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Post by banksisgod on Jan 14, 2018 0:01:23 GMT
Keane has pretty much been a pussycat since being involved with the Irish set-up, except in his dealings with the press, that is. The players like him, and look up to him, but it's O'Neill's team, and he's in charge. It's hard to fathom, but O'Neill wears the trousers in that relationship, and there has never been any suggestion of Keane overstepping the mark at any point.
I really think this could work, with O'Neill's well-known motivational/man-management skills making the players believe that they are world-beaters, and Keane keeping them up to the task through a mixture of respect and fear.
One really good thing is that, whoever it is that takes over, will likely have a full squad to choose from for the first time in ages, along with Bauer, who I can't wait to see in action.
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Post by Gods on Jan 14, 2018 0:02:26 GMT
I think Roy Keane would be excellent. Anyone whose favourite riposte is the anatomically peculiar “Stick it up your bollocks” is exactly what we need and fine by me
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Post by brinsleymaclagan on Jan 14, 2018 0:03:35 GMT
Gone up in your estimation? You must be very easily impressed! A thug kicks another player up in the air and goes up in your estimation? Jesus Christ - stop the bus, I want to get off!
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Post by Gods on Jan 14, 2018 0:05:17 GMT
Keane has pretty much been a pussycat since being involved with the Irish set-up, except in his dealings with the press, that is. The players like him, and look up to him, but it's O'Neill's team, and he's in charge. It's hard to fathom, but O'Neill wears the trousers in that relationship, and there has never been any suggestion of Keane overstepping the mark at any point. I really think this could work, with O'Neill's well-known motivational/man-management skills making the players believe that they are world-beaters, and Keane keeping them up to the task through a mixture of respect and fear. One really good thing is that, whoever it is that takes over, will likely have a full squad to choose from for the first time in ages, along with Bauer, who I can't wait to see in action. Yep, it's far more likely to succeed than that bearded dope we've been courting out in Catalonia. We need a team committed to this cause HEART AND SOUL!
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Post by pistol on Jan 14, 2018 0:05:57 GMT
Gone up in your estimation? You must be very easily impressed! A thug kicks another player up in the air and goes up in your estimation? Jesus Christ - stop the bus, I want to get off! Ok bye
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Post by marcofstoke on Jan 14, 2018 0:09:17 GMT
I cannot believe what I'm reading! Have you all forgotten that this poor excuse for a human being deliberately ended a fellow professionals career? Keane INJURED HIMSELF in the act of fouling Alf Inge Harland, but then decided to take revenge on Haaland with a shameful assault on the player (it's on YouTube) It seems football really has plumbed the depths if this bullying thug is welcomed to Stoke, and if he is I for Good grief that was SEVENTEEN years ago, I'm sure he's a pussycat compared to those days but he'll still tell it how it is and in case you haven't noticed thats what some of our players have been lacking!
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Post by cdlstoke on Jan 14, 2018 0:18:42 GMT
Most of are players want man up or get out. People like Keane what’s needed sort this shit out. If players not happy tuff shit. Bloody hell they’d never of lasted in the seventies. Footballers today utter arseholes.😡
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Post by blackpoolred on Jan 14, 2018 0:19:09 GMT
What’s there to be scared of ? *GULP* Looks a bit like my girlfriend - and she is a real pussycat
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Post by brinsleymaclagan on Jan 14, 2018 0:20:46 GMT
I cannot believe what I'm reading! Have you all forgotten that this poor excuse for a human being deliberately ended a fellow professionals career? Keane INJURED HIMSELF in the act of fouling Alf Inge Harland, but then decided to take revenge on Haaland with a shameful assault on the player (it's on YouTube) It seems football really has plumbed the depths if this bullying thug is welcomed to Stoke, and if he is I for Good grief that was SEVENTEEN years ago, I'm sure he's a pussycat compared to those days but he'll still tell it how it is and in case you haven't noticed thats what some of our players have been lacking! If the thug had shown any remorse in those seventeen years, perhaps he would deserve some respect, but all he's done is bragged about it. In other news, when has he ever been successful in a club managerial role? Ipswich, Sunderland?
