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Post by realstokebloke on Feb 1, 2018 14:00:06 GMT
Full backs tick Attacking midfielder tick Defensive midfielder X Striker X Half a job Bob transfer window 5/10 Good but by no means good enough 😐 It's going to be a long, fretful campaign 😨 Is Badou an attacking midfielder? I think the point is that he isn't an out and out defensive one tbh.
You know, a bit like we desperately need.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 14:09:11 GMT
6, should have tried to ship out Berahino. You make it sound so easy. But just who is going to want a player with his recent professional history (not referring to his personal history as a boy), his attitude, and the wages that go with him? The answer of course is no one. We already tried to flog Imbula and had no success at all with it. We can only get rid of Wimmer if we actually offer a club money to take him. As for the transfer window it really is hard to make a mark when you haven't seen 2/3 of the signings playing for us. Moreover the transfer team needs to be judged on the postions that didn't see changes. I have no doubt that behind the scenes they will have tried to sign a striker, but with their hands tied, and with every club in the world including the biggest ones looking for new ammunition we were always going to struggle to sign the type we were looking for. So we might have set our targets a little lower. An injury to Diouf and/or Crouch and we have to rely on one that we would like to show to the door. It's just not good enough. So for our overall actions in the window 2. For Bauer 7
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Post by realstokebloke on Feb 1, 2018 14:09:33 GMT
I think the club did well in what is a notoriously difficult time to do transfers, when clubs that are competing for Europe, a cup, promotion, or fighting against relegation are not going to let their best players go. It is no use saying we should have gone and bought a defensive MF or a striker if the cupboard is bare. I am not envious of any of our peer club acquisitions and think they have bought/loaned for the sake of it, freshen their squad, or to wake up their present players, not because of good value. They have taken punts on dubious players which might come off but equally might simply disrupt their squad. There is no way we can compete with the big clubs; we have seen ManC spike one of our potential deal and I for one am relieved the 'Ndiaye signing went through and was not stopped by some Arsenal fan in the authorities preventing a work permit. I didn't see many shouts to bring Joselu back, and as usual there were the false rumours in the social media that a big club were going to buy N'Zonzi. This analysis puts us in a good light: www.skysports.com/football/news/11096/11230327/january-transfer-window-which-premier-league-clubs-spent-the-mostThere is no way we can compete with the big 6. We brought in as many as anyone, kept our crown jewels, and spent a sensible amount of money. The search goes on for a top class defensive MF and striker as it does for most clubs in the Prem. The one thing that puzzles me is why Prem clubs keep buying untested foreign players, a high proportion of whom fail, and buy very few players from the lower divisions/leagues. I award 8. Not sure the article is all that kind to us in particular tbh cokey.
Plus it's not that accurate either.
It says we had x4 incoming (Jack, Staffy, Baddy and ... ?)
And that we had three outgoing (N'goy's loan, if that counts, and ... ?)
Hands up if I've been a numb nuts and apologies if I've missed these mystery players.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 1, 2018 14:10:57 GMT
The two seasons of open interference from above (with Jose and Conte) have been pretty disastrous, clearly as were those season with Scholari and another chap whose name escapes me right now. Conte clearly felt he was in charge last season and Mourinho clearly lost the plot at Chelsea when his power was taken away from him. You are rewriting history to suit your point of view no Chelsea manager has had sole control of transfers in the Abramovich era. I'm rewriting nothing. Cleary when a manager has little to no say in IDENTIFICATION of the playing staff, its a recipe for disaster. Can the manager overrule the transfer committee? Brendan Rogers wasn't able to at Liverpool. Mourinho clearly lost the trust of the owners to the extent that he was forced to work with players he didn't want and the same is true of Conte. I believe that Hughes had little to no say in the identification of players and that the last player we signed that was truly his, was Joe Allen. Paul Lambert, at this moment in time, clearly has no say in the identification of players. I'm amazed he hasn't come into the club with an idea as to at least one player he'd want to bring along with him. It's very worrying particularly when, as you rightly identify, our transfer team are the crack guru's of messrs Scholes, Coates jnr and Cartwright. If Badou is shit, heads have to role.
