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Bilic
Jan 8, 2018 15:28:47 GMT
Post by baystokie on Jan 8, 2018 15:28:47 GMT
What would you consider and 'imaginative and far-sighted appointment'? How would you then persuade him to take the job? What if the then turned you down. You can be imaginative as much as you like but in the end you can only appoint from among those willing to come. Yes and bilic wouldn't be anywhere near the top of that list either. I'd rather give it potter Allardyce's win ratio at WHU was 37.6% Bilic's win ratio at WHU was 37.8% Statistics, statistics and damn lies eh.............?
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jan 8, 2018 15:30:20 GMT
Read it and weep... www.theguardian.com/football/2017/nov/06/west-ham-sack-slaven-bilic-comment-david-moyesIntensity in training dipped, Payet returned to Marseille and speculation over Bilic’s future mounted. Scrappy wins kept saving him but the football was lethargic and disorganised. Opponents loved playing against West Ham His football lacked identity and style and he was too reliant on Manuel Lanzini’s invention. There was too much focus on motivation and not enough on tactics. A player who left in the summer was perplexed by Bilic’s speeches about playing with passion. Where, he wondered, was the level of detail he had experienced at his former club? Another defensive player was baffled by the way he was left exposed by the team’s shape out of possession. Defenders regressed and there is a belief within the squad that they are unfit. There have been too many soft tissue injuries and Bilic was damned by statistics showing that West Ham have covered the least distance and made the fewest sprints in the Premier League this season There was not enough accountability. Allardyce would make sure mistakes would not be repeated by hammering the culprit in front of the rest of the dressing room but Bilic was afraid of confrontation You could literally swap West Ham for Stoke, and Bilic for Hughes in those paragraphs. Scary
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Bilic
Jan 8, 2018 15:31:30 GMT
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Post by estp1863 on Jan 8, 2018 15:31:30 GMT
Yes and bilic wouldn't be anywhere near the top of that list either. I'd rather give it potter Allardyce's win ratio at WHU was 37.6% Bilic's win ratio at WHU was 37.8% Statistics, statistics and damn lies eh.............? Watch the video at the bottom labelled "mirror podcast reacts to Bilic's sacking" and weep. If these odds are accurate we are swapping Mark Hughes with,er, Mark Hughes www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/slaven-bilic-sacked-west-ham-11475250
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Bilic
Jan 8, 2018 15:32:42 GMT
Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 8, 2018 15:32:42 GMT
Nahhhhh, not having this one. None of the clues point to Bilic and I don't think he'd be a Coates choice.
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Post by AstroTom on Jan 8, 2018 15:39:54 GMT
When West Ham were at Upton Pk I thought Billic did a decent job,however since they moved to the London Stadium his record was poor.Can’t make my mind up whether he’d be a decent appointment or not🤔Good contacts in the game though after his time with Croatia Yeah because Croatia is a real hotbed of international talent.......... Davor Suker Luke Modric Ivan Rakitic Mario Mandzukic Yeah, real poor those guys.
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Bilic
Jan 8, 2018 15:41:41 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 15:41:41 GMT
I can't see it being Bilic but i'd be happy with that.
There was a lot going on at West Ham that he was blamed for and judged on but very little of it was actually anything to do with him..The Payet snaking, stadium move, players under performing and dickweed owners.
Good manager and a proper "arm round the shoulder" type
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Bilic
Jan 8, 2018 15:45:20 GMT
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Post by petershiltonsmini on Jan 8, 2018 15:45:20 GMT
Please god noooooooo
He nearly ruined whu and has done nothing at club level what on earth would make us go for a failed manager like him???
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Bilic
Jan 8, 2018 15:47:25 GMT
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jan 8, 2018 15:47:25 GMT
Yes and bilic wouldn't be anywhere near the top of that list either. I'd rather give it potter Allardyce's win ratio at WHU was 37.6% Bilic's win ratio at WHU was 37.8% Statistics, statistics and damn lies eh.............? I bet the majority of bilics win ratio was in the first few seasons before he dismantled big sams team
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 15:50:19 GMT
Please god noooooooo He nearly ruined whu and has done nothing at club level what on earth would make us go for a failed manager like him??? WHU ruined WHU not Bilic
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Bilic
Jan 8, 2018 15:54:52 GMT
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Post by TheElusiveTramp on Jan 8, 2018 15:54:52 GMT
Surely this is just one bookie reacting to a bet placed by a (un)reliable source, Sky Bet were first to have Bilic odds on, and then all the others following suit so they don’t get pumped on the price?
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Bilic
Jan 8, 2018 16:03:49 GMT
Post by petershiltonsmini on Jan 8, 2018 16:03:49 GMT
Please god noooooooo He nearly ruined whu and has done nothing at club level what on earth would make us go for a failed manager like him??? WHU ruined WHU not Bilic So how come Moyes has turned them around so quickly? Bilic was a nice bloke but f**king clueless
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 8, 2018 16:07:30 GMT
When West Ham were at Upton Pk I thought Billic did a decent job,however since they moved to the London Stadium his record was poor.Can’t make my mind up whether he’d be a decent appointment or not🤔Good contacts in the game though after his time with Croatia Yeah because Croatia is a real hotbed of international talent.......... Have a look at their international side and compare it to England's, you'll quickly change your opinion.
