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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 11, 2018 13:45:35 GMT
What is it about our players. When you look at Huddersfield today they've played with intensity and actually look like they're playing for the shirt. This season we just haven't looked at the races. when I looked at all our players at the end of the game yesterday I thought your looking like you've got nothing left to give, yet their performance was so lacklustre. Lots of sideways and backwards passing and lack of commitment. No real chasing and running your hearts out. There were a couple of incidents where players didn't even jump or put in a challenge. We are in the biggest fight of our lives yet we play like we don't care in comparison to some of the clubs down there. With the exception of Bauer, Badou and Joe(who didn't have one of his better games yesterday). There's a distinct lack of effort. I appreciate he's a spent force but the number of times Fletcher jogged back when we were under attack was incredible.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 11, 2018 13:49:52 GMT
The number of times we got a throw yesterday and Stoke players were actively hiding and choosing not to make themselves available was depressing. There was a distinct lack of bravery in our first half performance.
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Post by Theninjabadger on Feb 11, 2018 13:55:00 GMT
Their players actually give a fuck whilst 75% of our don’t. They know to be playing in the premier league next year they need Huddersfield to stay up, ours know they’ll get another move cause they’re “big names”
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Feb 11, 2018 13:57:15 GMT
There are a lot of comments about the board and Scholes and Carto being to blame for our relegation, well the players need to take a long hard look in the mirror. This squad is more than capable of challenging for top 10. They have not shown anything like the commitment or quality that they posses.
They players are as culpable as Hughes, Coates, Scholes and Cartwright.
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Feb 11, 2018 14:00:07 GMT
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Post by mrred on Feb 11, 2018 14:00:07 GMT
Lambert wants us to play a pressing game. These useless cunts posing as professional athletes have let their standards drop because for the last 3 years the previous manager let them get away with murder, or more to the fact he simply wasn't arsed.
They aren't fit enough. They visibly faded after going on for 60 minutes. It was as clear as day.
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Feb 11, 2018 14:06:53 GMT
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Post by thehoof on Feb 11, 2018 14:06:53 GMT
To play with intensity you need pace and fitness- both of which are totally missing from this team- in much the same way as intelligence and ambition have been missing in the way the board has allowed this situation to develop over the past 24 months.
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Feb 11, 2018 14:10:50 GMT
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Post by onionman on Feb 11, 2018 14:10:50 GMT
The number of times we got a throw yesterday and Stoke players were actively hiding and choosing not to make themselves available was depressing. There was a distinct lack of bravery in our first half performance. I had the good fortune of missing the game yesterday - who were the worst offenders because that is the most infuriating trait of any footballer.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 11, 2018 14:17:02 GMT
The number of times we got a throw yesterday and Stoke players were actively hiding and choosing not to make themselves available was depressing. There was a distinct lack of bravery in our first half performance. I had the good fortune of missing the game yesterday - who were the worst offenders because that is the most infuriating trait of any footballer. Choupo was a particularly egregious offender. Diouf too at times, disappointingly. Allen was one of the few who’d reliably charge around to make himself available, though I wondered if Badou’s only forward instincts neutered him a bit overall.
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Post by mrred on Feb 11, 2018 14:21:12 GMT
I had the good fortune of missing the game yesterday - who were the worst offenders because that is the most infuriating trait of any footballer. Choupo was a particularly egregious offender. Diouf too at times, disappointingly. Allen was one of the few who’d reliably charge around to make himself available, though I wondered if Badou’s only forward instincts neutered him a bit overall. Diouf was fucking abysmal, though it wasn't through lack of effort. Couldn't pass to a team mate if a gun was to his head and tried to run though opposition players. Every. Fucking. Time.
