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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 13, 2018 21:16:56 GMT
Also bear in mind he wasn't particularly good at organising a decent defence like ours so what the fuck he's going to do with Saints shit shower of a defence God alone knows.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 13, 2018 21:30:13 GMT
I think this is good news for us, Hughes is a notoriously slow starter, if the Southampton board are looking for a new manager 'bounce', then really, they haven't done their homework here.
Also, I don't think many people realise just how much turmoil West Ham are in as a club right now, the club is in total chaos, many Hammers are hoping that they actually DO get relegated, if ultimately it means they can be rid of Gold, Sullivan and Brady.
We might not have the goods to save ourselves but by some quirk of fate, West Ham and Southampton might actually do it for us.
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Post by lordb on Mar 13, 2018 21:31:15 GMT
I think this is good news for us, Hughes is a notoriously slow starter, if the Southampton board are looking for a new manager 'bounce', then really, they haven't done their homework here. Also I don't think many people realise just how much turmoil West Ham are in as club right now, the club in total chaos, many Hammers are hoping thst they actually DO get relegated if it means they can be rid of Gold, Sullivan and Brady. We might not have the goods to save ourselves but by some quirk of fate, West Ham and Southampton might actually do it for us. We could just win a football match or two,that would stir it up
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 21:34:23 GMT
Just our luck if they get Stokelona Hughes and not Lesley Mark I'm a fuckwit who plays strikers at right-wing back and insists on three at the back when we have no wingbacks Hughes and leads them to survival
I hope it's the latter 😁
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Post by mermaidsal on Mar 13, 2018 21:38:59 GMT
If by any remote insane pair of long shots Sparky did get the job and then did keep them up at our expense I wouldn't be the only Stokie to die of the irony.
Trouble is it's not impossible - tbh I think he probably WOULD keep them up, because he wouldn't be taking over a squad he's had too long to unbalance and demoralise, suspect it would be much like his first months with us. In any other circs I might even be wishing him luck.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 13, 2018 21:42:50 GMT
If by any remote insane pair of long shots Sparky did get the job and then did keep them up at our expense I wouldn't be the only Stokie to die of the irony. Trouble is it's not impossible - tbh I think he probably WOULD keep them up, because he wouldn't be taking over a squad he's had too long to unbalance and demoralise, suspect it would be much like his first months with us. In any other circs I might even be wishing him luck. I think he has more to work with than Lambert, player wise.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 13, 2018 21:43:03 GMT
Only a deal 'til the end of the season!
Southampton hope to appoint Mark Hughes as their new manager on Wednesday. The former Stoke City boss has been offered a contract until the end of the season
Hughes, 54, will bring his assistants Mark Bowen and Eddie Niedzwiecki with him, the three having worked together extensively at Hughes’ five previous jobs in the Premier League. The club were in negotiations with Hughes, who is representing himself in the talks, for most of Tuesday and hope to have him working with the squad by midweek.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Mar 13, 2018 21:45:02 GMT
I think this is good news for us, Hughes is a notoriously slow starter, if the Southampton board are looking for a new manager 'bounce', then really, they haven't done their homework here. Also I don't think many people realise just how much turmoil West Ham are in as club right now, the club in total chaos, many Hammers are hoping thst they actually DO get relegated if it means they can be rid of Gold, Sullivan and Brady. We might not have the goods to save ourselves but by some quirk of fate, West Ham and Southampton might actually do it for us. We could just win a football match or two,that would stir it up If only we could score a goal or two, that would be a start.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 13, 2018 22:24:02 GMT
If by any remote insane pair of long shots Sparky did get the job and then did keep them up at our expense I wouldn't be the only Stokie to die of the irony. Trouble is it's not impossible - tbh I think he probably WOULD keep them up, because he wouldn't be taking over a squad he's had too long to unbalance and demoralise, suspect it would be much like his first months with us. In any other circs I might even be wishing him luck. His first months with us saw us in the bottom three at the start of February Sal.
