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Bilic
Jan 8, 2018 21:48:51 GMT
Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 8, 2018 21:48:51 GMT
It's just fans wanting the best for the club. If Bilic is the number one choice then you can understand the concerns bearing in mind his recent record at West Ham.
If we chose a good candidate where you can see a good long term plan then I'm sure the fans would be a lot more positive.
Right now I just think everyone feels like we're trying to do everything on the cheap and if he was appointed then that would back it up.
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Post by bhp on Jan 8, 2018 21:49:55 GMT
If you bet £20 you'd get £21 back. Your stake and £1 profit. Ahh that's what I thought, but I had people telling me you would only get £1 back if you bet £20. Didn't sound right. Of course it doesn't have to be £20. I find decimal odds far simpler and less confusing. 1/20 = 0.05 so decimal odds = 1.05 If you put £1 on your would receive £1.05 back.
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Bilic
Jan 8, 2018 23:21:51 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 23:21:51 GMT
Couldn't please all the people on here if Guardiola got the job... People will moan, as long as Coates gives the job to somebody he's happy to back with money then I'm happy. I don't like Pep, sorry just don't take to the man , Jose neither. Of top managers I like Joachim Löw but we wont get him^ I don't like Bilic either he's a mumbler , depressing. Why do we have to have someone else failure. I'd rather take a younger successful manager. However, we've had a lot of managers and players that a lot of us didn't like over the years, doesn't stop us screaming Goarn Stoke though. I dare say that if Stveeeve McLaren gets the job and wins his first 5 games many opinions of him would changes. Well maybe not that dodgy Dutch accent attempt.
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Bilic
Jan 9, 2018 0:49:51 GMT
Post by jzime on Jan 9, 2018 0:49:51 GMT
If we hired Bilic (and I still don't think we will, by the way), I would be concerned. He's really nothing special. His 2015-16 side that finished 7th was carried by Payet, the wheels started to come off when he wanted out. He'd be a very weird and risky appointment.
However, if he came I'd get behind him. To suggest that having reservations about a manager makes you a shit fan is clearly a bit silly.
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Bilic
Jan 9, 2018 4:40:47 GMT
Post by Fraggy on Jan 9, 2018 4:40:47 GMT
I personally don't think he's the type of manager that's bursting with ambition to lift this team.
It's like swapping Hughes with Hughes again.
We need a go getter. The kind of of manager that will bring the morale back to a very flat squad.
Billic looks very conservative as a person, and that's one thing we don't need right now.
I'd still back him if he becomes manager though.
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Post by senojbor on Jan 9, 2018 5:15:15 GMT
And yet so many people seem to want Koeman. And quite a few wanted the Capped water bottle kicker, same applies. H I'd have 100 times more confidence in the capped water bottle kicker getting us out of this collosal fuck up than the names being served up here.
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Bilic
Jan 9, 2018 5:33:52 GMT
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Post by StokieNath on Jan 9, 2018 5:33:52 GMT
It's a totally normal reaction. We are without a manager and the adrenaline of finally getting rid of Sparky has gone and what's replaced is ultimately anxiety of who the new man will be. Add that with a relegation battle fans are going to be concerned whoever the the new man is. I agree however that we should unite and get behind him whoever it is. Even if it was Paul Lambert or Slaven Bilic (wouldn't be a bad appointment at all)
I don't get the panic behind Bilic, he got West Ham playing some real good football, them losing Payet and not replacing him was his downfall. Likewise with us and N'Zonzi.
He also has the experience, admittedly he's never been in a relegation scrap but has Rowett, Tuchel, Potter etc etc. I'd be fully behind this appointment.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 5:37:52 GMT
It's a totally normal reaction. We are without a manager and the adrenaline of finally getting rid of Sparky has gone and what's replaced is ultimately anxiety of who the new man will be. Add that with a relegation battle fans are going to be concerned whoever the the new man is. I agree however that we should unite and get behind him whoever it is. Even if it was Paul Lambert or Slaven Bilic (wouldn't be a bad appointment at all) I don't get the panic behind Bilic, he got West Ham playing some real good football, them losing Payet and not replacing him was his downfall. Likewise with us and N'Zonzi. He also has the experience, admittedly he's never been in a relegation scrap but has Rowett, Tuchel, Potter etc etc. I'd be fully behind this appointment. The problem is, if we were another club, you could replace 'Bilic' with 'Hughes' and 'West Ham' with 'Stoke' and it'd be perfectly sane. He's done almost exactly the same with them as Hughes did with us, in a shorter amount of time. None of us would have Hughes back, so why would we want Bilic?
