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Post by thegift on Mar 7, 2018 21:10:28 GMT
To add to the list of crimes wasn't Atkinson the 'referee' at Sunderland when Cattermole punched the ball over to save the ball going in the top corner and he gave a goal kick? I believe Atkinson really holds grudges against us
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Post by thegift on Mar 7, 2018 21:10:56 GMT
To add to the list of crimes wasn't Atkinson the 'referee' at Sunderland when Cattermole punched the ball over to save the ball going in the top corner and he gave a goal kick? I believe Atkinson really holds grudges against us
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Post by johnnypotter on Mar 7, 2018 21:15:38 GMT
Absolutely McNally for me, Burnley away in the 3rd round of the F.A Cup, 79-80 season, we lost 1-0 and both Denis Smith and Ray Evans were sent off for us. I had never seen Denis so angry as that day. That referee turned the atmosphere toxic among our following, I knew of Stokies who had never been involved in disorder in the years prior to that game and in subsequent years. However, such was the feeling of injustice among our following, that when goaded by Burnley fans in the streets after the game, some of our more mild mannered fans decided enough was enough.
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Post by Absolution on Mar 7, 2018 21:19:32 GMT
I didn’t have the pleasure of seeing the Styles show v Gillingham or Twatkinson v Newcastle. So for me it’s got to be Andy Hall’s abysmally one sided starring role in the match v Coventry when both managers appeared together at the press conference afterwards to confirm that we had indeed just seen one of the all time worst refereeing performances. For me it's both of these for different reasons. Andy Hall's performance against Coventry was just pure incompetence. He was equally as shit for both sides which is why the managers held a joint press conference to criticise him together. He was an absolute disgrace and his incompetence would have been a big story had this been a Premier League game. Rob Styles was a different type of terrible, he was corrupt. There's no doubt in my mind that he was told to stop us getting to the final to avoid the prospect of Stoke and Millwall meeting in the final. We still had a very active hooligan element at the time and if my memory served me right England were still in the running to host the 2006 World Cup at the time and the FA were very keen to show that the English hooligan problem was in the past. Tens of thousands of Stoke and Millwall fans together for a Wembley final would be guaranteed to kick off big time and the FA were desperate to avoid that embarrassment at such a sensitive time. We won the first leg and they got worried and instructed Styles to do what he did in my opinion. Neither Stoke nor Millwall reached the final that season and I don't think it was a coincidence. Got to disagree with you about the Coventry match Sam. Admittedly, the ref booked Gary McAllister for 'clapping sarcastically', but aside from that he gave them everything. He sent off two of our players for nowt. McAllister wanted to do the joint press conference afterwards because he said that if Pulis criticised the ref it would just look like sour grapes and he wanted people to know that that wasn't the case. I agree with the Gillingham World Cup theory. It was doubly important that we didn't get to Wembley because the other team involved in the play-off semis was Wigan and we'd been involved in trouble with them earlier that season. So basically if we beat Gillingham, whoever we played there was the possibility of trouble.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2018 21:26:35 GMT
I think McNally was banned from refereeing after that game
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Post by harrysburrow on Mar 7, 2018 21:37:18 GMT
Rob Stykes - Gillingham away.
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Post by harrysburrow on Mar 7, 2018 21:37:52 GMT
Rob Styles.
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Post by donaldingleton on Mar 7, 2018 23:43:47 GMT
One for the oldies......Les Hamer from Bolton, but I can’t remember why!!!
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Post by kjpt140v on Mar 7, 2018 23:52:16 GMT
Kevin McNally. No more to be said.