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 13, 2018 22:26:42 GMT
Will he take his and Bowen's sons with him, or will they continue to be employed by Stoke?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Mar 13, 2018 22:33:19 GMT
Only 6 managers have more premier league wins than mark Hughes , and guess what ours isn’t one of them , the nightmare scenario is alive and well , Arnie Saves West Ham , hughes saves Southampton , Pulis takes Boro up , scholes Cartwright and lambert take us down some price tag on self sufficiency
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Post by lordb on Mar 13, 2018 22:40:39 GMT
Only 6 managers have more premier league wins than mark Hughes , and guess what ours isn’t one of them , the nightmare scenario is alive and well , Arnie Saves West Ham , hughes saves Southampton , Pulis takes Boro up , scholes Cartwright and lambert take us down some price tag on self sufficiency Odds are against both Southampton AND West Ham staying up. Anyway perhaps we should have gone for De Boer or Pellegrino "top European managers",your words.
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Post by mermaidsal on Mar 13, 2018 23:00:59 GMT
If by any remote insane pair of long shots Sparky did get the job and then did keep them up at our expense I wouldn't be the only Stokie to die of the irony. Trouble is it's not impossible - tbh I think he probably WOULD keep them up, because he wouldn't be taking over a squad he's had too long to unbalance and demoralise, suspect it would be much like his first months with us. In any other circs I might even be wishing him luck. His first months with us saw us in the bottom three at the start of February Sal. My face was already red, sorry! We were playing better tho
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Post by professorplump on Mar 14, 2018 0:36:21 GMT
I think Hughes will keep Southampton up if he goes there. He tends to start well at most clubs. It might go pear shaped in a couple of years time but that's not going to help us now. He’s actually a notorious slow starter at most clubs he’s been at. Then things gradually improve (until he either moves on or sticks around too long and they go shit again). He was a slow starter at Stoke because he had to change the style from Pulisball to something more attractive. He won't have that issue at Southampton. They have a better squad than we do and any decent manager should be able to keep them up.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 14, 2018 0:43:44 GMT
His introductory round of media interviews could be interesting. Will he take the opportunity to throw Coates, Scholes or the Pizza Boys under the bus? There'll be a hush hush agreement as part of his pay off with us surely like when Pulis left.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 14, 2018 7:50:17 GMT
He’s actually a notorious slow starter at most clubs he’s been at. Then things gradually improve (until he either moves on or sticks around too long and they go shit again). He was a slow starter at Stoke because he had to change the style from Pulisball to something more attractive. He won't have that issue at Southampton. They have a better squad than we do and any decent manager should be able to keep them up.
He's been a slow starter virtually everywhere. Even the clubs he did well at. And he surely will have to change something sharpish at Soton because despite the talent in their squad on paper they look one of the most sluggish, moribund, negative sides in the league and that doesn't wash off quickly, as we know.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 14, 2018 8:01:52 GMT
What I don't understand is why Moyes and Hughes are (rightly) only being given contracts to the end of the season, yet we've given Lambert 2.5 years?
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Post by potterblade on Mar 14, 2018 8:37:44 GMT
What I don't understand is why Moyes and Hughes are (rightly) only being given contracts to the end of the season, yet we've given Lambert 2.5 years? Because we don't just hire and fire willy-nilly... Also it's a cheap contingency plan.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 14, 2018 8:39:27 GMT
What I don't understand is why Moyes and Hughes are (rightly) only being given contracts to the end of the season, yet we've given Lambert 2.5 years? True. www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-paul-lambert-celtic-1026480He was desperate (and had recently been beaten to the Hull job by Nigel sodding Adkins!) and was putting himself forward as willing to come in on a short-term deal 48 hours after Hughes left. Seems very odd that we've boxed ourselves in like this unless we do have some break clause. Looks like Hughes is effectively taking an 8-wk shit or bust contract - and looking at their fixtures, it's likely to be 'shit'
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 14, 2018 8:44:01 GMT
What I don't understand is why Moyes and Hughes are (rightly) only being given contracts to the end of the season, yet we've given Lambert 2.5 years? Because we don't just hire and fire willy-nilly... Also it's a cheap contingency plan. What's the contingency plan sorry? Surely it's pretty inflexible to just sign any manager to a long term deal because 'you don't hire and fire willy-nilly'? In some circumstances a short term deal and seeing how you go is better surely?