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Post by jezzascfc on Feb 1, 2018 14:12:56 GMT
Fullbacks arrived a window too late - better late than never, I guess.
We will really see once Badou finds his feet (yeah, I know, on the end of his legs!). They made him their priority signing, to the exclusion of a striker it seems. If he drives us forward from midfield like a new Nzonzi, and clicks with countryman Diouf ahead of him, everything in the Stoke garden will look far rosier.
A 6 from me as January is never easy, unless you can throw 50 million fees around. A decent loan striker would have pushed that to an 8.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 14:16:39 GMT
I think the club did well in what is a notoriously difficult time to do transfers, when clubs that are competing for Europe, a cup, promotion, or fighting against relegation are not going to let their best players go. It is no use saying we should have gone and bought a defensive MF or a striker if the cupboard is bare. I am not envious of any of our peer club acquisitions and think they have bought/loaned for the sake of it, freshen their squad, or to wake up their present players, not because of good value. They have taken punts on dubious players which might come off but equally might simply disrupt their squad. There is no way we can compete with the big clubs; we have seen ManC spike one of our potential deal and I for one am relieved the 'Ndiaye signing went through and was not stopped by some Arsenal fan in the authorities preventing a work permit. I didn't see many shouts to bring Joselu back, and as usual there were the false rumours in the social media that a big club were going to buy N'Zonzi. This analysis puts us in a good light: www.skysports.com/football/news/11096/11230327/january-transfer-window-which-premier-league-clubs-spent-the-mostThere is no way we can compete with the big 6. We brought in as many as anyone, kept our crown jewels, and spent a sensible amount of money. The search goes on for a top class defensive MF and striker as it does for most clubs in the Prem. The one thing that puzzles me is why Prem clubs keep buying untested foreign players, a high proportion of whom fail, and buy very few players from the lower divisions/leagues. I award 8. Not sure the article is all that kind to us in particular tbh cokey.
Plus it's not that accurate either.
It says we had x4 incoming (Jack, Staffy, Baddy and ... ?)
And that we had three outgoing (N'goy's loan, if that counts, and ... ?)
Hands up if I've been a numb nuts and apologies if I've missed these mystery players. I think these guys will take their info from the Premier League site, which seems to include development players aged 18+ The list can be found here (so I'd imagine includes Niakate on the ins, and Tymon and Souttar on the outs. Not sure what happened to Dunwoody though ) EDIT: Perhaps it's not players aged 18+, as I've just noticed that they've not included Verlinden's loan to St Pauli? Not sure who they choose to include in the list then.
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Post by realstokebloke on Feb 1, 2018 14:22:16 GMT
Not sure the article is all that kind to us in particular tbh cokey.
Plus it's not that accurate either.
It says we had x4 incoming (Jack, Staffy, Baddy and ... ?)
And that we had three outgoing (N'goy's loan, if that counts, and ... ?)
Hands up if I've been a numb nuts and apologies if I've missed these mystery players. I think these guys will take their info from the Premier League site, which seems to include development players aged 18+ The list can be found here (so I'd imagine includes Niakate on the ins, and Tymon and Souttar on the outs. Not sure what happened to Dunwoody though ) " Ah ..."
Cheers Emids.
< spot the numb nut.
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Post by nott1 on Feb 1, 2018 14:25:47 GMT
Where's that Nixon fella today, still hiding?
