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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 3, 2018 20:03:34 GMT
If you haven't got the fitness levels to maintain it, not sure how playing a game that leaves them all completely knackered by half-time is a sensible tactic? Ha ha. I've said exactly the same on another thread
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Post by Dingdangdoo on Feb 3, 2018 20:07:10 GMT
At the game. The effort and pressing in the first half was excellent. Could have been more than one up against a side that beat Chelsea 3-0 last week. Great performance. Second half just ran out of steam but couldn’t criticise a single player or the manager. Shame we conceded to a badly defended set piece . Otherwise really good signs today and unlucky to lose Excellent balanced view. Thank you!!!
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 3, 2018 20:11:12 GMT
If you haven't got the fitness levels to maintain it, not sure how playing a game that leaves them all completely knackered by half-time is a sensible tactic? Makes the lack of subs even more mystifying too. However as shite as the 2nd half was I do agree with the OP that the first half was encouraging
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Post by mickmacc on Feb 3, 2018 20:13:58 GMT
If you haven't got the fitness levels to maintain it, not sure how playing a game that leaves them all completely knackered by half-time is a sensible tactic? Ha ha. I've said exactly the same on another thread How do you want us to play? Slow it down a la Stokealona? Well that worked didn’t it? Lambert has correctly identified we need to press and work harder to stay up. What the hell is wrong with that?
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Post by RAF on Feb 3, 2018 20:19:45 GMT
Good first half. Shit second half, sat back fucking knackered and the manager did a fucking Hughes with his subs. If we had subbed at the very least Crouch on 60 mins we would have pissed that game. All down to our manager.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 3, 2018 20:20:00 GMT
Ha ha. I've said exactly the same on another thread How do you want us to play? Slow it down a la Stokealona? Well that worked didn’t it? Lambert has correctly identified we need to press and work harder to stay up. What the hell is wrong with that? Nothing if it produces the results we need. If it doesn't, then plenty. As it happens I think Lamberts sole objective was to pick up enough points to keep us in contention up to the next break in fixtures. A bit like moyes delayed impact at West ham, if fitness really is our problem, he's arguably going to work them too hard leading into games in the hope that by Leicester game, we'll be flying.
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Post by emmbrook1956 on Feb 3, 2018 20:21:19 GMT
Well another game goes by and no points is the result. Badou will no doubt make a big difference in our efforts to stay up.
I was not there but MOM on BBC augurs well for the next crucial 12 matches. 6 at home. We must win at least 4 more games. We most definitely need at least 38 points but it may be 39 given our appalling goal difference
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Post by mickmacc on Feb 3, 2018 20:22:08 GMT
I think he knows the limitations of the squad in terms of talent and wants us to work hard harry and press to get results.
Personally I think he’s right and in a few games it will show.
Today bizarrely imho was better than Watford
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Post by wuzza on Feb 3, 2018 20:23:31 GMT
I’ve definitely watched the wrong game here (certainly not the same game that Lambert seems to have witnessed) - to my eyes we were our usual witless, knackered, submissive selves in the 2nd half. Horrible to see again.
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Post by discokaraoke on Feb 3, 2018 20:26:01 GMT
At the game. The effort and pressing in the first half was excellent. Could have been more than one up against a side that beat Chelsea 3-0 last week. Great performance. Second half just ran out of steam but couldn’t criticise a single player or the manager. Shame we conceded to a badly defended set piece . Otherwise really good signs today and unlucky to lose How can you say we ran out of steam and then not criticise a single player. How can a very experienced bunch be so woefully short of what is required to see out a game of football? Fitness, we are a very unfit team, simple as that. That is why we are in the bottom 3 along with our last managers tatics. Lambert will sort it out.
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Post by mickmacc on Feb 3, 2018 20:27:02 GMT
How can you say we ran out of steam and then not criticise a single player. How can a very experienced bunch be so woefully short of what is required to see out a game of football? Fitness, we are a very unfit team, simple as that. That is why we are in the bottom 3 along with our last managers tatics. Lambert will sort it out. He identified that the day he arrived
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 3, 2018 20:44:40 GMT
How can you say we ran out of steam and then not criticise a single player. How can a very experienced bunch be so woefully short of what is required to see out a game of football? Fitness, we are a very unfit team, simple as that. That is why we are in the bottom 3 along with our last managers tatics. Lambert will sort it out. Lambert spotted it a mile off as mickmacc and you have said (although lots of us including messageboard punchbag Benji were derided for it saying it at the time under Hughes) but I fear it will be too late. We are the wheezy boys with a note from Matron. Too little too late.
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Post by senojbor on Feb 3, 2018 21:31:51 GMT
We're fucked and we're going down..well done lads. If that's how you feel why bother? There were lots of positives today.
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Feb 3, 2018 21:44:45 GMT
At the game. The effort and pressing in the first half was excellent. Could have been more than one up against a side that beat Chelsea 3-0 last week. Great performance. Second half just ran out of steam but couldn’t criticise a single player or the manager. Shame we conceded to a badly defended set piece . Otherwise really good signs today and unlucky to lose We dont need 'really good signs', we need points ffs. You have totally contradicted yourself by saying you couldn't criticise one player yet we conceded from bad defending? Therefore, that is criticism. Your either deluded or on the wind up. SGS
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Feb 3, 2018 21:47:11 GMT
We're fucked and we're going down..well done lads. If that's how you feel why bother? There were lots of positives today. There are zero positives. We lost and therefore got 0 points. Simple as. SGS
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2018 21:47:44 GMT
Well done lads on another really uninspiring defeat.
