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Post by kjpt140v on Mar 4, 2018 15:20:48 GMT
I think we have short memories. Neither Bojan or Imbula were contributing a great deal. I love Bojan he’s a wonderful guy and when he first arrived I, like most of us, thought we had something special but it never came to fruition at least not since the Rochdale injury. Each time he was picked I had great expectation, the crowd were lifted but so many times we were disappointed. I saw Imbula at Bournemouth when he scored a fantastic goal and again I thought we had quality but, as with Bojan, we never got to witness the quality that he definitely has in the tank. The difference between the two, if we are to believe the anecdotal evidence, is that Imbula had a bad attitude. I don’t believe the season would have been any different. The one player I believe could of made a difference is Muniesa, I would like to have seen him on the left or centre of midfield. He could play a number of positions and was very skilful and he knew how to roll up his sleeves.
I could never understand why we sold a right back and not replace him and how we played wing backs and allowed Muniesa to go. Muniesa was the only player, I believe that we had on the books that resembled a wing back.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 4, 2018 15:22:57 GMT
He's been sent out on load twice and failed afternoon failing to win back his place in the side. He's not been a success has he!? I don't think he should've been kept out of the side, and I definitely don't think he should've been sent out on loan. He was an integral part of the team that was 5 points off Champions League with 7 games to go in 2016 and then he didn't start 3+ in a row again for us. Even if you say he isn't a success, he certainly hasn't failed. The false 9 bollocks was bollocks though. It was found out, that's why he was dropped.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Mar 4, 2018 15:24:13 GMT
I hugely disagree that he failed here. But ignoring that, he should still be here as an option. He's been sent out on load twice and failed afternoon failing to win back his place in the side. He's not been a success has he!? He had a slowish start followed by a blistering run of form, an unfortunate injury, a long lay off, and some decent, some average and a shite game after he came back. Then he was fucked off. He's only not been a success because he hasn't been allowed to be. At Stoke, he hasn't been given a persistent run of games to build up some confidence and form. Allen's purple patch in front of goal signed his death warrant, but naively: Allen was never going to carry on scoring and is never an attacking midfielder and was never the player we needed. Bojan was treated really unfairly and I'd have been delighted to see him back here in Jan. His bad luck comes from how good he was. By his own standards, he looks crap. Objectively, a 50% Bojan is still better than the rest of the shower of shit (apart from Shaq) attacking for us at the moment. If we'd have had Cameron and Ndiaye centre mid with Bojan in front since Jan, we'd be comfortably mid table by now.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 4, 2018 15:25:41 GMT
He's been sent out on load twice and failed afternoon failing to win back his place in the side. He's not been a success has he!? He had a slowish start followed by a blistering run of form, an unfortunate injury, a long lay off, and some decent, some average and a shite game after he came back. Then he was fucked off. He's only not been a success because he hasn't been allowed to be. At Stoke, he hasn't been given a persistent run of games to build up some confidence and form. Allen's purple patch in front of goal signed his death warrant, but naively: Allen was never going to carry on scoring and is never an attacking midfielder and was never the player we needed. Bojan was treated really unfairly and I'd have been delighted to see him back here in Jan. His bad luck comes from how good he was. By his own standards, he looks crap. Objectively, a 50% Bojan is still better than the rest of the shower of shit (apart from Shaq) attacking for us at the moment. If we'd have had Cameron and Ndiaye centre mid with Bojan in front since Jan, we'd be comfortably mid table by now. That's what happened to him at every club he's been though. He's mentally weak and goes off the rails the longer it goes on. A little bit of research before he signed showed that and it's panned out exactly like it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 15:27:51 GMT
I don't think he should've been kept out of the side, and I definitely don't think he should've been sent out on loan. He was an integral part of the team that was 5 points off Champions League with 7 games to go in 2016 and then he didn't start 3+ in a row again for us. Even if you say he isn't a success, he certainly hasn't failed. The false 9 bollocks was bollocks though. It was found out, that's why he was dropped. We dropped the false 9 in the league after WBA away in January, he wasn't dropped for more than the odd game until April.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 4, 2018 15:29:47 GMT
The false 9 bollocks was bollocks though. It was found out, that's why he was dropped. We dropped the false 9 in the league after WBA away in January, he wasn't dropped for more than the odd game until April. I don't know the timeline. I just know that he was a bit shit.