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Post by alster on Feb 1, 2018 14:26:54 GMT
You are rewriting history to suit your point of view no Chelsea manager has had sole control of transfers in the Abramovich era. I'm rewriting nothing. Cleary when a manager has little to no say in IDENTIFICATION of the playing staff, its a recipe for disaster. Can the manager overrule the transfer committee? Brendan Rogers wasn't able to at Liverpool. Mourinho clearly lost the trust of the owners to the extent that he was forced to work with players he didn't want and the same is true of Conte. I believe that Hughes had little to no say in the identification of players and that the last player we signed that was truly his, was Joe Allen. Paul Lambert, at this moment in time, clearly has no say in the identification of players. I'm amazed he hasn't come into the club with an idea as to at least one player he'd want to bring along with him. It's very worrying particularly when, as you rightly identify, our transfer team are the crack guru's of messrs Scholes, Coates jnr and Cartwright. If Badou is shit, heads have to role. I don't know how to be any clearer no Chelsea manager in the Abramovich era has had sole control of transfers yet they are undoubtedly the clubs most successful years in their history. They have changed manager on numerous occasions pretty much seamlessly including Di Matteo winning the Champions League and Rafa the Europa League plus numerous other league titles and domestic cups. The manager/head coach is not allowed to dominate the club to an extent they become inexpendable it's a perfectly sensible way of running a football club and has been commonplace on the continent for decades. What I do find irrational is when supporters become so engrossed and unswerving in their support of a manager/coach with little or no reason other than the fact that he's been appointed by their club. I had no majorly negative feelings about Lambert's appointment and he's got off to a decent start even if the game last night was a horror show but listening to praise and grumble after the game you could have thought he was the second coming of christ how some fans have so utterly bought into his magnificence, bewildering. Only in English football surely.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 1, 2018 14:45:11 GMT
Needed surgery got a aspirin. 4. Major surgery doesn't happen in Jan. Anyway I'd give it a 7, we needed full backs, we got 2, we needed a midfielder, we got one, it would have been nice to get a winger or a striker in but I think we've got enough to get us over the line and then start thinking about an overhaul. Too many people have their blinkers on and expecting too much, we were never going to go out and sign 5 or so players, it just doesn't happen.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 1, 2018 14:45:26 GMT
I'm rewriting nothing. Cleary when a manager has little to no say in IDENTIFICATION of the playing staff, its a recipe for disaster. Can the manager overrule the transfer committee? Brendan Rogers wasn't able to at Liverpool. Mourinho clearly lost the trust of the owners to the extent that he was forced to work with players he didn't want and the same is true of Conte. I believe that Hughes had little to no say in the identification of players and that the last player we signed that was truly his, was Joe Allen. Paul Lambert, at this moment in time, clearly has no say in the identification of players. I'm amazed he hasn't come into the club with an idea as to at least one player he'd want to bring along with him. It's very worrying particularly when, as you rightly identify, our transfer team are the crack guru's of messrs Scholes, Coates jnr and Cartwright. If Badou is shit, heads have to role. I don't know how to be any clearer no Chelsea manager in the Abramovich era has had sole control of transfers yet they are undoubtedly the clubs most successful years in their history. They have changed manager on numerous occasions pretty much seamlessly including Di Matteo winning the Champions League and Rafa the Europa League plus numerous other league titles and domestic cups. The manager/head coach is not allowed to dominate the club to an extent they become inexpendable it's a perfectly sensible way of running a football club and has been commonplace on the continent for decades. What I do find irrational is when supporters become so engrossed and unswerving in their support of a manager/coach with little or no reason other than the fact that he's been appointed by their club. I had no majorly negative feelings about Lambert's appointment and he's got off to a decent start even if the game last night was a horror show but listening to praise and grumble after the game you could have thought he was the second coming of christ how some fans have so utterly bought into his magnificence, bewildering. Only in English football surely. It isn't a case of being able to dominate proceedings is it? It is a case of having a voice. Chelsea managers clearly have a voice early in their tenure then seemingly get cast aside. Conte clearly has no say at all in the identification and signing of players and look what has happened to them. I'm amazed that you cut so little slack to the team and manager for their playing style yet are quite happy to let the real culprits for what we are seeing on the pitch escape scott free. We are shit because our players are shit. We play shit football because the players aren't capable of playing good football. We are in a situation, I believe, where the manager little to no say in identifying the players that are coming into the club. A manager can't coach a rag bag bunch to play good football if he isn't given the players or type of player he would want at his disposal. Conte hasn't become a bad coach/manager overnight, just like Mourinho didn't. The same is also true of Mark Hughes who has proven he is capable of attracting and signing decent players and of getting them to play decent football. In the first 2 and half years of Hughes tenure, Hughes and Bowen would regularly be seen at games both at home and abroad watching players and teams. In the final 18 months of his tenure, he turned up at the training ground in the morning and went home afterwards. Why was that? Why would you stop watching games? Was it because it was pointless because he had little to no say in the identification of players? Is it any real surprise that the last football he was seen at was as a TV pundit during the Euro's at which point he returned to work and promptly orchestrated the signing of Joe Allen who he'd spoken to during the summer as he was watching the said games? We have a lot of issues in the current team/squad. I don't believe those issues are all of the previous managers making and I don't believe Paul Lambert had any say at all in identifying the 3 players we've signed yet if they are crap and our fortunes continue on a downward trajectory, he will be the fall guy.
