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Kitson
Mar 6, 2018 7:58:41 GMT
Post by knyperstokie on Mar 6, 2018 7:58:41 GMT
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Kitson
Mar 6, 2018 8:04:31 GMT
Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Mar 6, 2018 8:04:31 GMT
The best excuse for anything ever...
Kitson hated Stoke? I blame Kitson
Wimmer signing for Stoke? I blame Kitson
Snow from the East causing disruption? I blame Kitson
It works for everything ever!!!
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Kitson
Mar 6, 2018 8:04:41 GMT
Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 6, 2018 8:04:41 GMT
Bit of a sad story really. Not sure Spinks' snarky tone is warranted.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Mar 6, 2018 8:13:22 GMT
What a complete non-story that is, who honestly gives a fuck?
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Kitson
Mar 6, 2018 8:23:03 GMT
Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 6, 2018 8:23:03 GMT
Bit of a sad story really. Not sure Spinks' snarky tone is warranted. Why is it sad? Kitson was a grade A wanker who made absolutely zero effort to settle into life with Stoke or mix with fellow players. He's as big a tosspot as anyone we've had play for us, ever and it was evident that he felt himself "above us" in his very first appearance in a Stoke shirt in a Pre-season friendly away at Shrewsbury.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 6, 2018 8:37:24 GMT
Bit of a sad story really. Not sure Spinks' snarky tone is warranted. Why is it sad? Kitson was a grade A wanker who made absolutely zero effort to settle into life with Stoke or mix with fellow players. He's as big a tosspot as anyone we've had play for us, ever and it was evident that he felt himself "above us" in his very first appearance in a Stoke shirt in a Pre-season friendly away at Shrewsbury. I feel like it's sad because he put himself in a position where he had to take a job he didn't want and was having a tough time in his personal life. He absolutely behaved like a wanker at times but unless you're a sociopath it's not hard to empathise with a bloke who made a bad decision at a difficult time. I also think neither side came out of it brilliantly. He didn't adapt to what was expected of him, but we broke our transfer record on a player who'd thrived on wing play and then didn't play any wingers and asked him to play the Mama role. When he did finally start playing well at the start of the next season he was unceremoniously dropped for a badly out of form and increasingly uninterested James Beattie. Even when he unexpectedly came back and scored a couple of great goals later in the season he found himself quickly dropped again. Clearly he's not a bloke you'd want to go for a beer with as the beyond-smug Secret Footballer stuff shows and he only has himself to blame for the road his career ultimately went down, but I can empathise with the situation he quite candidly outlines at the start and I think Pulis didn't do him any favours either.
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Kitson
Mar 6, 2018 9:00:29 GMT
Post by thegift on Mar 6, 2018 9:00:29 GMT
Mark hughes signed kitson. Another reason to hate him.
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Kitson
Mar 6, 2018 9:06:33 GMT
Post by knyperstokie on Mar 6, 2018 9:06:33 GMT
I often wondered why Kitson failed at Stoke.
Take a reasonably good player who then moves clubs and does nothing. It happens a lot and is something that can't be factored in when buying players.
Everton have the same problem at the moment - many of their recent big money signings (£100 million +) haven't performed well.
Perhaps Stoke aren't that unusual.
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Post by chellpotter on Mar 6, 2018 9:34:10 GMT
No excuse for not performing, a lot of us hate our jobs and know if we don't put in the effort we are down the road.
Players should get in the real world, everyone has a contract of employment and it gets terminated for poor performance without compensation.
Why does this not apply to Football players!
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Post by thevoid on Mar 6, 2018 9:47:25 GMT
Being ginger, he should be grateful he found a wife.
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Post by stokemark on Mar 6, 2018 10:46:22 GMT
I love how he is deflecting what was his own stupid decision (being financially overexposed) in a manner that he somehow was the victim.
People slag off foreign players for their mercenary antics but this bloke takes the biscuit. The excuses regarding his wife are just that - excuses - Reading to Stoke is hardly the other end of the universe.
He seems to have completely missed the point of seeing what an utter privilege it is to be a well paid professional footballer which is bizarre given his background as someone who came through the hard way.
He clearly is a complicated person who struggled with the expectation that went with his talent - what a shame that he was too preoccupied to be bothered to show honest hard working Stoke fans a little bit of respect given the support we gave him.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Mar 6, 2018 11:08:03 GMT
What a complete load of bollox.....
