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Post by redstriper on Feb 6, 2018 6:54:30 GMT
For an outside view, none of the pundits on Radio 5 last night predicted us to get relegated. West Brom, Huddersfield, Newcastle and Brighton were mostly mentioned. They have the benefit of being able to be objective, unlike the knicker wetting defeatist prophets of doom on here. I like to think most of our supporters are protecting their voice-boxes ready to sing their hearts out on Saturday for the must win game against Brighton. As opposed to wringing their hands and clamouring to tell the world how they cleverly predicted our demise.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 7:18:34 GMT
Our lack of a goalscorer, or proper alternative striker, will kill us. We missed it against Watford and we missed it against Bournemouth.
It is already costing us games and points.
Expecting the back four to keep clean sheets every game in the hope we nick something up the other end is putting a whole load of pressure on the side.
With a fair wind we will get away with it for sure. How is the wind currently?
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Feb 6, 2018 7:38:18 GMT
Our lack of a goalscorer, or proper alternative striker, will kill us. We missed it against Watford and we missed it against Bournemouth. It is already costing us games and points. Expecting the back four to keep clean sheets every game in the hope we nick something up the other end is putting a whole load of pressure on the side. With a fair wind we will get away with it for sure. How is the wind currently? It’s currently blowing a boatload of piss back into our own faces.
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Post by chipsaway on Feb 6, 2018 7:39:47 GMT
It's definitely between us...and approximately half the division.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Feb 6, 2018 7:52:47 GMT
Our lack of a goalscorer, or proper alternative striker, will kill us. We missed it against Watford and we missed it against Bournemouth. It is already costing us games and points. Expecting the back four to keep clean sheets every game in the hope we nick something up the other end is putting a whole load of pressure on the side. With a fair wind we will get away with it for sure. How is the wind currently? We could foreseeably have had 6 points, at least 4 from the last two games if we had a striker. But the billionaire owners were probably thinking of self sufficiency. And no, we won't be ok with a fair wind, where are these 3-4 games we will win? With crouch starting up front?
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Post by exiledpotter on Feb 6, 2018 8:30:28 GMT
Unfortunately the Premier League isn't a computer game where you can replay the match if you don't like the score ... I just don't think pondering who we might have signed and for what position really helps.
We are where we are, with who we've got .... I am going to give them my long distance support come what may (I think we and Swansea will drag someone else into the mess instead of us) and then happily pick the season apart along with every one else.
For some reason none of the club's are consistent ...so half the table are still in trouble or at least nervous.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Feb 6, 2018 8:38:50 GMT
With our GD that is another minus point - I am afraid we have gone
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Post by NG4POTTERS on Feb 6, 2018 8:45:59 GMT
We are definitely not 'gone'. If we were 10 points adrift maybe. I think we will go but we can drag ourselves out. This week before the brighton game is massively important. Lambert needs to really get into them and inspire some positivity. Ultimately fitness and mentality will do us. It's not over by a long stretch though.
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Post by thevoid on Feb 6, 2018 8:51:47 GMT
I don't know what all the fuss is about.
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Post by Gods on Feb 6, 2018 9:23:50 GMT
Whoever is winning at the moment will always seem to be invincible
George Orwell.
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Post by mrcoke on Feb 6, 2018 9:44:14 GMT
Whoever is winning at the moment will always seem to be invincible George Orwell. Good one; the problem with all predictions is they are based on the current status and what has happened in the past. As I tried to point out in my earlier post we know from past experience it is far, far too early to assume clubs in the bottom half of the table are safe, or that the bottom clubs are doomed. “The future is like a corridor into which we can see only by the light coming from behind.”
― Edward Weyer Jr. Our future depends on what we do from now on, not on what we did last week, last year, or the past 2 seasons, which people keep referring to.