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Post by thegift on Mar 14, 2018 9:11:18 GMT
Given their run of fixtures, and their position in the league, Hughes would be absolutely crazy to take this job, i'm sure hes not short of cash either.
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Post by potterblade on Mar 14, 2018 9:13:42 GMT
Because we don't just hire and fire willy-nilly... Also it's a cheap contingency plan. What's the contingency plan sorry? Surely it's pretty inflexible to just sign any manager to a long term deal because 'you don't hire and fire willy-nilly'? In some circumstances a short term deal and seeing how you go is better surely? The contingency plan is surely to have a competent manager at Championship level when we get relegated. Probably better than having to fanny about finding someone new again but I don't like it. Short term contract with a juicy survival bonus would seem more sensible.
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Post by potterblade on Mar 14, 2018 9:14:24 GMT
Given their run of fixtures, and their position in the league, Hughes would be absolutely crazy to take this job, i'm sure hes not short of cash either. Neither are Southampton!
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Post by Gods on Mar 14, 2018 9:21:20 GMT
Be odd if next season we are swanning around in the Championship with Lambo while Sparky and TP are giving it large in the Prem at Southampton and Middlesboro wouldn't it? I don't know what our Chief Executive and Board of Directors would think but I'd break down and cry!
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Post by thegift on Mar 14, 2018 9:22:58 GMT
Given their run of fixtures, and their position in the league, Hughes would be absolutely crazy to take this job, i'm sure hes not short of cash either. Neither are Southampton! Why ruin your already tarnished reputation any more?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 14, 2018 9:30:07 GMT
What's the contingency plan sorry? Surely it's pretty inflexible to just sign any manager to a long term deal because 'you don't hire and fire willy-nilly'? In some circumstances a short term deal and seeing how you go is better surely? The contingency plan is surely to have a competent manager at Championship level when we get relegated. Probably better than having to fanny about finding someone new again but I don't like it. Short term contract with a juicy survival bonus would seem more sensible. More people become available in the close season though. You’re more aware of the landscape, who’s available, who you might attract. Instead we’ve boxed ourselves in.
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Post by potterblade on Mar 14, 2018 9:30:32 GMT
Why ruin your already tarnished reputation any more? I don't think he can save them and I think Hughes has to think very carefully about his next job. Sounds like it's happening though and all I know is there will be a lot more money on the table than we were paying him.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 14, 2018 9:30:53 GMT
Be odd if next season we are swanning around in the Championship with Lambo while Sparky and TP are giving it large in the Prem at Southampton and Middlesboro wouldn't it? I don't know what our Chief Executibe and Borad of Directors would think but I'd break down and cry! You seem convinced that 19 teams will survive this season Gods and only one will be relegated.
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Post by thegift on Mar 14, 2018 9:39:55 GMT
Why ruin your already tarnished reputation any more? I don't think he can save them and I think Hughes has to think very carefully about his next job. Sounds like it's happening though and all I know is there will be a lot more money on the table than we were paying him. Well i would love to play them next year. LOVE TOO. Mark and his cronies can fuck right off. One of the worst premier league managers ever, ruined club after club and had 1 lucky decent role at Blackburn
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Post by mrred on Mar 14, 2018 10:08:31 GMT
I'm not sure how he'd familiarize himself with their players if he never takes a fucking training session.
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