Nobody forced him to come to Stoke!!!
If he only left Reading because of the wages, then Stoke were paying those wages, therefore he owes us something in return!!!
The real reason Dave is that you just flopped big style and was soon found out!!! Had you been a star instead, you'd have been saying "I loved every minute of it at Stoke!!!"
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Kitson
Mar 6, 2018 11:13:35 GMT
via mobile
Post by RF10 on Mar 6, 2018 11:13:35 GMT
His 'Secret Footballer' book sums him up perfect. A look at me, I'm above all of you person.
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Kitson
Mar 6, 2018 11:41:02 GMT
via mobile
Post by claytonscrubs on Mar 6, 2018 11:41:02 GMT
Mark hughes signed kitson. Another reason to hate him. Your mate Pulis signed him.......More anti-Hughes bollocks from you ! Awkward...😉
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Kitson
Mar 6, 2018 11:48:37 GMT
Post by thegift on Mar 6, 2018 11:48:37 GMT
Mark hughes signed kitson. Another reason to hate him. Your mate Pulis signed him.......More anti-Hughes bollocks from you ! Awkward...😉 And what a great signing he was.
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Kitson
Mar 6, 2018 12:04:27 GMT
via mobile
Post by claytonscrubs on Mar 6, 2018 12:04:27 GMT
Your mate Pulis signed him.......More anti-Hughes bollocks from you ! Awkward...😉 And what a great signing he was. Is that your best effort ?....^ 😂
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Kitson
Mar 6, 2018 12:10:24 GMT
Post by thegift on Mar 6, 2018 12:10:24 GMT
And what a great signing he was. Is that your best effort ?....^ 😂 Anyone Pulis signed for stoke was always going to be a fantastic addition to the team.
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Kitson
Mar 6, 2018 12:12:24 GMT
via mobile
Post by claytonscrubs on Mar 6, 2018 12:12:24 GMT
Is that your best effort ?....^ 😂 Anyone Pulis signed for stoke was always going to be a fantastic addition to the team. You’re digging yourself a deeper hole.... Keep gong ! 😀
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Kitson
Mar 6, 2018 12:15:22 GMT
Post by thegift on Mar 6, 2018 12:15:22 GMT
Anyone Pulis signed for stoke was always going to be a fantastic addition to the team. You’re digging yourself a deeper hole.... Keep gong ! 😀 it was obviously a joke about Hughes signing kitson.. did you not see the emoji at the bottom?
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Kitson
Mar 6, 2018 12:19:38 GMT
via mobile
Post by claytonscrubs on Mar 6, 2018 12:19:38 GMT
You’re digging yourself a deeper hole.... Keep gong ! 😀 it was obviously a joke about Hughes signing kitson.. did you not see the emoji at the bottom? Yeah, I believe you ..🤥 You’re officially a dick ! Job done.....
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Kitson
Mar 6, 2018 12:20:43 GMT
Post by knyperstokie on Mar 6, 2018 12:20:43 GMT
Why some players fail at some clubs is a puzzle
Mohamed Salah was considered a flop at Chelsea but is in fine form at Liverpool
Going the other way Torres scored about every other game at Liverpool but didn't do very well at Chelsea
Might be an interesting subject to research for someone
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Kitson
Mar 6, 2018 12:20:46 GMT
Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 6, 2018 12:20:46 GMT
No excuse for not performing, a lot of us hate our jobs and know if we don't put in the effort we are down the road. Players should get in the real world, everyone has a contract of employment and it gets terminated for poor performance without compensation. Why does this not apply to Football players! Probably because many of them are multi million pound "assets" to the club. You terminate a players contract and off he goes a free agent to scam the next club daft enough to give him a contract who ever it may be. Having said that though, players like Berahino and Imbula have many years left of their contracts and are worth zilch in terms of selling them on, so the club would save millions in wages if they could sack them for breach of contract. But, as you say, it’s virtually unheard of I certainly in PL football.