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Post by silverdollar on Feb 6, 2018 9:47:05 GMT
It’s looking like us or Swansea for the final relegation slot. Southampton have too much quality, Brighton have a bad run in but look to have just about enough. Newcastle have bolstered their squad and have a good manager. Huddersfield are crap and will drop as will WBA...who do we play in our last match again?? IMO Swansea will finish well clear of relegation. "Southampton have too much quality"? If that's the case why are they down their? I too think WBA and Huddersfield should get relegated But the other team to go down will be one of three; Southampton, Watford or Stoke and it will go to the wire with 35 points definitely being a safety mark!
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Post by shangamuzo on Feb 6, 2018 9:55:16 GMT
Whoever is winning at the moment will always seem to be invincible George Orwell. I think he also said 2+2=5.
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Post by stokecity4life on Feb 6, 2018 10:05:40 GMT
I`ve said it before and i`ll say it again, Saturday is huge, it should be much more clear after the Brighton game.
We really all should be rallying together and being the 12th man to give our all for a victory on Saturday.
Then we can assess properly, this is one of the most winnable games we have in our run in, and we have to win.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 10:53:25 GMT
Huddersfield are shite. West Brom are shite. Newcastle are shite. Brighton are shite. Swansea are shite.
So are we but we'll finish above this crop of nonsense.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 6, 2018 12:40:41 GMT
IF we Brighton we have a fighting chance and they are right back in the shit!
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Post by lordb on Feb 6, 2018 13:27:47 GMT
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Post by lordb on Feb 6, 2018 13:32:19 GMT
next weekends fixtures
SATURDAY 10TH FEBRUARY Tottenham Hotspur 12:30 Arsenal Everton 15:00 Crystal Palace Stoke City 15:00 Brighton & Hove Albion Swansea City 15:00 Burnley West Ham United 15:00 Watford Manchester City 17:30 Leicester City SUNDAY 11TH FEBRUARY Huddersfield Town 12:00 AFC Bournemouth Newcastle United 14:15 Manchester United Southampton 16:30 Liverpool MONDAY 12TH FEBRUARY Chelsea 20:00 West Bromwich Albion
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Post by mrcoke on Feb 6, 2018 14:01:27 GMT
Huddersfield are shite. ✓ West Brom are shite. ✓ Newcastle are shite. ✓ Brighton are shite.✓ Swansea are shite. X just beaten top sides and on their way up the table So are we but we'll finish above this crop of nonsense. So there is still hope if we are not as bad as they are? The promoted sides have weak squads, but their managers are doing an excellent job of keeping them performing at a flattering level. All are struggling to score enough goals and Huddersfield are conceding too many. But it is improbable that all 3 will be relegated. West Brom do have quality players and if, like us,they can start playing to their potential, they will start to move up the table. Our problem is defending; we don't have a regular quality goal scorer, but we do have plenty of players who can chip in with goals. Stopping goals is a lot easyer than scoring them and if Lambert can improve our defending we will pick up the necessary points. You need to score to get 3 points, repeatedly drawing like West Brom is not good enough. To get up the league, you also need to deliver surprise wins like Swansea have. Conclusion 2 of the promoted sides will be relegated. The 3rd relegation place will be occupied by any one of the other teams in the bottom half of the table. It's going to depend on matches like Saturday's game against Brighton and who can achieve the surprise wins against top 6 clubs or can catch the likes of Everton or Leicester or Burnley on an off day as they have little now to play for.
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Post by sutekh on Feb 6, 2018 14:06:17 GMT
We will be down long before the seasons before the seasons end.
