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Post by cooper67 on Feb 6, 2018 17:41:26 GMT
Swansea are doomed. It is all about who goes down with them. They're about as doomed as several other clubs right now. Your joke stopped being funny about four seasons ago. It wasn't even funny back then Dave! I notice he never comments on the replies.
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Post by mrteddysalad on Feb 6, 2018 17:48:20 GMT
The bottom 9 squads are all shite. I could see us finishing anywhere from 12th-18th. 12th to 20th. Naw, Huddersfield is crap. Im locking them into 20th. Don't see WBA passing us either. I think 18th is our bottom.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 18:18:32 GMT
Huddersfield are shite. ✓ West Brom are shite. ✓ Newcastle are shite. ✓ Brighton are shite.✓ Swansea are shite. X just beaten top sides and on their way up the table So are we but we'll finish above this crop of nonsense. So there is still hope if we are not as bad as they are? The promoted sides have weak squads, but their managers are doing an excellent job of keeping them performing at a flattering level. All are struggling to score enough goals and Huddersfield are conceding too many. But it is improbable that all 3 will be relegated. West Brom do have quality players and if, like us,they can start playing to their potential, they will start to move up the table. Our problem is defending; we don't have a regular quality goal scorer, but we do have plenty of players who can chip in with goals. Stopping goals is a lot easyer than scoring them and if Lambert can improve our defending we will pick up the necessary points. You need to score to get 3 points, repeatedly drawing like West Brom is not good enough. To get up the league, you also need to deliver surprise wins like Swansea have. Conclusion 2 of the promoted sides will be relegated. The 3rd relegation place will be occupied by any one of the other teams in the bottom half of the table. It's going to depend on matches like Saturday's game against Brighton and who can achieve the surprise wins against top 6 clubs or can catch the likes of Everton or Leicester or Burnley on an off day as they have little now to play for. Swansea will be right down there come May, don't you worry about that. They've picked up a couple of blinding result but they're fucking dross.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 6, 2018 18:22:52 GMT
Whoever is winning at the moment will always seem to be invincible George Orwell. You've properly mucked it up, the only thing I can see, is me little stick of Blackpool rock. George Formby.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 18:26:55 GMT
I think it’s out of us and Brighton, Huddersfield and West Brom are gone. Hopefully a bloody good win on Saturday will lift our spirits and batter brightons
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Post by robstokie on Feb 6, 2018 18:30:19 GMT
Think its between Ourselves, Southampton, Brighton and Newcastle to be honest - weve chucked 6 points away to Newcastle, so its imperative that we beat Brighton and Southampton. If we can do that, and pick up at least a point at Leicester, we still have a fighting chance.
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Post by harrysburrow on Feb 6, 2018 18:58:47 GMT
keep looking at the pros and cons of our last 12 games, but they're all cancelled out by the fact that we've got a bunch of footballers who have let themselves get ridiculously unfit?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 21:00:20 GMT
There is too much negativity and doom and gloom on this MB. I hope the people at the club have got more character and fight in them than many posters on Oatcake. There is no doubt we are deeply in the mire, and to make matters worse, some of our main opponents to avoid relegation have woken up and started to play as evidenced by Swansea's, Bournemouth's and others recent results, and tonight Watford who have joined Palace in beating the Champions. But there are lessons to be learnt from those victories. OBSERVE THIS: www.soccerstats.com/team.asp?league=england_2015&teamid=25 Leicester are one of many clubs that started a late recovery to avoid relegation, in their case they didn't start winning till April. Other clubs have done the same in the most most notably Wigan, who did it repeatedly. This season can still be turned round. We can still get our players fit. Lambert can still organize the defence to stop conceding goals. If any of the players are as defeatist as some posters on this board they need to be dropped immediately. Goal difference is clearly against us, but we are lucky in currently having less injuries than some of our competitors, or we had early in the season. Football is a team game, it is not about individuals, and there is still time to start playing better as a team and improve passing and creating goal scoring opportunities. This relegation battle is still between 10 or more teams, none of them are safe and the one's in greatest danger of going down are the one's who start thinking they are safe. This season will not be defined by the result against Brighton on Saturday, either one way or the other. It will be defined by whether the club can repeat some of the surprise results against Arsenal and ManU early in the season. No club's results go to forecast, even this season's ManC. We saw in the first half last Saturday that there is capability and potential in the team to get results. Stop it. You're being positive. According to some/most on here we're twenty points adrift with absolutely no chance of staying up. In fact in no time at all we'll be playing The Vale again. Good post fella
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Post by Dr Hesham on Feb 6, 2018 21:02:41 GMT
I disagree, I dont think neither Stoke nor WBA will relegate.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Feb 6, 2018 21:08:27 GMT
Is it time to blast this out at the ground again like we did during the push for promotion?