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Kitson
Mar 6, 2018 12:22:19 GMT
Post by thegift on Mar 6, 2018 12:22:19 GMT
No excuse for not performing, a lot of us hate our jobs and know if we don't put in the effort we are down the road. Players should get in the real world, everyone has a contract of employment and it gets terminated for poor performance without compensation. Why does this not apply to Football players! Probably because many of them are multi million pound "assets" to the club. You terminate a players contract and off he goes a free agent to scam the next club daft enough to give him a contract who ever it may be. Having said that though, players like Berahino and Imbula have many years left of their contracts and are worth zilch in terms of selling them on, so the club would save millions in wages if they could sack them for breach of contract. But, as you say, it’s virtually unheard of I certainly in PL football. Seriously though if we sacked berahino today, name me 1 club that would buy him and pay his wages. Not even a league 2 team would have him.
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Kitson
Mar 6, 2018 12:35:15 GMT
via mobile
Post by starkiller on Mar 6, 2018 12:35:15 GMT
Couldn't afford the cut in wages?
If he really wanted to stay at Reading, yes he could.
Code words for, "I'm a greedy cunt and it didn't really matter if I liked it, because if I didn't perform I knew I'd get paid anyway. Better just to get the contract then do fuck all"
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Kitson
Mar 6, 2018 12:44:21 GMT
Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Mar 6, 2018 12:44:21 GMT
Never liked him, don't know why the Sentinel are giving him the time of day - he's a wanker.
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Kitson
Mar 6, 2018 12:44:57 GMT
Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 6, 2018 12:44:57 GMT
Probably because many of them are multi million pound "assets" to the club. You terminate a players contract and off he goes a free agent to scam the next club daft enough to give him a contract who ever it may be. Having said that though, players like Berahino and Imbula have many years left of their contracts and are worth zilch in terms of selling them on, so the club would save millions in wages if they could sack them for breach of contract. But, as you say, it’s virtually unheard of I certainly in PL football. Seriously though if we sacked berahino today, name me 1 club that would buy him and pay his wages. Not even a league 2 team would have him. You’re absolutely right. The only way is to sack him for breach of contract to save the wages. It won’t happen will it? I would love to see these players contracts and how they probably favour the player and agents in disciplinary clauses. Edit: just read somewhere that there is a Standard Premier League Playing Contract but players and clubs will have add on clauses during negotiations. What is certain is that players can only be fined a maximum of 2 weeks wages for disciplinary reasons. This is stipulated by the PFA apparently.
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Kitson
Mar 6, 2018 12:45:49 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 6, 2018 12:45:49 GMT
Probably because many of them are multi million pound "assets" to the club. You terminate a players contract and off he goes a free agent to scam the next club daft enough to give him a contract who ever it may be. Having said that though, players like Berahino and Imbula have many years left of their contracts and are worth zilch in terms of selling them on, so the club would save millions in wages if they could sack them for breach of contract. But, as you say, it’s virtually unheard of I certainly in PL football. Seriously though if we sacked berahino today, name me 1 club that would buy him and pay his wages. Not even a league 2 team would have him. Anyone in the Championship would take him, still young enough, and they'll see him as a project, and probably one or two in the Prem for the same reason. Edit, if we sacked him they wouldn't need to buy him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2018 12:47:05 GMT
I can’t get my head around how Kitson had such a poor attitude. He was a late bloomer in football and had previously worked as a shelf-stacker at Sainsbury’s. You’d have thought that, with a background like that, he would’ve savoured every last second of his career regardless of less than ideal circumstances.
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Kitson
Mar 6, 2018 12:47:16 GMT
Post by thegift on Mar 6, 2018 12:47:16 GMT
Seriously though if we sacked berahino today, name me 1 club that would buy him and pay his wages. Not even a league 2 team would have him. Anyone in the Championship would take him, still young enough, and they'll see him as a project, and probably one or two in the Prem for the same reason. Edit, if we sacked him they wouldn't need to buy him. & pay his 80K a week wages? for a guy that hasn't scored in 2 years? whats the project on this then? Another career path?
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Kitson
Mar 6, 2018 12:49:14 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 6, 2018 12:49:14 GMT
Anyone in the Championship would take him, still young enough, and they'll see him as a project, and probably one or two in the Prem for the same reason. Edit, if we sacked him they wouldn't need to buy him. & pay his 80K a week wages? for a guy that hasn't scored in 2 years? whats the project on this then? Another career path? Clearly the project would be to get him back to his scoring form, he wouldn't be able to command that kind of fee if he was sacked, you see plenty of crap players still signed in the hope that they'll come good etc.
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