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Post by brinsleymaclagan on Jan 14, 2018 0:22:29 GMT
What’s there to be scared of ? *GULP* Do not let this man within 100 miles of the Bet365
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Post by marcofstoke on Jan 14, 2018 0:28:00 GMT
Good grief that was SEVENTEEN years ago, I'm sure he's a pussycat compared to those days but he'll still tell it how it is and in case you haven't noticed thats what some of our players have been lacking! If the thug had shown any remorse in those seventeen years, perhaps he would deserve some respect, but all he's done is bragged about it. In other news, when has he ever been successful in a club managerial role? Ipswich, Sunderland? Were you on another planet when Keane took over as manager of a Sunderland side who were in the relegation zone of the Championship? they stormed up the table under his leadership and won the title!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 0:30:58 GMT
Good grief that was SEVENTEEN years ago, I'm sure he's a pussycat compared to those days but he'll still tell it how it is and in case you haven't noticed thats what some of our players have been lacking! If the thug had shown any remorse in those seventeen years, perhaps he would deserve some respect, but all he's done is bragged about it. In other news, when has he ever been successful in a club managerial role? Ipswich, Sunderland? He won the Championship with Sunderland mate, will you stop this personal agenda against Keane? Did we expect Bowen to win leagues and have a successful managerial career to become assistant to Hughes? Keane nailed Haaland, because Keane had a near career ending injury while Haaland peered over him shouting and spitting that Keane was faking it. I suppose you being an absolute saint would just accept that and not say anything else of it? You'd hold no contempt to that man? No excuse for ending his career, but he's just a human - people make mistakes. The guy has 5 kids, do you think he goes home and nails them and shouts and balls at em? Give your head a wobble. Keane wont back down to a fight, and we've got one hell of a fight on our hands here.
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Post by Stokyo on Jan 14, 2018 1:04:00 GMT
The only positive I have been clinging onto from this Flores debarcle is thinking about some of those lazy millionaires who wear our red and whites faces when they heard the Flores deal was off and there was a possibility Roy Keane would be coming.
Bet they are wetting their beds the lazy excuses.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 1:11:30 GMT
If the thug had shown any remorse in those seventeen years, perhaps he would deserve some respect, but all he's done is bragged about it. In other news, when has he ever been successful in a club managerial role? Ipswich, Sunderland? He won the Championship with Sunderland mate, will you stop this personal agenda against Keane? Did we expect Bowen to win leagues and have a successful managerial career to become assistant to Hughes? Keane nailed Haaland, because Keane had a near career ending injury while Haaland peered over him shouting and spitting that Keane was faking it. I suppose you being an absolute saint would just accept that and not say anything else of it? You'd hold no contempt to that man? No excuse for ending his career, but he's just a human - people make mistakes. The guy has 5 kids, do you think he goes home and nails them and shouts and balls at em? Give your head a wobble. Keane wont back down to a fight, and we've got one hell of a fight on our hands here. It wasn’t even the knee Keane kicked out at that got injured. It was the landing that did it. The foul was petulant, and Keane admitted as much, but there’s no way on Earth he knew it’d end Haaland’s career. Given the history of a lot of footballers / coaches it’s odd that this one incident is something anyone could draw the line at, especially for a potential assistant manager. I’m sure Hughes’ elbows or Pulis’ tough tackling midfielder days weren’t being brought up when they were was brought in as manager.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 1:13:25 GMT