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Feb 6, 2018 21:12:19 GMT
I disagree, I dont think neither Stoke nor WBA will relegate. I so hope you are right.
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Post by smallthorner on Feb 6, 2018 21:19:33 GMT
There is too much negativity and doom and gloom on this MB. I hope the people at the club have got more character and fight in them than many posters on Oatcake. There is no doubt we are deeply in the mire, and to make matters worse, some of our main opponents to avoid relegation have woken up and started to play as evidenced by Swansea's, Bournemouth's and others recent results, and tonight Watford who have joined Palace in beating the Champions. But there are lessons to be learnt from those victories. OBSERVE THIS: www.soccerstats.com/team.asp?league=england_2015&teamid=25 Leicester are one of many clubs that started a late recovery to avoid relegation, in their case they didn't start winning till April. Other clubs have done the same in the most most notably Wigan, who did it repeatedly. This season can still be turned round. We can still get our players fit. Lambert can still organize the defence to stop conceding goals. If any of the players are as defeatist as some posters on this board they need to be dropped immediately. Goal difference is clearly against us, but we are lucky in currently having less injuries than some of our competitors, or we had early in the season. Football is a team game, it is not about individuals, and there is still time to start playing better as a team and improve passing and creating goal scoring opportunities. This relegation battle is still between 10 or more teams, none of them are safe and the one's in greatest danger of going down are the one's who start thinking they are safe. This season will not be defined by the result against Brighton on Saturday, either one way or the other. It will be defined by whether the club can repeat some of the surprise results against Arsenal and ManU early in the season. No club's results go to forecast, even this season's ManC. We saw in the first half last Saturday that there is capability and potential in the team to get results. Stop it. You're being positive. According to some/most on here we're twenty points adrift with absolutely no chance of staying up. In fact in no time at all we'll be playing The Vale again. Good post fella I think people need to be realistic. Which is probably half way house on some of the extremes on this board. The feeling of negativity is quite understandable... We've not had a lot to get excited about for some time. That's in all aspects. I'm not going to say that the game against Brighton is a "must win" but I reckon the afterglow or aftershock will define the rest of the season.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Feb 6, 2018 21:35:12 GMT
Swansea finding their shooting boots tonight 😳
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Post by iglugluk on Feb 6, 2018 21:46:24 GMT
Cup games can be misleading but on the evidence of tonight Swansea look way better than us in attack.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Feb 6, 2018 21:48:44 GMT
Notts defence have been terrible.
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Post by realstokebloke on Feb 6, 2018 22:01:15 GMT
Cup game & lesser opposition or no, Swansea, infuriatingly, are gaining some momentum.
You know, the very thing that was knocked the fook right out of us on Satdee.
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Post by duckling on Feb 7, 2018 20:13:08 GMT
Most seasons there is a team that does a great escape in the final 5-8 games. Sunderland and Leicester have done it in recent seasons, Swansea last season. Who will it be this year?
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Feb 8, 2018 8:50:07 GMT
We are struggling to score goals although we have shored up the defence somewhat. Sadly Swansea have gained some momentum and confidence and the Baggies have now got Sturridge..if he stays fit we are really going to struggle to get up the table.
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Post by RAF on Feb 8, 2018 9:13:15 GMT
It's the hope that kills you. Get used to it boys...We are down. We are wank and have the heart of something with no heart. Complete and utter shite we are. Constructed (destroyed) over several years by Scholes, Cartwright and Hughes. When posters complained that we had lost our heart and soul (DNA/Identity) they were shouted down and abused because we were Stokealona. The recruitment of a succession of journeymen is now paying dividends. I’m sincerely hoping our Chairman’s recent quote of “What’s all the fuss about” doesn’t comeback to haunt him and more importantly us the supporters. Ironic H
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Post by lancyclaret on Feb 8, 2018 10:08:47 GMT
If any team - Stoke or otherwise - manage 37 points they will stay up....with BURNLEY getting relegated instead on 36 points. I have looked on the Brighton and Southampton forums and they seem very confident of victory at Turf Moor while most Stoke, West Brom, Swansea, West Ham and Watford fans seem to think a visit from the Clarets is three home points in the bag. If all this happens, Burnley will need a result at home to Bournemouth on the final day to survive. Mind, with Heaton, Ward, Tarkowski, Brady, Defour, Wood ALL out injured along with Walters, Bardsley and Marney, I can see why Swansea fans are confident of victory this Saturday.