How long are people going to keep spouting this bollocks? When we are one fame away from relegation or when, all of a sudden, we are mathematically sure that we are going down?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2018 21:49:49 GMT
I think he knows the limitations of the squad in terms of talent and wants us to work hard harry and press to get results. Personally I think he’s right and in a few games it will show. Today bizarrely imho was better than Watford That's it then. We will definitely stay up if we play better than we did against Watford, when we were beyond shit.
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Feb 3, 2018 21:52:36 GMT
If you haven't got the fitness levels to maintain it, not sure how playing a game that leaves them all completely knackered by half-time is a sensible tactic? This. Most teams that adopt a high tempo pressing game effectively rest during their possession phases of a match,unfortunately we just don't have the ability on the ball to do it for long enough periods,where that leaves us is anyone's guess.We're certainly still too fragile to sit back for too long.
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Post by thevoid on Feb 3, 2018 22:00:53 GMT
How can you say we ran out of steam and then not criticise a single player. How can a very experienced bunch be so woefully short of what is required to see out a game of football? We played a high pressing game today and it takes a hell of a lot to keep it up for 90 minutes. We just needed another goal while we were on top But we didn't get it and we lost.
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Post by thevoid on Feb 3, 2018 22:02:54 GMT
Two comedy goals conceded, including a set piece against a team of midgets. Being camped in our own half for pretty much the entire second half. Being unable to keep hold of the ball for more than a couple of passes. Complete lack of game management from the sideline. It was just like a Hughes away game. Nonsense . The first half was excellent Are points awarded for one good half now?
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Post by kjpt140v on Feb 3, 2018 22:09:42 GMT
I never call for a manager to be sacked wether I think they should or not. I refuse to boo my team for poor displays or single out players for criticism but you sir are talking absolute uninformed rubbish. The performance of our team after the first twenty minutes was probably the worst I've seen in a long long time other than the acceptance of Coventry. I love my team, our team, but we were more than poor and didn't know how to deal with Bournemouth as they didn't know how to deal with us for twenty minutes unfortunately we stopped. We didn't run out of steam and if we did then that's a criticism of their fitness. If you were at the game and thought the first 20 minutes was the worst you’ve seen I give up. Read what I wrote dickhead and I never miss a game. By the way apology accepted.
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Post by kjpt140v on Feb 3, 2018 22:10:02 GMT
I never call for a manager to be sacked wether I think they should or not. I refuse to boo my team for poor displays or single out players for criticism but you sir are talking absolute uninformed rubbish. The performance of our team after the first twenty minutes was probably the worst I've seen in a long long time other than the acceptance of Coventry. I love my team, our team, but we were more than poor and didn't know how to deal with Bournemouth as they didn't know how to deal with us for twenty minutes unfortunately we stopped. We didn't run out of steam and if we did then that's a criticism of their fitness. If you were at the game and thought the first 20 minutes was the worst you’ve seen I give up. Read what I wrote dickhead and I never miss a game. By the way apology accepted.
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Post by discokaraoke on Feb 3, 2018 22:20:54 GMT
Nonsense . The first half was excellent Brilliant, what do we have to show for it? Hughes often had us play very well for the first half. And about 2 or 3 goals down. We were winning at half time.
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Post by mickmacc on Feb 3, 2018 22:31:31 GMT
If you were at the game and thought the first 20 minutes was the worst you’ve seen I give up. Read what I wrote dickhead and I never miss a game. By the way apology accepted. Still talk shite though
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Post by vahl on Feb 3, 2018 22:31:39 GMT
We came out and played amazing for the best part of half an hour and then shit ourselves, scurried in to our shells and reverted to type for the next hour.
That is unacceptable for a team in our position.
Also, yet again we are sat here on the end of a loss because of defensive mistakes costing us. I bet there is a bloopers DVD worth from 26 games.
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Post by chuckrocky on Feb 3, 2018 22:38:17 GMT
Brilliant, what do we have to show for it? Hughes often had us play very well for the first half. And about 2 or 3 goals down. We were winning at half time. Only against Chelsea and Man City did we ever go in at halftime more than one goal down. Our capitulations usually happened during the second half.
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Post by discokaraoke on Feb 3, 2018 22:50:09 GMT
And about 2 or 3 goals down. We were winning at half time. Only against Chelsea and Man City did we ever go in at halftime more than one goal down. Our capitulations usually happened during the second half. Yea, due to fitness
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Post by kjpt140v on Feb 3, 2018 23:09:03 GMT
Read what I wrote dickhead and I never miss a game. By the way apology accepted. Still talk shite though I think the majority on this thread think your the one think your the one that talks shite. You aint got a clue mate, carry on with your knitting.
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Post by mickmacc on Feb 3, 2018 23:20:55 GMT
I think the majority on this thread think your the one think your the one that talks shite. You aint got a clue mate, carry on with your knitting. Clueless
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2018 23:23:41 GMT
Well done today lads. You managed to lose yet again against an utterly average football team for the second time this season.
Great stuff. Mind you, we won the first half!
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