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Bilic
Jan 8, 2018 16:18:42 GMT
Post by Pedropotter on Jan 8, 2018 16:18:42 GMT
Yeah because Croatia is a real hotbed of international talent.......... Davor Suker Luke Modric Ivan Rakitic Mario Mandzukic Yeah, real poor those guys. Fishing in a very small pond. You could say the same about any ex-international manager.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 16:21:36 GMT
So how come Moyes has turned them around so quickly? Bilic was a nice bloke but f**king clueless Bilic had so much going on that he was blamed for that wasn't his fault. Payet snaking them, the struggles with the new stadium, owners making decisions that weren't theirs to make.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 8, 2018 16:26:03 GMT
A Sentinel story ruling Bilic out would go down well right about now...
Any time Spinksy.....
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Bilic
Jan 8, 2018 16:27:53 GMT
Post by AstroTom on Jan 8, 2018 16:27:53 GMT
Davor Suker Luke Modric Ivan Rakitic Mario Mandzukic Yeah, real poor those guys. Fishing in a very small pond. You could say the same about any ex-international manager. No matter how small the pond is, there will always be one fish that stands out. If your ties can help you get that stand out fish, then surely that's a good thing. No?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 8, 2018 16:28:07 GMT
So how come Moyes has turned them around so quickly? Bilic was a nice bloke but f**king clueless Bilic had so much going on that he was blamed for that wasn't his fault. Payet snaking them, the struggles with the new stadium, owners making decisions that weren't theirs to make. He was guilty of a lot of the things Hughes was guilty of. Dismantling a strong inherited defence. Creating an unbalanced side that had no identity. Appalling recruitment.
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Bilic
Jan 8, 2018 16:33:24 GMT
Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jan 8, 2018 16:33:24 GMT
I like Bilic, but he's never given me much confidence as a manager. If it came down to Bilic and Giggs (which it won't) it'd be a tough call...
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Bilic
Jan 8, 2018 16:41:46 GMT
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jan 8, 2018 16:41:46 GMT
I can't see it being Bilic but i'd be happy with that. There was a lot going on at West Ham that he was blamed for and judged on but very little of it was actually anything to do with him..The Payet snaking, stadium move, players under performing and dickweed owners.8h Good manager and a proper "arm round the shoulder" type Trouble is some of ours need an industrial hairdryer shoving where the sun don't shine. Hughes was decent with them as far as I'm aware and look how they repaid him . It must be very hard managing these drama queens but I think to keep us up they need a short sharp shock at least and certainly some pretty harsh fitness training during their forthcoming " free " weekends .
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Bilic
Jan 8, 2018 16:43:57 GMT
Post by Pedropotter on Jan 8, 2018 16:43:57 GMT
Fishing in a very small pond. You could say the same about any ex-international manager. No matter how small the pond is, there will always be one fish that stands out. If your ties can help you get that stand out fish, then surely that's a good thing. No? Of course it is. I just dont think an outside chance of signing a half decent international player is reason enough to employ a bloke that cant even tuck his own shirt in properly as Stoke manager - thats all. :-)
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Bilic
Jan 8, 2018 16:46:21 GMT
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Post by sportsman on Jan 8, 2018 16:46:21 GMT
Just catching up having just got in. Somebody explain how by all accounts our main target would be expensive for whatever reason, in work, and prem experience. So can someone explain how we're talking about bilic and rowett?
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Bilic
Jan 8, 2018 16:51:23 GMT
Post by silsdenstokie on Jan 8, 2018 16:51:23 GMT
No great dislike of him but it would be swapping like for like for me. Absolutely not what we need at this moment in time
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Bilic
Jan 8, 2018 16:54:23 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 8, 2018 16:54:23 GMT
If it's Bilic, it will be nothing more than a panic appointment, made with no thought to the long term, simply because he's available and it can be done without too much effort.
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Post by nott1 on Jan 8, 2018 17:05:32 GMT
I like Bilic, but he's never given me much confidence as a manager. If it came down to Bilic and Giggs (which it won't) it'd be a tough call... Giggs has no managerial experience and cannot even control his own todger!
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Post by scfc5 on Jan 8, 2018 17:08:54 GMT
I just don’t want another manager who can’t get his team fit or motivated and who couldn’t stop his team leaking goals. So I don’t want Bilic!
Did those wanting him see West Ham before Moyes?
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Bilic
Jan 8, 2018 17:11:02 GMT
Post by itsmorethanagame on Jan 8, 2018 17:11:02 GMT
Odds still coming in on him but still don't believe it. I will be amazed if we appoint Billic.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jan 8, 2018 17:13:00 GMT
I like Bilic, but he's never given me much confidence as a manager. If it came down to Bilic and Giggs (which it won't) it'd be a tough call... Giggs has no managerial experience and cannot even control his own todger! Indeed. He probably gets all his todger-lovers to bet on him when manager's jobs are available. How else would his odds be so short?
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Bilic
Jan 8, 2018 17:22:38 GMT
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Post by TexasPotter on Jan 8, 2018 17:22:38 GMT
Could there be anyone worse to appoint than Hughes? Enter Slaven Bilic! 😂 God I hope this one is a rouse.
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Jan 8, 2018 17:24:00 GMT
Don't get all the he's crap comments. Just because he ended his spell at WHU under a cloud doesn't mean anything. He was very highly rated pre WHU crash and there were loads of factors there, WHU are a head case club, Payet, new stadium, all sorts. Strange how management goes, no one at WHU wanted a manger that relegated Sunderland, he's now seen as a saint. He's probably a lesser risk than Rowett.
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Bilic
Jan 8, 2018 17:26:23 GMT
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Post by withingtonstokie on Jan 8, 2018 17:26:23 GMT
Could there be anyone worse to appoint than Hughes? Enter Slaven Bilic! 😂 God I hope this one is a rouse. Billic is now on odds on favourite with some bookies - best price 11/10. Rowett best price 4/1 and MON best at 8/1...
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