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Post by mattface on Feb 6, 2018 14:42:15 GMT
Don't count out West Ham, Brighton, Palace,Southampton
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Post by lordb on Feb 6, 2018 15:57:36 GMT
Huddersfield are shite. ✓ West Brom are shite. ✓ Newcastle are shite. ✓ Brighton are shite.✓ Swansea are shite. X just beaten top sides and on their way up the table So are we but we'll finish above this crop of nonsense. So there is still hope if we are not as bad as they are? The promoted sides have weak squads, but their managers are doing an excellent job of keeping them performing at a flattering level. All are struggling to score enough goals and Huddersfield are conceding too many. But it is improbable that all 3 will be relegated. West Brom do have quality players and if, like us,they can start playing to their potential, they will start to move up the table. Our problem is defending; we don't have a regular quality goal scorer, but we do have plenty of players who can chip in with goals. Stopping goals is a lot easyer than scoring them and if Lambert can improve our defending we will pick up the necessary points. You need to score to get 3 points, repeatedly drawing like West Brom is not good enough. To get up the league, you also need to deliver surprise wins like Swansea have. Conclusion 2 of the promoted sides will be relegated. The 3rd relegation place will be occupied by any one of the other teams in the bottom half of the table. It's going to depend on matches like Saturday's game against Brighton and who can achieve the surprise wins against top 6 clubs or can catch the likes of Everton or Leicester or Burnley on an off day as they have little now to play for. Defending/goals conceded improved under Lambert so far Means we can win some matches by scoring twice or once even.
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Post by lordb on Feb 6, 2018 15:58:04 GMT
We will be down long before the seasons before the seasons end. Doubt anyone will.
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Post by sutekh on Feb 6, 2018 16:15:28 GMT
We will be down long before the seasons before the seasons end. Doubt anyone will. Hope that you are right,but stoke being stoke I always tend to fear the worst.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 16:16:33 GMT
Give me one glimmer of hope that we can survive and you aren't allowed to say there are other shit teams in this league. What attribute do we have that makes you think we can save ourselves? Shaqiri... he is the only glimmer of hope we have...the only one who can do a bit of magic and steal a point.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Feb 6, 2018 16:19:30 GMT
It’s still really tight even at this stage so I don’t see it as only between us and Swansea just yet.
Brighton is clearly a massive game, if we can win that it will set us up nicely.
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Post by VolvicStokie on Feb 6, 2018 16:20:53 GMT
Swansea just had 2 players out for the season. Bony one of them.
Its West Brom, Huddersfield and Swansea for me. Brighton due to their run in and closely followed by us. Looking at Brightons remaining fixtures, if they pick up more than 10 points i'll be surprised.
We should beat them this saturday, then we've got Leicester and Southampton away, I expect us to pick up points in some format.
Then we have 2 home games, one against Man City, which is going to be fucking tough, but don't write us off for that just yet. Burnley managed a point. And they've lost Sane. Very difficult but if we can somehow pick a point up, then it's most certainly a bonus point. Most likely scenario, is zero.
Then onto Everton, that WILL be a tight game, one I believe if we're on our A game, we'll win.
Arsenal away, traditional zero. Spurs at home. I'll take anything other than a 4-0 loss! West Ham away - a point will be nice, 3 be even better if we get one over on the snake cunt. Burnley at home, we should have beat them at their place, with a Hughes team!!!! 3 POINTS! Liverpool away - Zero Crystal Palace at home, could be monumentally important for both sides. I'll take a point. Swansea away - Well, by that point we could be safe, we might not be. But we have to go to these places expecting 3 points?
Theres a return there of around 11 points, possibly 14 if we can beat Swansea away.
It's going to be close isnt it?
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Feb 6, 2018 16:24:16 GMT
It's the 6th of Feb and we're 6 points from 10th.
We'll likely be in the mix but to already claim we're down? Grow a backbone.
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Post by iamsmokey on Feb 6, 2018 16:28:48 GMT
Taking each match as it comes I estimate that West Brom, Swansea and Huddersfield are going down. Stoke will get to 38, I hope, but all the other clubs have some terrible matches ahead of them, and West Bromwich 30, Swansea 31, and Huddersfield 33. The others will get to 35 and upwards.
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Post by iglugluk on Feb 6, 2018 17:29:45 GMT
I don't know what all the fuss is about. Yes and we did try really hard to sign a striker but you don't always get what you want. Luckily we deserved to get something from the Bournemouth game so that's very heartening.......
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