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Post by knyperstokie on Feb 17, 2018 17:00:36 GMT
Just been talking to a friend who supports Blackburn. He made an interesting point about clubs that go down from The Premiership, and its got me a bit worried.
The tree/four decent players that we have will probably move leaving a squad that would find life in The Championship rather dificult. I can now see Stoke in Division 1 in a couple of years, and possibly Division 2 - look at Blackburn Rovers, Coventry, Portsmouth, etc. Don't want it to happen but if it does we are not going to bounce back.
Can anyone see a plan B if Stoke go down? Would anyone at the club be working on a strategy now? I've been in busines for a long time and there is always someone working in the background on 'what if' scenarios. Just wondered if a football club (basically a business) would be doing this.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 17, 2018 17:04:49 GMT
Peter can't see the fuss.
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Post by chayzenbacon on Feb 17, 2018 17:05:38 GMT
Just been talking to a friend who supports Blackburn. He made an interesting point about clubs that go down from The Premiership, and its got me a bit worried. The tree/four decent players that we have will probably move leaving a squad that would find life in The Championship rather dificult. I can now see Stoke in Division 1 in a couple of years, and possibly Division 2 - look at Blackburn Rovers, Coventry, Portsmouth, etc. Don't want it to happen but if it does we are not going to bounce back. Can anyone see a plan B if Stoke go down? Would anyone at the club be working on a strategy now? I've been in busines for a long time and there is always someone working in the background on 'what if' scenarios. Just wondered if a football club (basically a business) would be doing this. Look on the bright side mate, you'll be making everyone suicidal! (Just don't look where Sunderland are right now.) |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2018 17:05:54 GMT
Your friend forgot to mention Burnley and Newcastle who both went down recently but came back up?
As for contingency plans, of course there will be one, it would just be foolhardy now to you overtly say we are planning just in case.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Feb 17, 2018 17:14:06 GMT
Depends on how results go!
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Post by Davef on Feb 17, 2018 17:16:39 GMT
Just been talking to a friend who supports Blackburn. He made an interesting point about clubs that go down from The Premiership, and its got me a bit worried. The tree/four decent players that we have will probably move leaving a squad that would find life in The Championship rather dificult. I can now see Stoke in Division 1 in a couple of years, and possibly Division 2 - look at Blackburn Rovers, Coventry, Portsmouth, etc. Don't want it to happen but if it does we are not going to bounce back. Can anyone see a plan B if Stoke go down? Would anyone at the club be working on a strategy now? I've been in busines for a long time and there is always someone working in the background on 'what if' scenarios. Just wondered if a football club (basically a business) would be doing this. Things aren't great right now, but are you seriously suggesting we're on a par with basket case clubs like Blackburn, Coventry and Portsmouth? Come on. |
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Post by sutekh on Feb 17, 2018 17:19:37 GMT
We are run like a national league side and that is were I fear we will eventually end up.
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Post by Davef on Feb 17, 2018 17:20:46 GMT
We are run like a national league side and that is were I fear we will eventually end up. lol |
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Post by riproaring on Feb 17, 2018 17:23:09 GMT
15th
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Post by eatonpotter on Feb 17, 2018 17:24:17 GMT
Plan B, would not mind if No Fuss Coates and Co had a fucking Plan A
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Post by professorplump on Feb 17, 2018 17:32:51 GMT
Coventry and Portsmouth dropped so far due to severe financial problems. Whatever people think of the Coates family, from a financial point of view they have looked after us and therefore I don't see us dropping any lower than the Championship.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 17, 2018 17:36:55 GMT
Coventry and Portsmouth dropped so far due to severe financial problems. Whatever people think of the Coates family, from a financial point of view they have looked after us and therefore I don't see us dropping any lower than the Championship. They could easily pull the plug and demand the money we owe to them. The club don't own the ground too. In the sense that it's two companies and the two aren't linked at that level but a higher bet365 level. Now I too agree that it's highly unlikely to happen but my second sentence genuinely worries me. |
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2018 17:59:04 GMT
Just been talking to a friend who supports Blackburn. He made an interesting point about clubs that go down from The Premiership, and its got me a bit worried. The tree/four decent players that we have will probably move leaving a squad that would find life in The Championship rather dificult. I can now see Stoke in Division 1 in a couple of years, and possibly Division 2 - look at Blackburn Rovers, Coventry, Portsmouth, etc. Don't want it to happen but if it does we are not going to bounce back. Can anyone see a plan B if Stoke go down? Would anyone at the club be working on a strategy now? I've been in busines for a long time and there is always someone working in the background on 'what if' scenarios. Just wondered if a football club (basically a business) would be doing this. We didn't have a plan B to stay in the PL, so probably not. |
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Feb 17, 2018 18:02:55 GMT
We are run like a national league side and that is were I fear we will eventually end up. Ive just laughed so hard a little bit of wee came out. |
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Post by ryd1967 on Feb 17, 2018 18:05:23 GMT
Not far. I have faith in Lambert.