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Post by alster on Feb 1, 2018 15:11:15 GMT
I don't believe they have become bad coaches overnight anymore than I think the system that you have illogically imagined to have been imposed on newly successful managers to have become flawed either. When a coach wins a title or silverware it feeds his ego and he believes he should be allowed more of his own way, when they don't get that at Chelsea you see the tantrums develop. I don't believe for a minute that Conte isn't consulted or given an input on which players and positions to target in the transfer market. His gibbing has started because he isn't getting all his own way which he shouldn't. You'll see they have learned something from their mistakes in selling Lukaku, De Bruyne and Matic twice that they don't want to allow one transient individuals opinion to rule. Hence Dortmund lost Aubameyang, Arsenal lost Giroud but Chelsea retained Batshuayi despite the current coach obviously not rating him at all because the consensus is he could still become an important player under a different coach. Which I think its fairly clear to see will not be in the too far distant future. Conte will go and another coach will come in and win things with a squad assembled without him having a dominant input.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 15:21:45 GMT
Needed surgery got a aspirin. 4. Major surgery doesn't happen in Jan. Anyway I'd give it a 7, we needed full backs, we got 2, we needed a midfielder, we got one, it would have been nice to get a winger or a striker in but I think we've got enough to get us over the line and then start thinking about an overhaul. Too many people have their blinkers on and expecting too much, we were never going to go out and sign 5 or so players, it just doesn't happen. It does if you're in ICU clinging to the last throws of life. All the second opinions are in and we need CPR just to survive 🤕🚑
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Post by alster on Feb 1, 2018 15:25:07 GMT
I don't know how to be any clearer no Chelsea manager in the Abramovich era has had sole control of transfers yet they are undoubtedly the clubs most successful years in their history. They have changed manager on numerous occasions pretty much seamlessly including Di Matteo winning the Champions League and Rafa the Europa League plus numerous other league titles and domestic cups. The manager/head coach is not allowed to dominate the club to an extent they become inexpendable it's a perfectly sensible way of running a football club and has been commonplace on the continent for decades. What I do find irrational is when supporters become so engrossed and unswerving in their support of a manager/coach with little or no reason other than the fact that he's been appointed by their club. I had no majorly negative feelings about Lambert's appointment and he's got off to a decent start even if the game last night was a horror show but listening to praise and grumble after the game you could have thought he was the second coming of christ how some fans have so utterly bought into his magnificence, bewildering. Only in English football surely. It isn't a case of being able to dominate proceedings is it? It is a case of having a voice. Chelsea managers clearly have a voice early in their tenure then seemingly get cast aside. Conte clearly has no say at all in the identification and signing of players and look what has happened to them. I'm amazed that you cut so little slack to the team and manager for their playing style yet are quite happy to let the real culprits for what we are seeing on the pitch escape scott free. We are shit because our players are shit. We play shit football because the players aren't capable of playing good football. We are in a situation, I believe, where the manager little to no say in identifying the players that are coming into the club. A manager can't coach a rag bag bunch to play good football if he isn't given the players or type of player he would want at his disposal. Conte hasn't become a bad coach/manager overnight, just like Mourinho didn't. The same is also true of Mark Hughes who has proven he is capable of attracting and signing decent players and of getting them to play decent