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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Feb 3, 2018 17:19:19 GMT
It's not a rallying cry, I'm absolutely fuming with todays result but the last thing we need to do is get on the players/managers back. I can see a 100% improvement in the players, lets be honest if Hughes was still in charge we would have lost to both Watford and Huddersfield. It's not their fault that the squad is unbalanced and thread bare. It's not their fault that other clubs have acted fast and effectively (bar West Brazil) and it's 100% not their fault just under 50 million has been spent on three players who are at best useless (I do still hold a bit of hope for Bera). Start again against Brighton and lets get three points, the board can seriously f off though.
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Post by onionman on Feb 3, 2018 17:20:00 GMT
Our board do not deserve a football club, let alone one in the Premier League. The only way we could have gone from the position we were in two years ago to the position we are in today in such a short period of time is by making probably 10 or 12 catastrophic decisions in a row, without making a single good decision. They've somehow managed to do it.
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Post by huuuuuth on Feb 3, 2018 17:20:41 GMT
We've been left with a bag of shit, and if PFL manages to steer us away from relegation then he'll more than deserve the massive bonus he's been probably promised. But. The buck will always stop with the people who own and run a company. And those people should be able to see, and head off any potential issues waaaaayyyyyy before they start to manifest. We've all been able to see what's been coming for the last 2 years. Why the fuck haven't they? And no, I'm not pissing my pants because we've lost
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 3, 2018 17:30:25 GMT
Have taken massive gambles with our/their football club by 1)Not sacking Hughes quickly enough 2)Not investing in a striker in the Jan window Next week now is absolutely massive against Brighton and defeat would be unthinkable Nothing to do with investing in January. We haven't invested enough in the squad for 6 years. It's a litany of failure at owner, board, recruitment, management and player level. 10 years in the PL and it's come to this. We need new owners.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 3, 2018 17:32:54 GMT
Have taken massive gambles with our/their football club by 1)Not sacking Hughes quickly enough 2)Not investing in a striker in the Jan window Next week now is absolutely massive against Brighton and defeat would be unthinkable Nothing to do with investing in January. We haven't invested enough in the squad for 6 years. It's a litany of failure at owner, board, recruitment, management and player level. 10 years in the PL and it's come to this. We need new owners. They needed to invest in a striker in January so it is imo but the previous manager invested in a lot of utter shit which has come back to haunt us.
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Post by pacman on Feb 3, 2018 17:33:40 GMT
All the other teams around have invested in their playing staff and we are just doing not enough. Looks like we have made a few good signings but the chronic underfunding and bad board management we have had over the last 2-3 years will put us down this season. This is evident from the fact we are still playing Crouch as our no 1 striker and playing an injured butland instead of a trustworthy sub goal keeper. I feel for Lambert as I think he has been set up to fail and then get the blame when we go down.
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Post by generationex on Feb 3, 2018 17:34:34 GMT
The board got lucky in appointing Pulis at the right time. It was unlikely they could repeat the trick. But theres still no other owners with money and a genuine interest in Stoke City.
Weâre not down yet. Get behind the club.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Feb 3, 2018 17:35:53 GMT
If they really really wanted to survive, they could have paid out the money needed to make the couple of extra signings we needed.
They are not bothered if we go down
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Post by poethebald on Feb 3, 2018 17:35:58 GMT
It's not just the failure to sack Hughes.It is glaringly obvious, especially over the past few weeks that the manager does not have much input into the purchasing of our players.Its a dangerous line to tread when none football people are choosing the players to buy. The level of investment over the past 5 seasons does not befit a very wealthy Premier league team and now we are in a desperate situation.A complete recipe for disaster.
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Post by mrteddysalad on Feb 3, 2018 17:36:01 GMT
the "not having a striker" excuse is getting old, our strikers never get the ball in a good position. We could have Messi and Suarez up there and our MF couldn't get it to them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2018 17:47:29 GMT
Iâve always seen it as the making of the board
Disappointed in their hughes appointment
Disappointed they didnât replace him in summer
Disappointed they failed to get Quique
Disappointed they appointed lambert
Disappointed they didnât spend big on a striker recently
I can see peter wanking himself silly at the thought of appointing TP next season in the championship
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Post by huuuuuth on Feb 3, 2018 17:50:34 GMT
The whole thing stinks of complacency and arrogance at board level, and they're reaping exactly what they've sown. Trouble is, it's us poor fuckers who will suffer as usual
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 3, 2018 17:55:09 GMT
The whole thing stinks of complacency and arrogance at board level, and they're reaping exactly what they've sown. Trouble is, it's us poor fuckers who will suffer as usual Add penny pinching and incompetence and you've summed it up perfectly.
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Post by huuuuuth on Feb 3, 2018 17:56:21 GMT
The whole thing stinks of complacency and arrogance at board level, and they're reaping exactly what they've sown. Trouble is, it's us poor fuckers who will suffer as usual Add penny pinching and incompetence and you've summed it up perfectly. They were trying to cover that up as "self sufficiency" mate
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2018 17:59:20 GMT
The board have made many mistakes however not sacking Hughes in the Summer was the biggest by an absolute mile. A blind man could have seen what is happening now.
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Post by harrysburrow on Feb 3, 2018 18:02:50 GMT
They don't care.