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Post by Royal Donut on Feb 17, 2018 18:25:54 GMT
Coventry and Portsmouth dropped so far due to severe financial problems. Whatever people think of the Coates family, from a financial point of view they have looked after us and therefore I don't see us dropping any lower than the Championship. They could easily pull the plug and demand the money we owe to them. The club don't own the ground too. In the sense that it's two companies and the two aren't linked at that level but a higher bet365 level. Now I too agree that it's highly unlikely to happen but my second sentence genuinely worries me. I thought the club owed the stadium for around about 10 years now. |
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Post by blackpoolred on Feb 17, 2018 18:26:38 GMT
Your friend forgot to mention Burnley and Newcastle who both went down recently but came back up? As for contingency plans, of course there will be one, it would just be foolhardy now to you overtly say we are planning just in case. Wish I had your faith - I don't think we have people in charge who have got a feckin clue: this is a board that sacked their manager in the middle of a transfer window(giving the new man absolutely no time at all to change anything or take a proper look at his team) and then employed the most mediocre of all managers possible because they liked what he had to say at the interview - we are not interviewing for a job in sales or IT, we have to be aiming higher than employing somebody because they came accross as personable - this is the problem when you have business men making decisions, the FA have the same issues We have backroom staff that are incompetent at every level and poor manager who has inherited a soulless, characterless QPR 2 - in short, a club that is rotten to the core - not sure how on earth we can be compared to Burnley, maybe Newcastle, but they have a class manager |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 17, 2018 18:26:41 GMT
They could easily pull the plug and demand the money we owe to them. The club don't own the ground too. In the sense that it's two companies and the two aren't linked at that level but a higher bet365 level. Now I too agree that it's highly unlikely to happen but my second sentence genuinely worries me. I thought the club owed the stadium for around about 10 years now. 2 separate companies. Both under the umbrella of bet365. |
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Post by Royal Donut on Feb 17, 2018 18:28:58 GMT
I thought the club owed the stadium for around about 10 years now. 2 separate companies. Both under the umbrella of bet365. I stand corrected, thanks. |
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Post by andystokey on Feb 17, 2018 18:32:12 GMT
I think Norwich mid table mediocrity after flirting with the play offs.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 17, 2018 18:32:33 GMT
We are run like a national league side and that is were I fear we will eventually end up. Ive just laughed so hard a little bit of wee came out. I bet you a Tena he's right, though. |
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Post by alster on Feb 17, 2018 18:38:04 GMT
I thought the club owed the stadium for around about 10 years now. 2 separate companies. Both under the umbrella of bet365. Football stadium for sale in a position of poor access on cheap as chips land on a trading estate in Stoke-on-Trent. Somehow I don't see it as a problem. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 17, 2018 18:48:18 GMT
Can't see us falling any further in the next few years.
The Butland/Allen/Shaq money and parachute cash should see us to respectability, regardless of the extent Bet 365 choose to go through the motions.
But, realistically, can we see a Paul Lambert-led team of Pizza Boys' purchases troubling the promotion places?
Sadly, no. Not really.
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Post by marylandstoke on Feb 17, 2018 18:50:36 GMT
Watching Hull play Chelsea yesterday looked awfully familiar.
I am doing my level best, I really am.Not only is my glass usually half full, But I’m glad we’re not drinking out of plastic.
That being said my biggest difficulty is I see no effing difference whatsoever. Same sh*t, different day. I think at this point I’d rather see him play the U23s and lose than the same, sorry faces drifting around looking confused and lonely.
I refuse to name names but I really believe in one recent game Liam Miller would have done more work in our midfield (rest in piece)
The three best touches in the second half were Lambert flicking it into Shaqs chest for him to take a thrown and the drilled pass when he ran out of his technical area when we won a free kick.
Sorry
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Post by Trouserdog on Feb 17, 2018 18:54:19 GMT
Our natural place in the pecking order is probably top-half/mid-table Championship and that's where we'll probably end up for a while when we go down.
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Post by marylandstoke on Feb 17, 2018 18:55:11 GMT
Oh, and one small consolation/word to the wise.
If you download ESPN 3 (its free) most of the Championship games are shown in full
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Post by Davef on Feb 17, 2018 18:55:26 GMT
Watching Hull play Chelsea yesterday looked awfully familiar. I am doing my level best, I really am.Not only is my glass usually half full, But I’m glad we’re not drinking out of plastic. That being said my biggest difficulty is I see no effing difference whatsoever. Same sh*t, different day. I think at this point I’d rather see him play the U23s and lose than the same, sorry faces drifting around looking confused and lonely. I refuse to name names but I really believe in one recent game Liam Miller would have done more work in our midfield (rest in piece)The three best touches in the second half were Lambert flicking it into Shaqs chest for him to take a thrown and the drilled pass when he ran out of his technical area when we won a free kick. Sorry Stupid comment. |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Feb 17, 2018 19:04:40 GMT
Your friend forgot to mention Burnley and Newcastle who both went down recently but came back up? As for contingency plans, of course there will be one, it would just be foolhardy now to you overtly say we are planning just in case. Wish I had your faith - I don't think we have people in charge who have got a feckin clue: this is a board that sacked their manager in the middle of a transfer window(giving the new man absolutely no time at all to change anything or take a proper look at his team) and then employed the most mediocre of all managers possible because they liked what he had to say at the interview - we are not interviewing for a job in sales or IT, we have to be aiming higher than employing somebody because they came accross as personable - this is the problem when you have business men making decisions, the FA have the same issues We have backroom staff that are incompetent at every level and poor manager who has inherited a soulless, characterless QPR 2 - in short, a club that is rotten to the core - not sure how on earth we can be compared to Burnley, maybe Newcastle, but they have a class manager They were impressed by his knowledge of our squad! Stop being so negative!  . And if we go down, Cartwright will be able to build a squad for that level, he spent all his career down there!  |
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Post by geoff321 on Feb 17, 2018 19:17:14 GMT
Lambert has shown he can keep sides in the PL and has a promotion with Norwich from the Championship, I think he could do well.
If he was to take us down though I think the abuse he would face from some fans might make it difficult for the Board to keep him, despite his contract.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Feb 17, 2018 19:35:32 GMT
Mid Cheshire league - first game v Lynotype
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