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Post by kjpt140v on Mar 8, 2018 0:10:55 GMT
I think McNally was banned from refereeing after that game No he wasn't but he did get done for smuggling in later years. I remember Garth Crooks chasing after him down the tunnel, unusually McNally didn't wait for the players to leave the pitch. Durban grabbed hold of Crooks to prevent Crooks getting a life ban and McNally from a long stay in hospital. If I remember correctly Burnley got a real thumping at QPR (8-1?) the week before, their young keeper making his debut. Stoke were in the old Division one and Burnley were in Division two. My vivid memories are of a crazy sending off for Evans, Smith being sent off over a substitution mix up, a copper losing his helmet, him disappearing into the crowd LEGS in the air and after the game masses of cops and horses jostling us all over the shop. PS. I also remember that whilst on the bus in Burnley traffic a bunch of Burnley fans giving us shit. Unfortunately for them our bus stopped in the traffic and Stokies got off of our bus and others buses and chased them away, hilarious as no one was hurt and the coaches waited for them to get back on.
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Mar 8, 2018 8:15:50 GMT
Uriah Rennie Stoke v Milwall probably the most biased referring I have ever seen.
We kicked 7 shades of shit out of most of the Millwall players hardly gave them a free kick.
Also how Taggart wasn't sent off I'll never know.
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Post by thegift on Mar 8, 2018 14:56:21 GMT
Uriah Rennie Stoke v Milwall probably the most biased referring I have ever seen. We kicked 7 shades of shit out of most of the Millwall players hardly gave them a free kick. Also how Taggart wasn't sent off I'll never know. Well then that's great refereeing isn't it?
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Post by emmbrook1956 on Mar 8, 2018 16:10:23 GMT
Styles' performance wasn't poor, in fact from an FA point of view it was just what 'the doctor' ordered. He cheated to suit the FA agenda, nothing will convince me otherwise. Agreed they did not want Stoke playing Millwall at Wembley!
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Post by cheadlepotter on Mar 8, 2018 16:27:44 GMT
I’ve seen many inept performances over the years. Styles probably the worst but the finest example of big club bias I’ve ever seen was Gary Neville, already booked, going straight through Matty Etherington. It was that late it was almost Monday. The ref gave the free kick and no more. Ferguson bought him off at half time and they all had a good giggle about it.
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Post by E1 Potter on Mar 8, 2018 17:15:58 GMT
Anyone remember Millwall away - either very late 80s or very early 90s. Technically linesman rather than ref but they scored a goal so offside it was incredible. I remember the look of total disbelief on Carl Beeston’s face when the flag didn’t go up! Must admit I didn’t go but saw the incident on TV the next night.
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Post by marcofstoke on Mar 8, 2018 19:46:15 GMT
Styles' performance wasn't poor, in fact from an FA point of view it was just what 'the doctor' ordered. He cheated to suit the FA agenda, nothing will convince me otherwise. Styles last game the West Bromwich Albion and Manchester United match in January 2009. He sent off West Brom defender Paul Robinson five minutes before half time.[9] In the following days the red card was overturned by the F.A. Two days after the overturning Styles retired from refereeing, citing the lack of support from the FA as his main reason.[10]
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Post by elystokie on Mar 8, 2018 20:55:55 GMT
Styles' performance wasn't poor, in fact from an FA point of view it was just what 'the doctor' ordered. He cheated to suit the FA agenda, nothing will convince me otherwise. Styles last game the West Bromwich Albion and Manchester United match in January 2009. He sent off West Brom defender Paul Robinson five minutes before half time.[9] In the following days the red card was overturned by the F.A. Two days after the overturning Styles retired from refereeing, citing the lack of support from the FA as his main reason.[10] Are we assuming that it's the same people at the helm of the FA ten years later? I've no idea if that's the case or not, perhaps you do? It could just as easily have been a convenient juncture for both parties to achieve 'closure'? One thing's for certain, his performance certainly doesn't appear to have done his career much harm in the ten year period that followed that game.
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Post by pearo on Mar 8, 2018 21:19:36 GMT
Pat Partridge at Hillsborough v Arsenal FA cup semi final, makes Styles and Atkinson look good!!!
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Mar 8, 2018 21:49:12 GMT
Anyone remember Millwall away - either very late 80s or very early 90s. Technically linesman rather than ref but they scored a goal so offside it was incredible. I remember the look of total disbelief on Carl Beeston’s face when the flag didn’t go up! Must admit I didn’t go but saw the incident on TV the next night. I think it was a cup match and we were just going to put George berry on to take a penalty in the shoot out. I think it was Tony cascerino who was miles offside.
