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Post by PotterLog on Feb 6, 2018 3:55:27 GMT
Being considered by the Prem according to this (fairly flimsy) article... www.bbc.com/sport/football/42954835I used to hate the idea but I think I could probably get on board with a January break that doesn't affect the xmas/NY schedule, especially if it meant more midweek games during the season.
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Feb 6, 2018 5:06:28 GMT
Being considered by the Prem according to this (fairly flimsy) article... www.bbc.com/sport/football/42954835I used to hate the idea but I think I could probably get on board with a January break that doesn't affect the xmas/NY schedule, especially if it meant more midweek games during the season. Couple of weeks in January be fine in my book.....
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Post by Cast no shadow on Feb 6, 2018 6:32:43 GMT
Was inevitable with all these foreign managers banging on about it, fucking farce. Break my arse.
Its all fine when they’re pissing off to usa, far east and australia on pre/post season tours! Piss off, games gone, modern football is shite.
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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 6, 2018 7:11:28 GMT
Please, no.
If any managers don't like it, They can go manage somewhere else.
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 6, 2018 7:25:37 GMT
It's all right as long as players are resting by a pool in Spain or something. Certain clubs will whisk them across the world for million dollar appearance showpiece bullshit games.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 8:19:08 GMT
How about deducting one point per timezone they cross for exhibition matches during the break.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Feb 6, 2018 8:35:43 GMT
I was going to say it'd be nice not freezing my balls off in January at the Brit, but it's cold all year round so it doesn't make much difference. Fuck em, make em play.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 6, 2018 8:37:29 GMT
If they were doing 4 12 hour hour shifts fair enough,but they aint.
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 6, 2018 9:03:27 GMT
Being considered by the Prem according to this (fairly flimsy) article... www.bbc.com/sport/football/42954835I used to hate the idea but I think I could probably get on board with a January break that doesn't affect the xmas/NY schedule, especially if it meant more midweek games during the season. Couple of weeks in January be fine in my book..... Don’t we normally get a couple of weeks of in jan anyway
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Feb 6, 2018 18:49:50 GMT
Couple of weeks in January be fine in my book..... Don’t we normally get a couple of weeks of in jan anyway I have no idea!
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Post by Gods on Feb 6, 2018 19:01:52 GMT
You just know it will be unseasonably warm when the winter break comes and arctic conditions before and after!
Honestly I wouldn't bother, I mean what's it really for?
We have a 2 week break when we exit the FA Cup in round 3 anyway.
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Post by harrysburrow on Feb 6, 2018 19:05:41 GMT
They have a 2 week break everytime England play and 3 months off in the summer FFS. Also, we get knocked out of both cups in round 3 anyway. Add to that the fact that they would then be banging on about not being match fit and they can shove their winter break up their fucking arse.
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Post by professorplump on Feb 6, 2018 22:09:02 GMT
All I would do is remove one of the matches from the Christmas / New Year schedule and so play 3 games instead of 4. If we have a winter break, clubs will just disappear off to the other side of the world to play lucrative friendlies.
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Post by luke2u on Feb 6, 2018 22:11:16 GMT
I can't stand the international breaks, so, no thanks.
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 6, 2018 22:19:13 GMT
It's all right as long as players are resting by a pool in Spain or something. Certain clubs will whisk them across the world for million dollar appearance showpiece bullshit games. Which is exactly what will happen, making the whole thing a farce.
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 6, 2018 22:21:04 GMT
Can any physiological experts explain to me how it makes any difference when the fixtures over the course of a nine month season will still be the same regardless?
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Feb 6, 2018 22:42:14 GMT
We get a winter break every season, it's called FA Cup forth round.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 23:06:25 GMT
Just no point to it at all.
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 7, 2018 1:01:05 GMT
It's all right as long as players are resting by a pool in Spain or something. Certain clubs will whisk them across the world for million dollar appearance showpiece bullshit games. Which is exactly what will happen, making the whole thing a farce. Yep
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 5:47:00 GMT
Not easy to do but the managers should play some fringe players or the ones on the bench, gives the usual starting 11 a rest and gives the lads coming in a opportunity to impress.
Christmas and New Year games is where you would do this in my opinion.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Feb 7, 2018 6:52:43 GMT
Pre Premier League (is the invention if football) top flight had 42 matches with matchday squads of 12 maximum of 1 substitution. Now they play 4 less games with squads of 18 and 3 subs. Unless you're in Europe you are already playing less game time than in most of the latter part of the 20th century. So tiredness and need for a break is bollocks. The issue is for 'top' teams in Europe - who play too many utterly pointless group games since it ceased to be s knockout competition before Christmas. And the reason for that - like most things in sport is money.
So we will be expected to forego our entertainment in January to in order to fill the coffers of the Big Six in October and November.
But ain't that always the way??
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 7, 2018 7:44:50 GMT
I think the lack of a break probably is a factor in why we're so toss in international tournaments.