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 4, 2018 15:30:01 GMT
I always loved going there , a pub on each corner and a great chippy 👍 Hopefully not , but I honestly don't think Bojan would prevent it I think two have now shut down 😊 We obviously kept them in business 🍺
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Mar 4, 2018 15:33:35 GMT
That's what happened to him at every club he's been though. He's mentally weak and goes off the rails the longer it goes on. A little bit of research before he signed showed that and it's panned out exactly like it. But we're in a position at the moment that we haven't seen him as wank for Stoke. We've only seen him, when playing, as mint at the top end, to the acceptable side of average at the bottom end. Certainly not wank (apart from that Wolves game). So we're only accepting Hughes' judgement that he's wank. I wouldn't trust Hughes' judgement on his own fucking favourite colour. We would have absolutely nothing to lose and potentially a load to gain by having recalled him and playing him. If he's shit then it's proven and we can all put it to bed knowing we'd be getting relegated anyway. If he developed some form and started netting a few (as I suspect he would) then happy days, we stay up and we've got a good player back. It baffles me how anyone would consider it to be a better option for the club to absolutely rule him out completely, rather than at least have him there as an option.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 4, 2018 15:37:03 GMT
That's what happened to him at every club he's been though. He's mentally weak and goes off the rails the longer it goes on. A little bit of research before he signed showed that and it's panned out exactly like it. But we're in a position at the moment that we haven't seen him as wank for Stoke. We've only seen him, when playing, as mint at the top end, to the acceptable side of average at the bottom end. Certainly not wank (apart from that Wolves game). So we're only accepting Hughes' judgement that he's wank. I wouldn't trust Hughes' judgement on his own fucking favourite colour. We would have absolutely nothing to lose and potentially a load to gain by having recalled him and playing him. If he's shit then it's proven and we can all put it to bed knowing we'd be getting relegated anyway. If he developed some form and started netting a few (as I suspect he would) then happy days, we stay up and we've got a good player back. It baffles me how anyone would consider it to be a better option for the club to absolutely rule him out completely, rather than at least have him there as an option. I've said I would have probably got him back. But I think he's mentally shot and already past it tbh. I don't buy that he wasn't trying, that's just bollovks. But that's wat worries me. He was trying and he simply wasn't good enough. What made him so good was he would buzz around their DM and hassle them. After his injury he lost that, he was scared to put his foot in as he was doing before. And he wasn't as zippy around the pitch. Again to be expected but it took away the best part of his game.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 15:37:03 GMT
We dropped the false 9 in the league after WBA away in January, he wasn't dropped for more than the odd game until April. I don't know the timeline. I just know that he was a bit shit. I'd disagree, i think he had a very decent season. But as I say, whatever you think of him, he has to be better attacking wise than what we have. Or at the very least bench-worthy.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 4, 2018 15:37:36 GMT
I don't know the timeline. I just know that he was a bit shit. I'd disagree, i think he had a very decent season. But as I say, whatever you think of him, he has to be better attacking wise than what we have. Or at the very least bench-worthy. I haven't said anything different!
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Post by loosestools on Mar 4, 2018 16:12:54 GMT
Bring him back at some point, if we can, he cannot be worse than what we have now, the odd devastating pass the odd brilliant flick, the clever goals, what have we got to lose?