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Post by onionman on Feb 11, 2018 14:26:15 GMT
I had the good fortune of missing the game yesterday - who were the worst offenders because that is the most infuriating trait of any footballer. Choupo was a particularly egregious offender. Diouf too at times, disappointingly. Allen was one of the few who’d reliably charge around to make himself available, though I wondered if Badou’s only forward instincts neutered him a bit overall. We're in a hopeless position with that pair. Expect them to fail at Championship level too because whether it's down to lack of courage, lack of confidence or pure laziness, stopping the downhill momentum requires something they clearly don't have.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 14:36:28 GMT
Choupo was a particularly egregious offender. Diouf too at times, disappointingly. Allen was one of the few who’d reliably charge around to make himself available, though I wondered if Badou’s only forward instincts neutered him a bit overall. Diouf was fucking abysmal, though it wasn't through lack of effort. Couldn't pass to a team mate if a gun was to his head and tried to run though opposition players. Every. Fucking. Time. That's what he does though. And people fucking rave about him.
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Post by mrred on Feb 11, 2018 14:39:52 GMT
Diouf was fucking abysmal, though it wasn't through lack of effort. Couldn't pass to a team mate if a gun was to his head and tried to run though opposition players. Every. Fucking. Time. That's what he does though. And people fucking rave about him. Something, something passion I guess. Same as Walters. But he runs a lot! Diouf was infuriating yesterday. Would have taken him and Choupo off at half time personally. One was wank, the other couldn't be arsed.
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Post by forwhatitsworth on Feb 11, 2018 15:05:12 GMT
The annoying thing is that this is what Lambert promised us in his first press conference. He promised a high press, not giving opponents time on the ball, togetherness and passion. Not seen any of this maybe bar against Huddersfield. Lamberts intentions are good but for the lack of desire from some of the players to implement.
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Feb 11, 2018 15:08:18 GMT
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Post by jarhead on Feb 11, 2018 15:08:18 GMT
Not really Lambert’s fault. He wants high pressing and intensity BUT the spineless cunts wearing the shirt can’t be arsed. It’s disgudting to watch as we would run through a burning tunnel to get on the end of a cross to score!!!
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Feb 11, 2018 15:10:24 GMT
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Post by hanibal7 on Feb 11, 2018 15:10:24 GMT
Lambert wants us to play a pressing game. These useless cunts posing as professional athletes have let their standards drop because for the last 3 years the previous manager let them get away with murder, or more to the fact he simply wasn't arsed. They aren't fit enough. They visibly faded after going on for 60 minutes. It was as clear as day. So why were we much better second half yesterday.Its a myth we are not fit, we are lazy more like it.
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Post by hanibal7 on Feb 11, 2018 15:12:32 GMT
Not really Lambert’s fault. He wants high pressing and intensity BUT the spineless cunts wearing the shirt can’t be arsed. It’s disgudting to watch as we would run through a burning tunnel to get on the end of a cross to score!!! So it is PL fault then, playing a system the players cannot do.Hughes was critisised for playing a back 3 with no wing backs.
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 11, 2018 15:12:41 GMT
Very hard for Badou and Allen to be everywhere as we all know they have to compensate for Fletcher who is nowhere near where he should be at times! My God I really hope I never have to witness Fletcher nor Wimmer in a Stoke shirt again!
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Post by hanibal7 on Feb 11, 2018 15:13:48 GMT
The annoying thing is that this is what Lambert promised us in his first press conference. He promised a high press, not giving opponents time on the ball, togetherness and passion. Not seen any of this maybe bar against Huddersfield. Lamberts intentions are good but for the lack of desire from some of the players to implement. A bit like Hughes then
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Post by forwhatitsworth on Feb 11, 2018 15:18:57 GMT
The annoying thing is that this is what Lambert promised us in his first press conference. He promised a high press, not giving opponents time on the ball, togetherness and passion. Not seen any of this maybe bar against Huddersfield. Lamberts intentions are good but for the lack of desire from some of the players to implement. A bit like Hughes then Maybe as the group of players hasn't changed a great deal. But at least with Lambert we are organised at the back and not leaking goals for fun. Our goal difference due to Hughes maybe what sends us down. I believe points wise its going to be very tight.
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Post by jarhead on Feb 11, 2018 15:35:02 GMT
Not really Lambert’s fault. He wants high pressing and intensity BUT the spineless cunts wearing the shirt can’t be arsed. It’s disgudting to watch as we would run through a burning tunnel to get on the end of a cross to score!!! So it is PL fault then, playing a system the players cannot do.Hughes was critisised for playing a back 3 with no wing backs. Not really he wants this from the players BUT they can’t be arsed unless he plays the kids who will give blood for the cause. It’s not about a system either it’s about passion in hunting the ball putting pressure on the opposition but they are going through the motions, it’s sickening to watch.