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Post by lordb on Mar 8, 2018 21:53:18 GMT
Anyone remember Millwall away - either very late 80s or very early 90s. Technically linesman rather than ref but they scored a goal so offside it was incredible. I remember the look of total disbelief on Carl Beeston’s face when the flag didn’t go up! Must admit I didn’t go but saw the incident on TV the next night. I think it was a cup match and we were just going to put George berry on to take a penalty in the shoot out. I think it was Tony cascerino who was miles offside. Other than Fox Cascarino was the only player in our half. To be fair to the linesman the fences had recently come down. His motivation was clear. The only time I saw Mills angry. Bamber missed more absolute sitters that night than any player ever.
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Post by roylandstoke on Mar 8, 2018 21:58:57 GMT
I didn't see Styles at Gillingham but it sounded shocking.
Atkinson at Newcastle takes some beating however I do believe that McNally at Burnley was worse.
The 3 I've mentioned so far were criminally biased to the point of corruption.
For sheer incompetence Andy Hall against Coventry at home was a stand-out.
Vut the winner has to be...McNally for sending Denis off for time wasting as he was hobbling off the pitch to be subbed.
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Post by Onneravineet on Mar 8, 2018 22:48:47 GMT
Peter Walton for his Ryan sending off.
Twatkinson vs 5-1 at Castle
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Post by robstokie on Mar 8, 2018 22:49:57 GMT
Too many to remember - I think Twatkinson gets the nod though, we were comfortable against Newcastle until he gave everything against us
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 0:02:33 GMT
To add to the list of crimes wasn't Atkinson the 'referee' at Sunderland when Cattermole punched the ball over to save the ball going in the top corner and he gave a goal kick? This. Possible the most angry I've ever been over a game of football, mainly due to the fact I passionately loathe them cunts. Glorious season they're having this yer I can't help but like Mike Dean, when he's not reffing our games.
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Post by march4 on Mar 9, 2018 1:00:04 GMT
I've seen quite a few that have convinced me that 'other forces' were at work including Styles against Gillingham, but for pure comedy gold (it didn't feel like comedy at the time though) nothing beats McNally's game when we played Burnley away and Smithy got sent off for wasting time when we were losing 2-1. But back in those days we called them 'Homers', and McNally was the perfect example of that, so much so that even the Burnley fans were having a good chuckle at his antics. OS. If I remember correctly we were trying to sub Denis who was injured and limping badly. As Denis dragged himself to the touch line he was sent off for time wasting. We were even trying to bring on a striker in an attempt to save the game. I agree with all the suggestions here but my nightmares about refs begin and end with FA Cup semi-finals against Arsenal.
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Mar 9, 2018 7:54:50 GMT
If I remember rightly in that Coventry game Wayne Thomas was booked in the first minute for a nothing challenge.
So that meant for every tackle after fans were calling for yellow cards.
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Post by DentySCFC on Mar 9, 2018 8:12:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 13:09:10 GMT
Whoever it was that mistook the programme seller for a Stoke player in the semi final against Arse back in 71
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Post by jarvinski on Mar 9, 2018 16:49:44 GMT
Goodison Park 1972 FA Cup semi final, versus jammy fucking Arsenal
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Post by raythesailor on Mar 9, 2018 17:53:19 GMT
I’ve seen many inept performances over the years. Styles probably the worst but the finest example of big club bias I’ve ever seen was Gary Neville, already booked, going straight through Matty Etherington. It was that late it was almost Monday. The ref gave the free kick and no more. Ferguson bought him off at half time and they all had a good giggle about it. Neville has spoken about this. It was as a result of this incident that he realised it was time to retire. More disturbing is that he said that the Ref called Ferguson into his dressing room at half time and suggested that it would be a good idea to sub him as he could not let him get away with anther one ! As a result we played the second half against 11 and not ten. I don’t know if this true, but only repeating what I heard.
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