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Post by dastokie on Mar 4, 2018 16:17:17 GMT
How could Bojan play in the team now with mighty Joe Allen showing how to play real football. Run ,run,run, lose the ball tackle lose the ball run run run lose the ball tackle. Ball in the last third will he shoot will he f@ k.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 4, 2018 22:49:33 GMT
Imbula unused sub this weekend for Toulouse. Disappointing, you wonder where he's going to be next season.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 4, 2018 23:09:49 GMT
We've got 2. Lambert plays neither there. Forgot about Ireland, but i'd still class Shaq as a winger. A 4231 with Shaqiri Bojan Jese behind a striker (any of them) would surely help us with keeping the ball and creating. As is i'd probably put Ireland there or have a fluid 3 with Ramadan added. And zero cover for anyone behind them, it would be so easy to just put it wide and get a cross in, it would be carnage
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Post by kustokie on Mar 4, 2018 23:30:57 GMT
Forgot about Ireland, but i'd still class Shaq as a winger. A 4231 with Shaqiri Bojan Jese behind a striker (any of them) would surely help us with keeping the ball and creating. As is i'd probably put Ireland there or have a fluid 3 with Ramadan added. And zero cover for anyone behind them, it would be so easy to just put it wide and get a cross in, it would be carnage This really is a mess. Whatever line up PL comes up, there’s always at least one weakness. I am afraid he’s just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. How did this happen?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 4, 2018 23:46:57 GMT
And zero cover for anyone behind them, it would be so easy to just put it wide and get a cross in, it would be carnage This really is a mess. Whatever line up PL comes up, there’s always at least one weakness. I am afraid he’s just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. How did this happen? Hughes completely fucked it.
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Post by hanibal7 on Mar 5, 2018 1:03:35 GMT
don't be a silly boy, he can't leave until the end of season.I would guess you haven't seen him play he has been awful. Well that's what they said in January. I saw him a couple of times and the game passed him by because they were hoofing it. Whatever your thoughts on him, and I certainly don't think he's perfect, he would at the very least add to our horrific attacking options. I am a realist and he is nowhere near good enough for a scrap mate.He wanted to go but didn't contribute anything and got dropped.
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Post by mattythestokie on Mar 5, 2018 1:42:55 GMT
People just love to forget how bad Imbula was.
The mans a disgrace.
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 5, 2018 2:04:07 GMT
Amongst other things, the return of Boj would have given us all a much needed lift. There must be reasons he is cast aside and at some stage I look forward to hearing them.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 5, 2018 2:10:35 GMT
Zzzzz
Do we really need another thread about this, it's been done to death and it was boring the last time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2018 12:46:21 GMT
Well that's what they said in January. I saw him a couple of times and the game passed him by because they were hoofing it. Whatever your thoughts on him, and I certainly don't think he's perfect, he would at the very least add to our horrific attacking options. I am a realist and he is nowhere near good enough for a scrap mate.He wanted to go but didn't contribute anything and got dropped. I massively disagree with him not contributing anything, in the few games he played in 2016/17 I thought he did fairly well. But even ignoring that, tell me one attacking player we have, besides Shaq, who is good enough for the scrap? And why it wouldn't be good just to have got Bojan back as an option?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2018 19:14:06 GMT
They're lumbered with him until the summer though. And they're committed to paying his wages until then. But they still aren't even putting him on the bench. It's a hell of a shame, but he's done nothing at all at Mainz or Alaves, has he? I don’t care if he’s done fuck all for those two mate He’s better than what we are currently plodding along with Bang on we are a limp dick up front.
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Post by werrington on Mar 5, 2018 19:15:36 GMT
I don’t care if he’s done fuck all for those two mate He’s better than what we are currently plodding along with Bang on we are a limp dick up front. With the potential news on Diouf this rams home the madness of this decision
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2018 19:16:24 GMT
Bang on we are a limp dick up front. With the potential news on Diouf this rams home the madness of this decision If only we had Danny Ings 😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Post by pottersrule on Mar 5, 2018 19:20:22 GMT
Imbula unused sub this weekend for Toulouse. Disappointing, you wonder where he's going to be next season. With us?
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Post by lordb on Mar 15, 2018 7:14:29 GMT
Imbula has been called up by DR Congo.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 15, 2018 7:25:26 GMT
Imbula has been called up by DR Congo. Maybe the DR will be able to find some work in him.
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Post by nott1 on Mar 15, 2018 12:37:45 GMT
For DR Congo after impressing recently (star performance versus Marseille).
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Mar 15, 2018 13:08:20 GMT
Imbula has been called up by DR Congo. DR Congo you say, Better let 007 know a.s.a.p.
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