football. In the first 2 and half years of Hughes tenure, Hughes and Bowen would regularly be seen at games both at home and abroad watching players and teams. In the final 18 months of his tenure, he turned up at the training ground in the morning and went home afterwards. Why was that? Why would you stop watching games? Was it because it was pointless because he had little to no say in the identification of players? Is it any real surprise that the last football he was seen at was as a TV pundit during the Euro's at which point he returned to work and promptly orchestrated the signing of Joe Allen who he'd spoken to during the summer as he was watching the said games? We have a lot of issues in the current team/squad. I don't believe those issues are all of the previous managers making and I don't believe Paul Lambert had any say at all in identifying the 3 players we've signed yet if they are crap and our fortunes continue on a downward trajectory, he will be the fall guy. By the way I have seen what happened to them they had one of the best targetmen in the world massively suited to the English game and Conte in his arrogance destroyed the relationship between the player and the club and the coach and despite signing a very good player in Morata they are missing that something that Costa bought to the party and have been scrambling around for the entire of January trying to replace it. Again they've signed a very good player in Giroud who will no doubt score goals if he gets playing time but I still think they are short of an ingredient that Costa offered an ingredient that probably made Conte feel he was difficult to handle and more trouble than he was worth. A story of one man cutting off his nose to spite his face to impose his authority and his importance and why a more objective less personal approach to recruitment and retention is more sensible.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 15:35:14 GMT
3 1/2
We needed a RB, we got, We needed at very least two defensive midfielders and by the looks of it didn't get any, got a box to box midfielder. We needed a left winger as can't rely on Choupo being consistent which we didn't get. We needed a quick finisher which we didn't get.
The LB we didn't need just a change in formation to accommodate the one we had.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 1, 2018 17:59:52 GMT
Major surgery doesn't happen in Jan. Anyway I'd give it a 7, we needed full backs, we got 2, we needed a midfielder, we got one, it would have been nice to get a winger or a striker in but I think we've got enough to get us over the line and then start thinking about an overhaul. Too many people have their blinkers on and expecting too much, we were never going to go out and sign 5 or so players, it just doesn't happen. It does if you're in ICU clinging to the last throws of life. All the second opinions are in and we need CPR just to survive 🤕🚑 Which other teams that are struggling like us have had major surgery?
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Post by Theninjabadger on Feb 1, 2018 18:14:21 GMT
We’ve scored the joint most out of the bottom 8 without a prolific goal scorer. The main priority this window was to address the amount of goals conceded, 2 full backs and a new midfielder were top of the list. So a 8 from me
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 18:18:50 GMT
Full backs tick Attacking midfielder tick Defensive midfielder X Striker X Half a job Bob transfer window 5/10 Good but by no means good enough 😐 It's going to be a long, fretful campaign 😨 Is Badou an attacking midfielder? I was under that impression reading things on here. However, there is no limit to my ignorance on these matters 😂
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 18:20:04 GMT
Is Badou an attacking midfielder? I think the point is that he isn't an out and out defensive one tbh.
You know, a bit like we desperately need.My thinking too but I know little about him
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 18:49:33 GMT
It does if you're in ICU clinging to the last throws of life. All the second opinions are in and we need CPR just to survive 🤕🚑 Which other teams that are struggling like us have had major surgery? I don't care about other teams I care about mine.
