 442 with Crouch and Diouf up top v Huddersfield and won the match yet it’s never been seen since Yep, it's bizarre. Premier League manager groupthink - we must play with only one up top. It doesn't work for us. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 19:35:39 GMT
If Crouch plays then Shaqiri needs to play very close to him. It worked at Spurs with Van de Vaart. Weve got to win on Saturday and the present system aint working
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 13, 2018 19:40:20 GMT
If Crouch plays then Shaqiri needs to play very close to him. It worked at Spurs with Van de Vaart. Weve got to win on Saturday and the present system aint working It didn't actually work with Van de Vaart hence they wanted shut of Crouch and he ended up with us. |
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Post by potterblade on Mar 13, 2018 19:48:00 GMT
Joe Allen behind Crouch in a 4-4-1-1 would keep us solid and offer more up front than we can muster now.
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Post by potterglen on Mar 13, 2018 19:49:33 GMT
Unless I'm missing something blindingly obvious there are only three ways to move the ball up the pitch to attack the opposition. Pass it, run with it, or knock it long to a target man and compete for the knock-downs. We're just not very good at the first two, but Crouch is ideal for the third. And he'd need a partner with Shaq behind them. Basic football, nobody likes it. But make the most of what you've got instead of trying to play a style that's beyond the players. [/quot Sorry, can’t take you serious. I must be watching different games because by lumping it up (to Crouch or Chumpo) we’ve failed to score anything like enough goals, infact the vast majority of Crouch/Chumpo’s headers have been intercepted by the opposition. I’d rather go down with a bang, put Shaq in the No 10 position with Jese or Diouf and run at defenders or get on the end of a through ball, having a go at playing football might be a bit more entertaining too. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 19:51:29 GMT
Crouch with a massive 3 goals this season?
Crouch who aimless flicks it on to nobody so the opposition just let him head it unchallenged and pick up the loose ball?
The fact is all the forwards we have are a bag of shit. 8 goals between them all, all season.
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Post by chad on Mar 13, 2018 19:53:48 GMT
As much as it’s bloody annoying I agree with the original poster
Crouch is the best option Need to change other things. He as to have a partner close to him to feed of him. I’ve not much time for Jesse but he owes us big time and maybe him and Crouchy might work
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Post by Miles Offside on Apr 6, 2018 10:12:22 GMT
We haven't got the players who will out-run or out-pass Spurs tomorrow, so we need to try Crouch plus a partner up front.
We all know what happens when we're under pressure - we just tonk a high ball at whoever is up front. And most of the time it comes straight back at us.
Ryan nine-irons it a few times each game. The only way we're going to win any high balls is to play Crouch, but even that's pointless if there's nobody to play off him.
And, yes, I know it's the Peter Crouch that's scored only four all season - but he takes fewer minutes on the pitch to score than any of our other "strikers".
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