He won the Championship with Sunderland mate, will you stop this personal agenda against Keane? Did we expect Bowen to win leagues and have a successful managerial career to become assistant to Hughes? Keane nailed Haaland, because Keane had a near career ending injury while Haaland peered over him shouting and spitting that Keane was faking it. I suppose you being an absolute saint would just accept that and not say anything else of it? You'd hold no contempt to that man? No excuse for ending his career, but he's just a human - people make mistakes. The guy has 5 kids, do you think he goes home and nails them and shouts and balls at em? Give your head a wobble. Keane wont back down to a fight, and we've got one hell of a fight on our hands here. It wasn’t even the knee Keane kicked out at that got injured. It was the landing that did it. The foul was petulant, and Keane admitted as much, but there’s no way on Earth he knew it’d end Haaland’s career. Given the history of a lot of footballers / coaches it’s odd that this one incident is something anyone could draw the line at, especially for a potential assistant manager. I’m sure Hughes’ elbows or Pulis’ tough tackling midfielder days weren’t being brought up when they were was brought in as manager. Yeah, didn't Kammy get done for GBH for elbowing someone and breaking their nose? Now he's loveable funny Kammy wouldn't hurt a fly!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 1:21:35 GMT
It wasn’t even the knee Keane kicked out at that got injured. It was the landing that did it. The foul was petulant, and Keane admitted as much, but there’s no way on Earth he knew it’d end Haaland’s career. Given the history of a lot of footballers / coaches it’s odd that this one incident is something anyone could draw the line at, especially for a potential assistant manager. I’m sure Hughes’ elbows or Pulis’ tough tackling midfielder days weren’t being brought up when they were was brought in as manager. Yeah, didn't Kammy get done for GBH for elbowing someone and breaking their nose? Now he's loveable funny Kammy wouldn't hurt a fly! Remember seeing a clip of Leeds once and their midfield was Kamara, Vinnie Jones and David Batty. I bet that was an horrific afternoon for the opposition midfield.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Jan 14, 2018 1:25:09 GMT
I miss the days when it seemed the whole world was against us, and I think Keane might just be the kind of man we need to reignite that mentality. He’s not well liked by the media, he’ll piss of just about every opposition player, manager and fan base and we see a response from the players and get ourselves back on track, I think the crowd will get right behind him. Anything that helps kick the club back into life and turn the BET365 back into a hateful pit of intimidation sounds like a fucking top idea to me. The man has a desire to win and is edgy as fuck along with it.
I’m starting to warm to the idea.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 1:29:20 GMT
I miss the days when it seemed the whole world was against us, and I think Keane might just be the kind of man we need to reignite that mentality. He’s not well liked by the media, he’ll piss of just about every opposition player, manager and fan base and we see a response from the players and get ourselves back on track, I think the crowd will get right behind him. Anything that helps kick the club back into life and turn the BET365 back into a hateful pit of intimidation sounds like a fucking top idea to me. The man has a desire to win and is edgy as fuck along with it. I’m starting to warm to the idea. It’s an old trick, farming the ‘whole world is against us’ mentality, but as you say it can be brilliant when it works.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Jan 14, 2018 1:29:41 GMT
Gone up in your estimation? You must be very easily impressed! A thug kicks another player up in the air and goes up in your estimation? Jesus Christ - stop the bus, I want to get off! Absolute bollocks. If you replace Keane in that story with Wilko, it would put a smile on the face of almost every Stoke fan I’ve ever met. When the fuck did we start becoming Arsenal? Fuck that nonsense, we need some bite back in the team.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 14, 2018 1:39:36 GMT
Gone up in your estimation? You must be very easily impressed! A thug kicks another player up in the air and goes up in your estimation? Jesus Christ - stop the bus, I want to get off! Absolute bollocks. If you replace Keane in that story with Wilko, it would put a smile on the face of almost every Stoke fan I’ve ever met. When the fuck did we start becoming Arsenal? Fuck that nonsense, we need some bite back in the team. We need solidity at the back creativity in the middle and goals up front. Kicking shit out of people isn't going to do us any good.