Personally, it wouldn't affect my life or my enjoyment of football if there was a couple of weeks' break in early January. If anything I'd look forward to it all resuming again all the more, whereas the saturation coverage we have these days can all feel a bit wearying and bilious at times. As long as it didn't interfere with the Christmas schedule and Boxing Day and New Year football I think I'd be ok with it.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 7, 2018 8:13:21 GMT
I think the lack of a break probably is a factor in why we're so toss in international tournaments. Personally, it wouldn't affect my life or my enjoyment of football if there was a couple of weeks' break in early January. If anything I'd look forward to it all resuming again all the more, whereas the saturation coverage we have these days can all feel a bit wearying and bilious at times. As long as it didn't interfere with the Christmas schedule and Boxing Day and New Year football I think I'd be ok with it. There's generally a fair smattering of Premier League based players in teams in the latter stages of every World Cup so I think that's a bit of a red herring, Rob. I think England's final tournament woes run a bit deeper than Dele Ali being given a fortnight off to go and dive in a couple of million dollar friendlies in Dubai!
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Post by nott1 on Feb 7, 2018 8:16:30 GMT
If this happens then ban the wearing of gloves for the rest of the season!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 7, 2018 8:30:03 GMT
I think the lack of a break probably is a factor in why we're so toss in international tournaments. Personally, it wouldn't affect my life or my enjoyment of football if there was a couple of weeks' break in early January. If anything I'd look forward to it all resuming again all the more, whereas the saturation coverage we have these days can all feel a bit wearying and bilious at times. As long as it didn't interfere with the Christmas schedule and Boxing Day and New Year football I think I'd be ok with it. There's generally a fair smattering of Premier League based players in teams in the latter stages of every World Cup so I think that a bit of a red herring, Rob. I think England's final tournament woes run A bit deeper than Dele Ali being given a fortnight off to go and dive in a couple of million dollar friendlies in Dubai! They absolutely do run a lot deeper than that but I think it's undeniably a factor mate. Premier League players might have been involved in the later stages of tournaments but I can't think of too many who've played a full season plus European games and dazzled in them. I thought the Liverpool and Tottenham cores that made up our last two dismal tournaments were absolutely shagged by the summer and fatigue has marred a lot of world cups (not just England but a few European sides) since about 2002. I think the friendlies thing is a red herring as well to be honest. It's grubby and unedifying but physically it's not comparable to the physical and mental intensity of a Premier League game. It's a half-speed kickabout.
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Post by cousindupree on Feb 7, 2018 8:52:03 GMT
Another change to the English game driven by the top 6 who are desperate to play less domestic game and that's what will happen. You can't have a winter break without playing less games. So the authorities will tinker with the cup games and probably end replays and the two legged league cup semifinals. All this of course will benefit the top teams and reduce opportunities for smaller clubs. There is already enough breaks in the calendar with International games and non participation in later cup rounds. As others have said we all know what the top teams will do, expect a money raising tournament in feckin Dubai.
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Post by stokienorthants on Feb 7, 2018 9:19:19 GMT
I thought our players were already on one.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 7, 2018 9:23:22 GMT
Another change to the English game driven by the top 6 who are desperate to play less domestic game and that's what will happen. You can't have a winter break without playing less games. So the authorities will tinker with the cup games and probably end replays and the two legged league cup semifinals. All this of course will benefit the top teams and reduce opportunities for smaller clubs. There is already enough breaks in the calendar with International games and non participation in later cup rounds. As others have said we all know what the top teams will do, expect a money raising tournament in feckin Dubai. Would getting rid of cup replays and two legged League Cup semi finals be the worst thing?
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Post by foster on Feb 7, 2018 9:27:39 GMT
So having a 2 week total break means more congested fixtures another time in the season so how that translates into getting more rest I don't know.
Seems to me that rather than have a 2 week break, just make all teams play once per week in January, each Saturday. A solid week break between games over the course of a month with no midweek fixtures should give them enough recovery time.
I'm most concerned about Xmas / NY games. I'd hate for them not to happen as its fucking boring otherwise.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 7, 2018 9:32:17 GMT
Another change to the English game driven by the top 6 who are desperate to play less domestic game and that's what will happen. You can't have a winter break without playing less games. So the authorities will tinker with the cup games and probably end replays and the two legged league cup semifinals. All this of course will benefit the top teams and reduce opportunities for smaller clubs. There is already enough breaks in the calendar with International games and non participation in later cup rounds. As others have said we all know what the top teams will do, expect a money raising tournament in feckin Dubai. Would getting rid of cup replays and two legged League Cup semi finals be the worst thing? I reckon Newport would think so, Rob. They'd be waving goodbye to three quarters of a million pounds tonight. It would just create a worsening of the situation where those who have get more and those in desperate need have the ladder they earn every now and then kicked from underneath them. Not everything (particularly in how the English game is set up) has to be about the top division and the top teams in that division.
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