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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 16:19:29 GMT
Fuller, Beatie, Aby and Ethrington. All would walk into this side and would keep us up!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 11, 2018 16:24:05 GMT
Fuller, Beatie, Aby and Ethrington. All would walk into this side and would keep us up! So would wilko, Rory and Liam Lawrence...as would a 25 year old glen Whelan |
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Post by basingstokie on Jan 11, 2018 16:25:03 GMT
In our current position I would take the 08/09 squad. With ambition to move up the league i'd generally want the current bunch but better managed
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Post by skip on Jan 11, 2018 16:25:42 GMT
But a decade ago, Stoke was a different club, the Premier League was a different place.
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Post by senojbor on Jan 11, 2018 16:38:21 GMT
But a decade ago, Stoke was a different club, the Premier League was a different place. No it wasn't. We were tipped by everyone to go down and laughed at. Our squad was filled with players new to the premier league. We finished the season just 5 points behind Man City and it was a fantastic season. This was because had a manager who knew what he was doing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 16:39:48 GMT
Would love a Beattie type up front now
Hopefully the next manager (🤞Queue
Queque🤞) can resurrect Berahino
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Post by scfc75 on Jan 11, 2018 16:41:39 GMT
Would love a Beattie type up front now Hopefully the next manager (🤞Queue Queque🤞) can resurrect Berahino I'd love to see the new guy get him firing. |
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Post by skip on Jan 11, 2018 16:43:05 GMT
But a decade ago, Stoke was a different club, the Premier League was a different place. No it wasn't. We were tipped by everyone to go down and laughed at. Our squad was filled with players new to the premier league. We finished the season just 5 points behind Man City and it was a fantastic season. This was because had a manager who knew what he was doing.Yes he did, but so did Hughes until the New Technical Era petered out due to a number of factors - a lot of his own making admittedly - and it was time for a change. But to argue Hughes is a know-nothing manager is untrue and disingenuous. Man City's final position at the end of our first season is circumstantial and bares no relation to what we achieved with Beattie and Pulis and whoever else. edit: typo. |
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Post by milky on Jan 11, 2018 17:19:31 GMT
The squad that finished that first season is better than this one we have now in my opinion.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 11, 2018 18:34:42 GMT
Technically (bar one or two) the 2008 squad was nowhere near as good as what we have now - and overall the league is a lot stronger now, However they were well organised and played as a team. There's potential in the current squad - it needs someone to get the best out of it.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Jan 11, 2018 18:45:37 GMT
We have a better squad now. The team in our first PL season was full of heart and desire, but the players we have now are superior in just about every position. I do miss those long throws from Delap though. Also, in that first season I was expecting and relished the relegation dog fight we were in, I find no joy in it happening this season.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jan 11, 2018 19:11:35 GMT
Technically (bar one or two) the 2008 squad was nowhere near as good as what we have now - and overall the league is a lot stronger now, However they were well organised and played as a team. There's potential in the current squad - it needs someone to get the best out of it. I think our squad is stronger now, slightly. But the league stronger? I’m not sure it is. In 08-09 the league had a lot of top notch players Ronaldo firing, Rooney in prime, Torres, Rio, Scholes, Lampard, Gerrard and Fabregas all prem lengends off the top of my head. Oh and Lewis Buxton for us😂 |
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Post by stantheman on Jan 11, 2018 19:27:00 GMT
They had some backbone and team spirit. This is what we now miss the most
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Post by GoBoks on Jan 11, 2018 19:34:24 GMT
But a decade ago, Stoke was a different club, the Premier League was a different place. No it wasn't. We were tipped by everyone to go down and laughed at. Our squad was filled with players new to the premier league. We finished the season just 5 points behind Man City and it was a fantastic season. This was because had a manager who knew what he was doing. I assume the logical conclusion is that we finished above Chelsea because we had a manager who knew what he was doing? |
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Post by hchpotter on Jan 11, 2018 19:36:39 GMT
The 08/09 squad was less well remunerated but much more committed. The players knew their jobs and were much better organised. The squad was better balanced, full of fight, and played to its strengths.
In short the 08/09 squad was everything that the current crop is not.
The squad back then was excellently reinforced in January and the same needs to happen now.
