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Post by thegift on Mar 7, 2018 10:37:19 GMT
The linesman closest to us against Leicester was fucking terrible the other day. As for referees, I wouldn't even know where to start. I don't think they do it on purpose, but some decisions are absolutely terrible. They do say it evens out, so we're due some more penalties for Charlie & Jese to fight over soon. Or penalties against us as we've missed a few. We have had our luck. Charlie adam's double miss peno wasn't even a pen in the first place against Brighton.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Mar 7, 2018 11:00:22 GMT
The Atkinson show at Newcastle will live long in the memory, however there have been so many "Look at me" performances over recent years it's difficult to choose.
It used to be if you had a shit ref you talked about it for months, maybe even all season. now it just a case of how shit the ref is going to be, Shit or absolutely, obviously corrupt.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Mar 7, 2018 12:01:38 GMT
The Atkinson show at Newcastle will live long in the memory, however there have been so many "Look at me" performances over recent years it's difficult to choose. It used to be if you had a shit ref you talked about it for months, maybe even all season. now it just a case of how shit the ref is going to be, Shit or absolutely, obviously corrupt. Mike Dean - the absolute epitome of the superstar look at me referee. No surprise at all he constantly gets overlooked for international tournaments and has barely reffed at all in Europe. Aside from sending Wilko off at Portsmouth for pretty much nothing, I don't actually think he was that desperate against us, Atkinson has a much worse charge sheet. Dean just appears to want to be the star on the pitch, not the players.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2018 12:03:03 GMT
Many years ago a game at the Vic against Sheffield United I think it was a midweek game the ref was shite.
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Post by raythesailor on Mar 7, 2018 12:48:50 GMT
I find it difficult to remember Reffing displays but has already been said The Atkinson display at Newcastle was truly appalling and should of resulted in his removal from the list for incompetence.
Did he not also send Hughes to the stand, or am I confused ?
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Post by thegift on Mar 7, 2018 12:49:07 GMT
Many years ago a game at the Vic against Sheffield United I think it was a midweek game the ref was shite. Simod cup, we won 1-0?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 7, 2018 13:10:03 GMT
Styles at Gillingham for me. There was a definite agenda that day in the second leg. The thing that transcended Styles effort that night from just fans moaning and an off night from the ref, wasn't the decisions that punished us so much but his obvious and complete lack of willingness to apply a similar view to Gillingham's conduct. There's a hell of a lot shit talked about refs and fans are the most one eyed participants in the game but there was something sinister at work that night in Kent, of that I have absolutely no doubt.
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Post by 1982stokie on Mar 7, 2018 13:21:18 GMT
Some years ago at the Brit versus Coventry we had 2 sent off, disgraceful refereeing even the Coventry boss crititised him post match. He was a young red on a so called fast track to the top but can't remember his name think he refs in the prem now but not sure. I remember that game, if memory serves me right Gunnersson was sent of for a high boot when he went in to a challenge with 2 Coventry players who both had there boots equally as high
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Post by 1982stokie on Mar 7, 2018 13:25:58 GMT
The disallowed Shawcross goal to win it in injury time against Man city was shocking.
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Post by Mr Jon on Mar 7, 2018 13:33:57 GMT
I've seen quite a few that have convinced me that 'other forces' were at work including Styles against Gillingham, but for pure comedy gold (it didn't feel like comedy at the time though) nothing beats McNally's game when we played Burnley away and Smithy got sent off for wasting time when we were losing 2-1. But back in those days we called them 'Homers', and McNally was the perfect example of that, so much so that even the Burnley fans were having a good chuckle at his antics. OS. I was at that game OS and it was crazy! I seem to recall that McNally was jailed for fraud a few years later? Says it all really .....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2018 13:35:38 GMT
Fuller sending off when he slapped Griffin for being at fault . Ref did not see the incident. Therefore no red card should have been given. Up to Pulis to sort it after the match. Fuller is God . Are you for real?? The lino bought it to his attention, it was violent conduct
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Post by Roy Cropper on Mar 7, 2018 13:45:42 GMT
The Shawcross disallowed goal was less than a year after Sidibe's against Villa as well.