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Post by mrred on Feb 11, 2018 16:04:34 GMT
Lambert wants us to play a pressing game. These useless cunts posing as professional athletes have let their standards drop because for the last 3 years the previous manager let them get away with murder, or more to the fact he simply wasn't arsed. They aren't fit enough. They visibly faded after going on for 60 minutes. It was as clear as day. So why were we much better second half yesterday.Its a myth we are not fit, we are lazy more like it. Our game was more concentrated but we were much slower. Completely laboured. They might not be unfit, unless your names Charlie Adam, but they're unable to keep that work rate. O was watching intently with this in mind yesterday and they started dropping around 60 minutes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 16:19:11 GMT
I've been saying for quite some time, that the squad is shite. Perhaps people will believe me now! As I said yesterday, the penalty miss, sums us up. We are, without a doubt one of, if not the worst teams in this league. I am in no doubt we are going down with a complete shambles of a team. I just feel sorry for the new lads, walking into this!
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Feb 11, 2018 16:24:10 GMT
same with Newcastle , we used to have players with fight but Hughes and the transfer team have replaced characters with players who don't seem to have any .
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Post by thegift on Feb 11, 2018 16:33:59 GMT
What is it about our players. When you look at Huddersfield today they've played with intensity and actually look like they're playing for the shirt. This season we just haven't looked at the races. when I looked at all our players at the end of the game yesterday I thought your looking like you've got nothing left to give, yet their performance was so lacklustre. Lots of sideways and backwards passing and lack of commitment. No real chasing and running your hearts out. There were a couple of incidents where players didn't even jump or put in a challenge. We are in the biggest fight of our lives yet we play like we don't care in comparison to some of the clubs down there. With the exception of Bauer, Badou and Joe(who didn't have one of his better games yesterday). There's a distinct lack of effort. I appreciate he's a spent force but the number of times Fletcher jogged back when we were under attack was incredible. Fitness. Lambert wants to play the pressing style but he's lumbered with a bunch of clowns
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 11, 2018 16:46:01 GMT
The number of times we got a throw yesterday and Stoke players were actively hiding and choosing not to make themselves available was depressing. There was a distinct lack of bravery in our first half performance. I was in the 1863 yesterday where George Berry was the guest speaker. He nailed it when he talked about the Huddy second coming and how he completely changed the team by making them want the ball again. Prior to his arrival he said players were hiding and Huddy changed everything. Sadly we have no one like Huddy to pull us out of this mess.
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Post by kev1060 on Feb 11, 2018 16:55:55 GMT
What I'd give for a Glen Murray in our team. Bullied Ryan from start to finish yesterday showing what intensity is all about.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 11, 2018 16:57:36 GMT
same with Newcastle , we used to have players with fight but Hughes and the transfer team have replaced characters with players who don't seem to have any . And their "talent" isn't enough to overcome this.
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Post by clivey05 on Feb 11, 2018 17:32:59 GMT
Apart from Allen and Bauer, we have a mix of lazy and unfit players, couldn’t believe how knackered so many of them looked yesterday.
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Post by westgatelakes on Feb 11, 2018 19:58:26 GMT
The most worrying thing about going down is that we end up stuck with players that need to go and lose those that we need to stay and build a new team around - that is the reality folks. If you want proof look at Sunderland (Jack Rodwell)
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Post by salopian on Feb 11, 2018 20:10:23 GMT
There are a lot of comments about the board and Scholes and Carto being to blame for our relegation, well the players need to take a long hard look in the mirror. This squad is more than capable of challenging for top 10. They have not shown anything like the commitment or quality that they posses. They players are as culpable as Hughes, Coates, Scholes and Cartwright. Other then the fans it's all been to cosy and " what's the fuss" attitude and it's run down form the top to the players... Can't be arsed attitude and it stinks!! Most of these players know they will move on and leave us in the s%%t and yet get another signing on fee... so when walking off the pitch are more busy waving to the Mrs then looking pissed off we lost or only drew etc.
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