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Post by liamo on Feb 3, 2018 18:06:17 GMT
I don't get the whole self sufficient thing they like to reel off when we don't spend big money every summer
Like we're meant to just start popping out academy starlets overnight suddenly like Southampton
Teams like Stoke need to spend money and spend it properly, we don't and we haven't so that's why we're where we are
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Post by huuuuuth on Feb 3, 2018 18:09:07 GMT
The last 2 years has been a complete clusterfuck of epic proportions. Even if we manage to stay up, where does that leave us next season? We'll be like a newly promoted side, not one who will be starting their eleventh season in the Prem. I'm going to crack a good bottle of red open and relax, as I'm winding myself the fuck up right now đĄ
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Post by butlerstreet on Feb 3, 2018 18:10:05 GMT
What gets me is the credit they get from distant, lazy journalists for their 'loyalty' in sticking with Hughes as long as they did (ie until it was close to another storming of the Waddington).
It was actually lazy, gutless management of the club by the directors. If this was because of a split between directors as to what should happen, then there must be a change in structure with a clear decision maker appointed. With the greatest of respect to PC, its beginning to look like he's clinging to a status he possibly no longer deserves. And ultimately that's going to cost him, and SCFC.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 3, 2018 18:19:43 GMT
The whole thing stinks of complacency and arrogance at board level, and they're reaping exactly what they've sown. Trouble is, it's us poor fuckers who will suffer as usual Add penny pinching and incompetence and you've summed it up perfectly. This relegation has been two years in the making, the club have had ample time and opportunity to stop it happening, instead we have gone from one disastrous decision to another, self inflicted they should hang their heads in shame incompetent half wits.
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Post by simple on Feb 3, 2018 18:40:05 GMT
The board are the same who ploughed millions in when we were in the Championship with 12000 crowds.Those fans new it was going pear shape two years ago,but a lot of the JCLs kept saying we finished 9th and were happy.If we had protested load enough last season maybe change would of happened earlier,most JCLs said we would be fine Hughes always start slowly.Next season when we are back to 12000 the JCLs will disappear.
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Post by starkiller on Feb 3, 2018 18:55:33 GMT
Lambert's improved us but he was appointed because he was cheap, available and British. I can't help thinking we could have done so much better and as you say that's down to the board or to be more specific down to Peter. Not many managers would work under Coates' restraints, we didn't have many applicants.
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Post by Ygor on Feb 3, 2018 19:20:53 GMT
I'm glad most people seem to realise where the blame has always resided. The buck has always stopped at the Board.
However, we need to get behind Lambert and the players big style. The twelfth man needs to be absolutely savage and ruthless next Saturday against Brighton. We need to vocally hound the opposition every time they have the ball, no let up for 90mins plus.
And of course the players need to be on their game, fight to regain possession every time they lose the ball and with a shed load of welcome luck, we will survive the drop.
And then, and only then, regardless of whether we stay up or go down, we should turn our attention to Messrs Coates and Co. Frankly - and I know some of you won't have this - we need new owners who are prepared to invest (and lose money because that is the nature of the beast) and move Stoke City into a new era in the PL. I'm bloody sick of being "cute" and self-sufficiency. But if you want change, you have to be prepared to baulk against the notion that we are Stoke and all we can expect is this mid-table bollocks or worse. But with this Board, fat chance. There. I said it.
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Post by magwitch on Feb 3, 2018 19:37:41 GMT
Apparently Denise wanted to sack Hughes last summer, but was opposed by Peter and John. It also looks as though the transfer team controlled by Scholes, Cartwright and John Coates must be an idea of Peter Coates. If Lambert can keep the Club in the Premier League, he will have pulled off a miracle. My guess is that this inadequate, unfit squad will see Stoke City relegated this season and Paul Lambert gone at some stage next season. Maybe then the Board will see sense and appoint Graham Potter as their last throw of the dice.
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Post by Godo on Feb 3, 2018 19:49:30 GMT
Agree but I can't believe we started with Crouch today......it may be the board who left us without a quality striker but they didn't pick the 11 today or wait too long to make substitutions. The board are entirely culpable with Coates reverting to his small catering company mentality for the last 2 seasons. Hughes culpable because we are unfit. Anything less than 3 pts against Brighton and we are fucked. I can't believe a multi ÂŁmillion like Bet 365 with their name on our shirts and our stadium allowed this to happen. We only have 8 or 9 players in the squad who are now genuine Premiership standard so what did they think was going to happen?
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Post by Boothen on Feb 3, 2018 20:06:17 GMT
Like I've been saying for ages, we're a Premier League team being run into the ground by a board with League 2 mentality.
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Post by Boothen on Feb 3, 2018 20:06:49 GMT
Delete.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 3, 2018 20:12:02 GMT
We have under invested for a number of years whilst our rivals have been investing and have now gone past us in terms of quality. Spot on and when we have we have done it very badly
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Post by keasie1863 on Feb 3, 2018 20:19:49 GMT
Add penny pinching and incompetence and you've summed it up perfectly. This relegation has been two years in the making, the club have had ample time and opportunity to stop it happening, instead we have gone from one disastrous decision to another, self inflicted they should hang their heads in shame incompetent half wits. "This relegation " Forgive me for asking are we relegated already. Ffs it doesn't look rosy, but in the last three games under lambert, at least I have seen organisation, passion and fight which was seriously lacking under hughes.yes I too blame the board for their ineptitude and I am angry about that. But we have plenty of opportunities too escape the drop, starting with Brighton. So come on I honestly believe we will stay up, let's have it i say.
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Post by songthrush01 on Feb 3, 2018 20:25:44 GMT
Doesnât matter who we replaced Hughes with the writing was already on the wall. Absolutely disgusting mismanagement of a football club, all this shite about âThe Familyâ is a myth, they couldnât give a fuck and it shows. how right,they run the club like a political party all spin and no substance how some of the fans fall for it i dont know.
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