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Post by jezzascfc on Feb 1, 2018 18:58:18 GMT
I don't know how to be any clearer no Chelsea manager in the Abramovich era has had sole control of transfers yet they are undoubtedly the clubs most successful years in their history. They have changed manager on numerous occasions pretty much seamlessly including Di Matteo winning the Champions League and Rafa the Europa League plus numerous other league titles and domestic cups. The manager/head coach is not allowed to dominate the club to an extent they become inexpendable it's a perfectly sensible way of running a football club and has been commonplace on the continent for decades. What I do find irrational is when supporters become so engrossed and unswerving in their support of a manager/coach with little or no reason other than the fact that he's been appointed by their club. I had no majorly negative feelings about Lambert's appointment and he's got off to a decent start even if the game last night was a horror show but listening to praise and grumble after the game you could have thought he was the second coming of christ how some fans have so utterly bought into his magnificence, bewildering. Only in English football surely. It isn't a case of being able to dominate proceedings is it? It is a case of having a voice. Chelsea managers clearly have a voice early in their tenure then seemingly get cast aside. Conte clearly has no say at all in the identification and signing of players and look what has happened to them. I'm amazed that you cut so little slack to the team and manager for their playing style yet are quite happy to let the real culprits for what we are seeing on the pitch escape scott free. We are shit because our players are shit. We play shit football because the players aren't capable of playing good football. We are in a situation, I believe, where the manager little to no say in identifying the players that are coming into the club. A manager can't coach a rag bag bunch to play good football if he isn't given the players or type of player he would want at his disposal. Conte hasn't become a bad coach/manager overnight, just like Mourinho didn't. The same is also true of Mark Hughes who has proven he is capable of attracting and signing decent players and of getting them to play decent football. In the first 2 and half years of Hughes tenure, Hughes and Bowen would regularly be seen at games both at home and abroad watching players and teams. In the final 18 months of his tenure, he turned up at the training ground in the morning and went home afterwards. Why was that? Why would you stop watching games? Was it because it was pointless because he had little to no say in the identification of players? Is it any real surprise that the last football he was seen at was as a TV pundit during the Euro's at which point he returned to work and promptly orchestrated the signing of Joe Allen who he'd spoken to during the summer as he was watching the said games? We have a lot of issues in the current team/squad. I don't believe those issues are all of the previous managers making and I don't believe Paul Lambert had any say at all in identifying the 3 players we've signed yet if they are crap and our fortunes continue on a downward trajectory, he will be the fall guy. Well put, Dave. The biggest change that needs to take place at Stoke in the summer is getting rid of Teflon Tony and the ex-Leek Town reserve keeper. How they have managed to survive the three most catastrophic signings in the 155 year history of our club really does beggar belief.
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Post by lordb on Feb 1, 2018 19:02:01 GMT
Is Badou an attacking midfielder? I think the point is that he isn't an out and out defensive one tbh.
You know, a bit like we desperately need.I thought we desperately needed a midfielder with energy who likes a tackle. Which is what we have bought. I don't understand the obsession with midfielders who don't move.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 1, 2018 19:05:43 GMT
Which other teams that are struggling like us have had major surgery? I don't care about other teams I care about mine. Which is fair enough, but major surgery is never going to happen in Jan, why you thought it would is beyond me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 19:17:22 GMT
I don't care about other teams I care about mine. Which is fair enough, but major surgery is never going to happen in Jan, why you thought it would is beyond me. Just a saying, I feel we are two players short the forwards being the weakest area.
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Post by Kjones9 on Feb 1, 2018 19:20:25 GMT
Some of the scoring on here is ridiculous.