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Bilic
Jan 9, 2018 5:41:10 GMT
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Post by StokieNath on Jan 9, 2018 5:41:10 GMT
It's a totally normal reaction. We are without a manager and the adrenaline of finally getting rid of Sparky has gone and what's replaced is ultimately anxiety of who the new man will be. Add that with a relegation battle fans are going to be concerned whoever the the new man is. I agree however that we should unite and get behind him whoever it is. Even if it was Paul Lambert or Slaven Bilic (wouldn't be a bad appointment at all) I don't get the panic behind Bilic, he got West Ham playing some real good football, them losing Payet and not replacing him was his downfall. Likewise with us and N'Zonzi. He also has the experience, admittedly he's never been in a relegation scrap but has Rowett, Tuchel, Potter etc etc. I'd be fully behind this appointment. The problem is, if we were another club, you could replace 'Bilic' with 'Hughes' and 'West Ham' with 'Stoke' and it'd be perfectly sane. He's done almost exactly the same with them as Hughes did with us, in a shorter amount of time. None of us would have Hughes back, so why would we want Bilic? When you look at his first season he got them 6th or 7th. I don't think Sparky has done that with us. Agreed his tactics were strange towards his final days at West Ham boss but you have to look at the variables, Dodgey owners, fans that think they should be competing with the top 6. I also have good authority that it wasn't Bilic who wanted Arnie. It was Sullivan. I'd welcome Bilic.
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Post by mrred on Jan 9, 2018 5:55:50 GMT
To be fair Bilic looked completely broken after constant losses and I assume pressure from the board and fans as it looked like West Ham were at the point of no return. Stoke in our current form wouldn't be a good appointment for him or us.
I say that as someone that likes him as a manager.
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Bilic
Jan 9, 2018 6:09:29 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 6:09:29 GMT
The problem is, if we were another club, you could replace 'Bilic' with 'Hughes' and 'West Ham' with 'Stoke' and it'd be perfectly sane. He's done almost exactly the same with them as Hughes did with us, in a shorter amount of time. None of us would have Hughes back, so why would we want Bilic? When you look at his first season he got them 6th or 7th. I don't think Sparky has done that with us. Agreed his tactics were strange towards his final days at West Ham boss but you have to look at the variables, Dodgey owners, fans that think they should be competing with the top 6. I also have good authority that it wasn't Bilic who wanted Arnie. It was Sullivan. I'd welcome Bilic. Hughes had us 5 points from the top 4 with 7 games left in 2015/16. Dodgy owners aren't hindering Moyes, neither are the fans, nor Arnie. To be honest, Bilic taking them to 6th and then them being relegation fodder makes it even worse than Hughes. Even more than that, Hughes has a far better Premier League record, with way more experience. If you go off that Hughes really would look like a far better appointment than Bilic.
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Post by petershiltonsmini on Jan 9, 2018 6:56:19 GMT
If it is Bilic he is beaten before he steps through the door. Our fans make their minds up they don't like him so he is never given a fair crack. Other managers have failed at one club but have been proven to be successful at another having learned from previous mistakes. If it is to be him then we must get behind him 100 percent from day one if you don't want to do this then leave your seat empty and kindly just f@@@ off. No he is shit He has failed in club management and to prove it Moyes has turned it around rapidy He is shit
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jan 9, 2018 6:59:42 GMT
Under no circumstances should Bilic get the job.
We need someone to unite the fans not divide them even further.
We don't want Bilic at Stoke.
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Bilic
Jan 9, 2018 7:05:53 GMT
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 9, 2018 7:05:53 GMT
He’s not even my 7th choice , should get a walk on part on the walking dead , my nan has my colour in her face in the chapel of rest than this dour looking bloke
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Bilic
Jan 9, 2018 7:56:22 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 7:56:22 GMT
If it is Bilic he is beaten before he steps through the door. Our fans make their minds up they don't like him so he is never given a fair crack. Other managers have failed at one club but have been proven to be successful at another having learned from previous mistakes. If it is to be him then we must get behind him 100 percent from day one if you don't want to do this then leave your seat empty and kindly just f@@@ off. Bang on the money. The usual suspects on here have already got the knives out And a van saying. ****** OUT
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Post by claytonscrubs on Jan 9, 2018 7:58:44 GMT
He’s not even my 7th choice , should get a walk on part on the walking dead , my nan has my colour in her face in the chapel of rest than this dour looking bloke He also stands on the touchline with his hands in his pockets a lot. A big no-no as far as i’m concerned.... He’s not even in my top ten.