Whether or not the referee's are bias, this was a time when Stoke's paranoia about refs was genuinely understandable.
2 ghost fouls amongst other ridiculous decisions over that period, while the press were constantly writing about how we were a team of thugs. I find it hard to believe they weren't influenced by the mainstream media a little bit.
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 7, 2018 14:08:52 GMT
I've seen quite a few that have convinced me that 'other forces' were at work including Styles against Gillingham, but for pure comedy gold (it didn't feel like comedy at the time though) nothing beats McNally's game when we played Burnley away and Smithy got sent off for wasting time when we were losing 2-1. But back in those days we called them 'Homers', and McNally was the perfect example of that, so much so that even the Burnley fans were having a good chuckle at his antics. OS. I was at that game OS and it was crazy! I seem to recall that McNally was jailed for fraud a few years later? Says it all really ..... Smith got sent off for time wasting (we were losing 1-0 at the time) and then he sent a second Stoke player off for, and I quote “sarcasm”....
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Post by tnbiscuitswithtone on Mar 7, 2018 14:56:32 GMT
STYLES. STYLES.STYLES
Way above any one else
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Post by Veritas on Mar 7, 2018 15:06:15 GMT
Keith Walker for failing to give offside in the 1972 semi final replay against Arsenal at Goodison when the linesman thought the programme seller was a Stoke player!!!!
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Post by thegift on Mar 7, 2018 15:09:07 GMT
Keith Walker for failing to give offside in the 1972 semi final replay against Arsenal at Goodison when the linesman thought the programme seller was a Stoke player!!!! Before my time lol
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2018 15:16:18 GMT
Many years ago a game at the Vic against Sheffield United I think it was a midweek game the ref was shite. Simod cup, we won 1-0? Can't remember but the ref got hit by a packet of extra strong mints and Sandford picked them up and ate one. 🤔
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Post by nantwichstokie on Mar 7, 2018 15:19:04 GMT
Styles at Gillingham for me. There was a definite agenda that day in the second leg. The thing that transcended Styles effort that night from just fans moaning and an off night from the ref, wasn't the decisions that punished us so much but his obvious and complete lack of willingness to apply a similar view to Gillingham's conduct. There's a hell of a lot shit talked about refs and fans are the most one eyed participants in the game but there was something sinister at work that night in Kent, of that I have absolutely no doubt. Styles would of been devastated if Paul Connors last minute effort had dribbled over the line
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Mar 7, 2018 15:28:00 GMT
I find it difficult to remember Reffing displays but has already been said The Atkinson display at Newcastle was truly appalling and should of resulted in his removal from the list for incompetence. Did he not also send Hughes to the stand, or am I confused ? He did indeed... It'll always be my favourite Hughes moment!
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Post by icelandpotter on Mar 7, 2018 15:31:02 GMT
As some have mentioned, there was a Coventry game at the Brit, I am still gobsmacked how bad he was. It was certainly a fix.
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Post by chayzenbacon on Mar 7, 2018 15:40:12 GMT
I remember Fox getting sent off for supposed handball outside the area v Luton in the 4-4, even though they scored he ruled it out so he could send Fox off. I can't remember the Hull game though Styles Foy Twatkinson Riley Mcnally all incompetent twats of the highest order, but Styles tops it just for the importance of the match at Gillingham (he then followed it up with that home game v derby in the cup a couple of years later?) was it our 2nd season up when we had about 8 games in a row when decisions went against us and TP had words with the FA? Tuncay's goal at Everton, Sidibe's at Villa etc. ? I cant recall this game at derby?? Derby playing coming in from the right, very late in the game, attempted to cross the ball and it hit Andy Griffin who was close to the player but just inside the penalty area. It was unclear from where I sat exactly where it had hit Griffin but whether it was on the hand/arm or not it was from very close and it was absolutely twatted at him, there was no way he could have taken evasive action. I'd forgotten that this was Styles, who tops my list anyway for the corrupt farce at Gillingham. Atkinson for the 2 sendings off at 'Castle comes a very, very close second.