So I'll go for 12.75.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 1, 2018 19:21:26 GMT
Which is fair enough, but major surgery is never going to happen in Jan, why you thought it would is beyond me. Just a saying, I feel we are two players short the forwards being the weakest area. I honestly don't think we're in that much trouble going forwards, its more the balance for me, I think we have enough goals in those we already have to be able to stay up, I just think we need to have a look at playing Shaq behind a striker regularly. Yesterday was awful but I think it will improve once they get used to a new manager and system.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 1, 2018 19:31:09 GMT
It isn't a case of being able to dominate proceedings is it? It is a case of having a voice. Chelsea managers clearly have a voice early in their tenure then seemingly get cast aside. Conte clearly has no say at all in the identification and signing of players and look what has happened to them. I'm amazed that you cut so little slack to the team and manager for their playing style yet are quite happy to let the real culprits for what we are seeing on the pitch escape scott free. We are shit because our players are shit. We play shit football because the players aren't capable of playing good football. We are in a situation, I believe, where the manager little to no say in identifying the players that are coming into the club. A manager can't coach a rag bag bunch to play good football if he isn't given the players or type of player he would want at his disposal. Conte hasn't become a bad coach/manager overnight, just like Mourinho didn't. The same is also true of Mark Hughes who has proven he is capable of attracting and signing decent players and of getting them to play decent football. In the first 2 and half years of Hughes tenure, Hughes and Bowen would regularly be seen at games both at home and abroad watching players and teams. In the final 18 months of his tenure, he turned up at the training ground in the morning and went home afterwards. Why was that? Why would you stop watching games? Was it because it was pointless because he had little to no say in the identification of players? Is it any real surprise that the last football he was seen at was as a TV pundit during the Euro's at which point he returned to work and promptly orchestrated the signing of Joe Allen who he'd spoken to during the summer as he was watching the said games? We have a lot of issues in the current team/squad. I don't believe those issues are all of the previous managers making and I don't believe Paul Lambert had any say at all in identifying the 3 players we've signed yet if they are crap and our fortunes continue on a downward trajectory, he will be the fall guy. Well put, Dave. The biggest change that needs to take place at Stoke in the summer is getting rid of Teflon Tony and the ex-Leek Town reserve keeper. How they have managed to survive the three most catastrophic signings in the 155 year history of our club really does beggar belief. All spot on interesting point about no stake in transfers leading to disengagement .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 19:31:53 GMT
Just a saying, I feel we are two players short the forwards being the weakest area. I honestly don't think we're in that much trouble going forwards, its more the balance for me, I think we have enough goals in those we already have to be able to stay up, I just think we need to have a look at playing Shaq behind a striker regularly. Yesterday was awful but I think it will improve once they get used to a new manager and system. I think we are Crouch as much as I love him has not got more than a half in him. Diouf would need 10 sitters per game to bag one. Saido is a busted flush and I struggle to see him scoring again ! Choupo flaters to deceive. Dito for Shaq. Ramadan has potential.
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Post by mrcoke on Feb 1, 2018 19:41:41 GMT
I think the club did well in what is a notoriously difficult time to do transfers, when clubs that are competing for Europe, a cup, promotion, or fighting against relegation are not going to let their best players go. It is no use saying we should have gone and bought a defensive MF or a striker if the cupboard is bare. I am not envious of any of our peer club acquisitions and think they have bought/loaned for the sake of it, freshen their squad, or to wake up their present players, not because of good value. They have taken punts on dubious players which might come off but equally might simply disrupt their squad. There is no way we can compete with the big clubs; we have seen ManC spike one of our potential deal and I for one am relieved the 'Ndiaye signing went through and was not stopped by some Arsenal fan in the authorities preventing a work permit. I didn't see many shouts to bring Joselu back, and as usual there were the false rumours in the social media that a big club were going to buy N'Zonzi. This analysis puts us in a good light: www.skysports.com/football/news/11096/11230327/january-transfer-window-which-premier-league-clubs-spent-the-mostThere is no way we can compete with the big 6. We brought in as many as anyone, kept our crown jewels, and spent a sensible amount of money. The search goes on for a top class defensive MF and striker as it does for most clubs in the Prem. The one thing that puzzles me is why Prem clubs keep buying untested foreign players, a high proportion of whom fail, and buy very few players from the lower divisions/leagues. I award 8. Not sure the article is all that kind to us in particular tbh cokey.Plus it's not that accurate either.It says we had x4 incoming (Jack, Staffy, Baddy and ... ?) Niakate www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/5295596/stoke-sign-moussa-niakate-paris-fc/And that we had three outgoing (N'goy's loan, if that counts, and ... ?) Tymon, Dunwoody, Souttar, ThibaudHands up if I've been a numb nuts and apologies if I've missed these mystery players. Do keep up
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Post by ashleyscfc on Feb 1, 2018 19:46:39 GMT
4 we’ve done no more than the bare minimum. Taking a massive risk. No striker, wing cover or creative player.
No replacement for jack when he goes in the summer
We’ve gone backwards.
Again
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