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Bilic
Jan 9, 2018 8:03:23 GMT
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jan 9, 2018 8:03:23 GMT
I don't think people don't like Bilic it's just the position we are in and the easy West Ham were playing before he left suggests he is very similar to Hughes. He might not be but I don't feel at the minute he could sort us out defensively and that's the worry . If he had come last summer I think people would have felt better about him.
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Bilic
Jan 9, 2018 8:24:00 GMT
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Post by Dresden_scfc on Jan 9, 2018 8:24:00 GMT
Hopefully a new appointment with something to get excited about even desire commitment fight could just rally the crowd up
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Bilic
Jan 9, 2018 9:27:14 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 9:27:14 GMT
Couldn't please all the people on here if Guardiola got the job... People will moan, as long as Coates gives the job to somebody he's happy to back with money then I'm happy. I don't like Pep, sorry just don't take to the man , Jose neither. Of top managers I like Joachim Löw but we wont get him^ I don't like Bilic either he's a mumbler , depressing. Why do we have to have someone else failure. I'd rather take a younger successful manager. However, we've had a lot of managers and players that a lot of us didn't like over the years, doesn't stop us screaming Goarn Stoke though. I dare say that if Stveeeve McLaren gets the job and wins his first 5 games many opinions of him would changes. Well maybe not that dodgy Dutch accent attempt. Funnily enough I actually hate Pep myself...probably voided my own argument!
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Bilic
Jan 9, 2018 9:37:18 GMT
Post by mustbequackers on Jan 9, 2018 9:37:18 GMT
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Bilic
Jan 9, 2018 16:24:03 GMT
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Bilic
Jan 9, 2018 16:29:05 GMT
Post by realstokebloke on Jan 9, 2018 16:29:05 GMT
Praise the Lord.
We couldn't have been that stupid ... could we? *
* Reserves a full assessment until our actual manager is revealed. It might still be Brucey. Eeek. *
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 9, 2018 18:23:55 GMT
Under no circumstances should Bilic get the job. We need someone to unite the fans not divide them even further. We don't want Bilic at Stoke. The fans are permanently divided - its plain daft to expect a new manager to change that, The best we can hope for is a manager who saves us from relegation - not from our constant bickering and irreconcilable differences of opinion. I like Bilic - but he looked drained at West Ham and it wouldn't do him or us any good to bring him here. He needs a rest and a less stressful job,
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Bilic
Jan 9, 2018 18:29:49 GMT
Post by PolPotter on Jan 9, 2018 18:29:49 GMT
The appointment of Bilic scares the shit out of me. He has charisma, loved by the West Ham support and he did well for them before they moved to their new stadium but is he one of these managers who have had their day and will never rekindle what goodness they had?
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Bilic
Jan 9, 2018 18:34:15 GMT
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 9, 2018 18:34:15 GMT
As inspiring as a kick in the Boloc.
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Bilic
Jan 9, 2018 20:10:46 GMT
Post by chumley on Jan 9, 2018 20:10:46 GMT
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Bilic
Jan 9, 2018 20:17:15 GMT
Post by mermaidsal on Jan 9, 2018 20:17:15 GMT
I personally don't think he's the type of manager that's bursting with ambition to lift this team. It's like swapping Hughes with Hughes again. We need a go getter. The kind of of manager that will bring the morale back to a very flat squad. Billic looks very conservative as a person, and that's one thing we don't need right now. I'd still back him if he becomes manager though. Agree with this - wouldn't be an awful appointment (unlike Lambert, who's a lunatic idea and belongs at Vale Park or similar) and part of me is fascinated to understand what magic exactly Bilic wove when it worked for him at Wet Sham. Unfashionably Michael not Martin O'Neill is my top choice from the names around the frame.
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Bilic
Jan 9, 2018 20:18:16 GMT
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Post by johnbutlershair on Jan 9, 2018 20:18:16 GMT
Hopefully though if we did hire him hed have picked up on this feedback and will utilize it.
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Bilic
Jan 10, 2018 12:26:10 GMT
Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 10, 2018 12:26:10 GMT
SSN, Stoke City have ruled out Bilic taking over from Hughes.
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