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Post by Stoke711 on Mar 7, 2018 15:48:25 GMT
Styles when we played Gills is the worst.
Twatkinson vs Newcastle.
The prick Marriner who didnt send Gary Neville off for what should have been a second booking v Man U.
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Post by thegift on Mar 7, 2018 15:50:14 GMT
Out of pure interest, off subject, who referee'd us at Molineux when Woodgate should of been sent off a number of times and we ended up bringing him off as it was that bad?
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Post by raythesailor on Mar 7, 2018 16:32:42 GMT
I find it difficult to remember Reffing displays but has already been said The Atkinson display at Newcastle was truly appalling and should of resulted in his removal from the list for incompetence. Did he not also send Hughes to the stand, or am I confused ? He did indeed... It'll always be my favourite Hughes moment! Thank you. Great post and pics.
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Post by JetBlack on Mar 7, 2018 16:42:17 GMT
For me, it has to be Atkinson & Dean, both throbbers of the highest order.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Mar 7, 2018 16:50:12 GMT
Fuller sending off when he slapped Griffin for being at fault . Ref did not see the incident. Therefore no red card should have been given. Up to Pulis to sort it after the match. Fuller is God . Are you for real?? The lino bought it to his attention, it was violent conduct Actually if you look at the video on youtube, the ref. was looking straight at it. But, as you say, it was indisputably violent conduct and the decision was right. Fuller might be god, but no-one else was to blame for us going down to 10 that day.
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Post by Godo on Mar 7, 2018 16:50:22 GMT
I think the ridiculous qunts name was McNally and Denis Smith was sent off for deciding not to be substituted!!! Think it was Burnley away but there has been a lot of football viewed over the intervening 40 years. I'm amazed Denis didn't unscrew the wankers head.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Mar 7, 2018 20:48:32 GMT
I didn’t have the pleasure of seeing the Styles show v Gillingham or Twatkinson v Newcastle. So for me it’s got to be Andy Hall’s abysmally one sided starring role in the match v Coventry when both managers appeared together at the press conference afterwards to confirm that we had indeed just seen one of the all time worst refereeing performances. For me it's both of these for different reasons. Andy Hall's performance against Coventry was just pure incompetence. He was equally as shit for both sides which is why the managers held a joint press conference to criticise him together. He was an absolute disgrace and his incompetence would have been a big story had this been a Premier League game. Rob Styles was a different type of terrible, he was corrupt. There's no doubt in my mind that he was told to stop us getting to the final to avoid the prospect of Stoke and Millwall meeting in the final. We still had a very active hooligan element at the time and if my memory served me right England were still in the running to host the 2006 World Cup at the time and the FA were very keen to show that the English hooligan problem was in the past. Tens of thousands of Stoke and Millwall fans together for a Wembley final would be guaranteed to kick off big time and the FA were desperate to avoid that embarrassment at such a sensitive time. We won the first leg and they got worried and instructed Styles to do what he did in my opinion. Neither Stoke nor Millwall reached the final that season and I don't think it was a coincidence.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Mar 7, 2018 20:53:31 GMT
Styles at Gillingham for me. There was a definite agenda that day in the second leg. The thing that transcended Styles effort that night from just fans moaning and an off night from the ref, wasn't the decisions that punished us so much but his obvious and complete lack of willingness to apply a similar view to Gillingham's conduct. There's a hell of a lot shit talked about refs and fans are the most one eyed participants in the game but there was something sinister at work that night in Kent, of that I have absolutely no doubt. As I've just posted in reply to a different post, I believe it was fixed because the FA were desperate to avoid a Stoke v Millwall final which would have been guaranteed to kick off back then and risked embarrassing our World Cup 2006 bid which was still active at the time. Both Stoke and Millwall lost their semi finals and gentle small timers Gillingham and Wigan contested the final. Hmmmm.....
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Post by Kewstokie on Mar 7, 2018 21:09:07 GMT
To add to the list of crimes wasn't Atkinson the 'referee' at Sunderland when Cattermole punched the ball over to save the ball going in the top corner and he gave a goal kick?
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