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Post by bhp on Jan 14, 2018 1:41:17 GMT
After seeing training Saturday morning/afternoon Keane wouldn't have to do much to have an impact.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Jan 14, 2018 1:48:40 GMT
Absolute bollocks. If you replace Keane in that story with Wilko, it would put a smile on the face of almost every Stoke fan I’ve ever met. When the fuck did we start becoming Arsenal? Fuck that nonsense, we need some bite back in the team. We need solidity at the back creativity in the middle and goals up front. Kicking shit out of people isn't going to do us any good. Oh I agree, we need all of those things. But having a bit of bite in the side wouldn’t go amiss either. There was a time not so long ago when opposition teams feared coming to Stoke and knew they would have to earn the right for a result. Not anymore. We’ve ecome soft, and we’re absolute pushovers.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 2:36:08 GMT
I personally think MON / Keane are a better short term option than QSF.
I hope this is a 'keep us up' mission, with further work on a longer term option. If that sounds mercenary, then maybe it is.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 14, 2018 2:39:45 GMT
Would the FAI give him permission to come to us temporarily??
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 2:45:27 GMT
Would the FAI give him permission to come to us temporarily?? This is my worry exactly. I feel like they’d want an all or nothing deal. MON on a say two/three year contract should be a no-go IMO - but there’s nothing in it for O’Niell to sign a one year deal with us when the FIA have offered him an extension until 2020, which he’s verbally accepted a few weeks back.
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Post by scfcrmagic on Jan 14, 2018 2:49:39 GMT
Keane has pretty much been a pussycat since being involved with the Irish set-up, except in his dealings with the press, that is. The players like him, and look up to him, but it's O'Neill's team, and he's in charge. It's hard to fathom, but O'Neill wears the trousers in that relationship, and there has never been any suggestion of Keane overstepping the mark at any point. I really think this could work, with O'Neill's well-known motivational/man-management skills making the players believe that they are world-beaters, and Keane keeping them up to the task through a mixture of respect and fear. One really good thing is that, whoever it is that takes over, will likely have a full squad to choose from for the first time in ages, along with Bauer, who I can't wait to see in action. totally agree 100% ......it’s a bit good cop/ bad cop ..and some players need a rocket up their arse ..whilst others need the arm around the shoulder and a more inspiration/ motivational “you can do it “ kinda approach, Which makes MON/Keano a winning double act ...hopefully..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 2:53:59 GMT
Stoke City have offered Martin O’Neill and Roy Keane a return to Premier League management as they desperately try to persuade the high-profile pair to leave the Republic of Ireland after four years in international football.
Stoke are still trying to thrash out terms with O’Neill, who is expected to bring Roy Keane with him as his assistant if he can agree a deal to return to league management for the first time since he was sacked by Sunderland in 2013.
Although Stoke are understood to have officially offered O’Neill the chance to succeed Mark Hughes as manager, after the former Watford manager Quique Sanchez Flores decided to remain at Espanyol, it remains to be seen whether O’Neill will accept it as he already has a verbal agreement in place to extend his contract with Ireland.
Sources have also indicated to Telegraph Sport that the length of the contract may be a sticking point as O’Neill is not interested in signing a short-term deal, which would potentially leave him vulnerable to being replaced in the summer, even if he keeps Stoke in the top flight.
O’Neill had effectively decided to remain in the Ireland job on Friday as both he and Keane are excited by the challenge of building a new, younger Ireland squad during their European Nations Cup campaign, which starts later this year.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jan 14, 2018 2:55:01 GMT
I don't understand the fear aspect. Yes he was a big name player, but what is there to fear? Why are the players going to be shitting themselves? It's not like they haven't been shouted at before by managers.
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Post by TexasPotter on Jan 14, 2018 4:04:41 GMT
We need more Roy Keane like personas in this club not fucking yes men in management. He’s shown he has what Bowen could never have already an opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 4:32:39 GMT
What's made Keane get his hard man reputation? Liking the sound of his voice a bit to much, doing what a club captain was supposed to do by speaking out. He's had one bad challenge which was totally an idiotic thing to do, but he was very much protected by the Manchester United / Fergie brand.
I'd imagine big Dunc Ferguson and our very own mr Taggart would have Keane on his arse all day every day.
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