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Post by superheroantonius on Jan 11, 2018 21:16:41 GMT
Comparing james beattie to berahino is like comparing kelly brook to jo brand
I dont care how funny jo brand is, kelly brook all day long
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Post by Olgrligm on Jan 11, 2018 22:09:15 GMT
Out of the current team, only Butland and possibly Pieters would get anywhere near the 2008/09 team. They were miles better.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 22:11:52 GMT
That team in our first season up would seriously walk through the one we have now. They would batter us into submission. Fuller v wimmer!!! Jesus bastard Christ!! Wilko v Ramadan  god that team would hammer 5 past this sorry lot |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jan 11, 2018 22:19:07 GMT
I'm just reading Big Mama's book, which is brilliant .
He is very complimentary about TP and said he always wanted players with character and tried to find out as much as possible about them so we had a strong group.
This isn't a TP love in or anything just thinking how much the signing of players has changed in the last 10 years .
I loved that team . I don't have the time of day for many of this lot even though they have more ability .
L
Even though he wasn't a great finisher if Berahino had a character like Mama to play with and do all the donkey work , he would be doing much better . If nothing else Mama would help him appreciate how lucky he is and to make the most of it instead of pissing his career away.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jan 11, 2018 22:26:54 GMT
Rose-tinted glasses? Beattie was only good (and he was great) for us for half a season. He looked like he'd get over 100 Premier League goals no problem, then barely got any closer, and was a way off in the end. That first few months was an example of pretty much everything going right for a striker, whereas for Berahino it's been almost the opposite.
We have better players now in most positions, but back then we had a better team. We could do with a couple of characters from that team.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 22:28:19 GMT
Our team now is unfathomably better than 08/09.
The only difference is that the 08/09 team had some tactics.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 11, 2018 22:31:37 GMT
I'm just reading Big Mama's book, which is brilliant . He is very complimentary about TP and said he always wanted players with character and tried to find out as much as possible about them so we had a strong group. This isn't a TP love in or anything just thinking how much the signing of players has changed in the last 10 years . I loved that team . I don't have the time of day for many of this lot even though they have more ability . L Even though he wasn't a great finisher if Berahino had a character like Mama to play with and do all the donkey work , he would be doing much better . If nothing else Mama would help him appreciate how lucky he is and to make the most of it instead of pissing his career away. Mama made the most of his talents through hard work and passion, comparing Berahino to him is a massive injustice to Mama, Berahino is a useless waster both on and off the pitch a disgrace to his profession, he has shown nothing here to suggest he will ever be anything but a gigantic fcuk up signing. |
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Post by Block 22 on Jan 11, 2018 22:32:47 GMT
Wilko would be nowhere near this squad. Period.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 11, 2018 22:33:51 GMT
Our team now is unfathomably better than 08/09. The only difference is that the 08/09 team had some tactics. With players that could actually do what they were paid to do unlike the useless idle twats we have now. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 22:40:13 GMT
Our team now is unfathomably better than 08/09. The only difference is that the 08/09 team had some tactics. With players that could actually do what they were paid to do unlike the useless idle twats we have now. Or players that were actually told what to do, instead of good footballers being told to sit back and hoof it to crouch like we have now... |
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 11, 2018 22:46:36 GMT
With players that could actually do what they were paid to do unlike the useless idle twats we have now. Or players that were actually told what to do, instead of good footballers being told to sit back and hoof it to crouch like we have now... Good footballers such as Fletcher, Adam, Wimmer, G Cam, Allen, Pieters , Edwards, Diouf etc.  yeh ok. |
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Post by walrus on Jan 11, 2018 22:47:50 GMT
Wilko would be nowhere near this squad. Period. Well that’s just plain untrue, isn’t it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 23:02:49 GMT
Or players that were actually told what to do, instead of good footballers being told to sit back and hoof it to crouch like we have now... Good footballers such as Fletcher, Adam, Wimmer, G Cam, Allen, Pieters , Edwards, Diouf etc. yeh ok. Yes. Put our squad now up against that 08/09 team. A combined XI I would say would be like this: Butland Edwards Shawcross Faye Pieters Delap Allen Choupo Shaqiri Etherington Fuller With subs: Sorensen Indi Zouma Whelan Beattie Ramadan Diouf Faye only ahead of Indi/Zouma on his 08/09 form, i think Indi and Zouma are better players in general. Ethers probably wouldn't work in that system but still. |
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Post by thegift on Jan 12, 2018 1:09:05 GMT
Would love a Beattie type up front now Hopefully the next manager (🤞Queue Queque🤞) can resurrect Berahino More chance of england winning a world cup |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jan 12, 2018 1:16:09 GMT
One thing's for sure....Ryan was a whole lot better than he is today!!!
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god that team would hammer 5 past this sorry lot
yeh ok.