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Post by Veritas on Feb 8, 2018 10:16:24 GMT
If any team - Stoke or otherwise - manage 37 points they will stay up....with BURNLEY getting relegated instead on 36 points. I have looked on the Brighton and Southampton forums and they seem very confident of victory at Turf Moor while most Stoke, West Brom, Swansea and West Ham fans seem to think a visit from the Clarets is three home points are in the bag. If all this come true, Burnley will need a result at home to Bournemouth on the final day to survive. Brighton and Southampton forums are as deluded as many on here if they are confident of a win at Turf Moor and West Bromwich and West Ham to beat them at home, it may happen but confident!! Burnley will not be going down, at present I would say Huddersfield and West Brom are favourites with us, Newcastle and Southampton next with West Ham, Watford, and Palace far from safe.
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Post by kustokie on Feb 9, 2018 0:13:03 GMT
Every team in the relegation battle has improved recently except Stoke and Huddesfield. Right now, unless we improve significantly, it’s between Swansea and West Brom for the 18th place. I have come a long to see the match on Saturday so nobody cares more than me. I have seen every Stoke match either live or on the telly and I am very nervous, We’re in real trouble if we don’t take all three points against Bright.
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Post by parsonage1955 on Feb 9, 2018 17:03:57 GMT
There's absolutely nothing between Castle, West Brom, Brighton, Swansea and ourselves. Two from them five to join 'Udders for the drop. We might have the best sqiad on paper. Means nothing. It all depends on which three can find a bit of form now.
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Post by lordb on Feb 9, 2018 19:36:37 GMT
Why are people ruling West Ham and Palace out?
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Feb 9, 2018 22:14:45 GMT
If any team - Stoke or otherwise - manage 37 points they will stay up....with BURNLEY getting relegated instead on 36 points. I have looked on the Brighton and Southampton forums and they seem very confident of victory at Turf Moor while most Stoke, West Brom, Swansea, West Ham and Watford fans seem to think a visit from the Clarets is three home points in the bag. If all this happens, Burnley will need a result at home to Bournemouth on the final day to survive. Mind, with Heaton, Ward, Tarkowski, Brady, Defour, Wood ALL out injured along with Walters, Bardsley and Marney, I can see why Swansea fans are confident of victory this Saturday. Swansea are the luckiest team in the league right now.facing Burnley now when they have their first team injured
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2018 0:14:42 GMT
Whoever is winning at the moment will always seem to be invincible George Orwell. “Under the spreading chestnut tree I sold you and you sold me--” Objective considerations of contemporary phenomena compel the conclusion that success or failure in competitive activities exhibits no tendency to be commensurate with innate capacity, but that a considerable element of the unpredictable must invariably be taken into account.” ― George Orwell, Politics and the English Language
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2018 0:57:14 GMT
I have felt from the start we were heading down and I just can't see it changing. It just as that type of feel about it. We just can't stop giving cheep goals away.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2018 1:13:04 GMT
To many similarities to our last relegation. 1, 97-98= 2017-2018 2, new stadium= new stand 3, change of manager during season 4, managed by a Welsh man. Alan Durban 97-98= Mark Hughes 2017-2018 5,98-98 knocked out of FA cup 3rd round= 17-18 knocked out 3rd round 6,97-98 knocked out of league cup 3rd round= 17-18 knocked out of cup 3rd round
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Post by Gods on Feb 10, 2018 1:20:34 GMT
Whoever is winning at the moment will always seem to be invincible George Orwell. “Under the spreading chestnut tree I sold you and you sold me--” Objective considerations of contemporary phenomena compel the conclusion that success or failure in competitive activities exhibits no tendency to be commensurate with innate capacity, but that a considerable element of the unpredictable must invariably be taken into account.” ― George Orwell, Politics and the English Language Yes indeed, he is bang on the money with that, and there isn't a chancier game than football anywhere to be found.
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Post by auntiegeorge on Feb 10, 2018 9:47:21 GMT
16th Stoke 17th Newcastle --------------------- 18th Swansea 19th Huddersfield 20th WBA
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