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Post by binthelplates on Jan 2, 2018 21:28:16 GMT
With Sky reporting the club are only going to consider a British manager, does the clubs stance make sense ?
I'm suspect Pep, Conte and Mourinho etc... are mighty relieved their not going to be chased by the Stoke board, safe in the knowledge that we'd never employ some 'Jonnie Foreigner'.
I'm sure I read the 'Rooney Rule' will be coming into effect in football, for me the clubs attitude doesn't sit well in modern football.
Is football different to any other business in how it discriminates against potential employees, in this case because they aren't British.
Just go and get a manager, hopefully the right one, irrespective of where they come from.
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Post by samuel32 on Jan 2, 2018 21:31:46 GMT
Could not agree more. There's only a lack of 'alternative options' if you close yourself off to foreign managers or even lower league ones
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Post by lordb on Jan 2, 2018 21:32:01 GMT
No, it's ridiculous.
A knowledge of our game, experience in our league is important but it shouldn't be as dogmatically followed as it is by Coates senior.
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Post by vahl on Jan 2, 2018 21:32:53 GMT
Mark Lawrenson seems to agree with Coates.
Talking about Rowett becoming Stoke manager:
“Surely he’s earned himself a Premier League chance. Surely.
“I’m not being funny, but we are sick of foreign managers all the time – don’t get me wrong there are a lot of good ones – but let’s give some of the British, Irish, Scottish boys a chance.
“He’s doing a great job at Derby County – so why do you think he would go to somewhere like Stoke?
“Because it’s the Premier League.”
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 2, 2018 21:34:23 GMT
More outdated shite from the most out of touch team in English football.
I bet Coates still thinks we play with casey’s.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 2, 2018 21:49:32 GMT
It's limiting. And outdated. Like when the boys club on sky have a rant about no jobs for British managers when there's lots of jobs.
There's the bullshit crap about them 'not knowing the league' which is mindless. They only have to turn their tellies on ferfuxache.
Football is a global entity. Failure to adapt to that notion is self defeating. And ignorant.
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Post by Olgrligm on Jan 2, 2018 21:53:21 GMT
Who says it's actually true?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 2, 2018 21:56:19 GMT
Mark Lawrenson seems to agree with Coates. Talking about Rowett becoming Stoke manager: “Surely he’s earned himself a Premier League chance. Surely. “I’m not being funny, but we are sick of foreign managers all the time – don’t get me wrong there are a lot of good ones – but let’s give some of the British, Irish, Scottish boys a chance. “He’s doing a great job at Derby County – so why do you think he would go to somewhere like Stoke? “Because it’s the Premier League.” I think he's right about Rowett, managers want to be in the Prem and Stoke is a decent club to have a go at it with, a decent group of players even if it is an unbalanced squad, and from the outside we are willing to spend on the odd player and you'll get some time. |
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Post by Boothen on Jan 2, 2018 21:56:25 GMT
It's fucking embarrassing is what it is. We're a Premier League team being run by donkeys with a League 2 mentality.
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Jan 2, 2018 23:12:19 GMT
If you're sick, wouldn't you opt for the most qualified doctor regardless of nationality?
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 2, 2018 23:13:30 GMT
If you're sick, wouldn't you opt for the most qualified doctor regardless of nationality? Beautifully put. Very poetic!  |
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Post by jzime on Jan 2, 2018 23:32:38 GMT
Not wanting a foreign manager is baffling and xenophobic, we should want the right man in the best interest of the club at all times. We have a squad full of foreign talent, and if we only signed British players we'd be rightly lambasted in the press.
More than that, I really don't see how it could be legal if this really is our policy. It's discrimination, simple as that. Imagine if any other company, in any walk of life, in the 21st Century refused to hire foreign employees? They'd be up in front of the courts before you could blink.
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Post by estp1863 on Jan 2, 2018 23:35:40 GMT
Not wanting a foreign manager is baffling and xenophobic, we should want the right man in the best interest of the club at all times. We have a squad full of foreign talent, and if we only signed British players we'd be rightly lambasted in the press. More than that, I really don't see how it could be legal if this really is our policy. It's discrimination, simple as that. Imagine if any other company, in any walk of life, in the 21st Century refused to hire foreign employees? They'd be up in front of the courts before you could blink. In National football it happens all the time. Was it Wales who just said the next manager will not be English? Plenty of countries decide they want a home grown man, I don't see the difference at club level |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 23:38:22 GMT
Mark Lawrenson seems to agree with Coates. Talking about Rowett becoming Stoke manager: “Surely he’s earned himself a Premier League chance. Surely. “I’m not being funny, but we are sick of foreign managers all the time – don’t get me wrong there are a lot of good ones – but let’s give some of the British, Irish, Scottish boys a chance. “He’s doing a great job at Derby County – so why do you think he would go to somewhere like Stoke? “Because it’s the Premier League.” 'British, Irish, Scottish' ... ??? |
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Post by numpty40 on Jan 2, 2018 23:39:22 GMT
A bit bizarre for someone who went on Question Time to espouse the virtues of Europe.
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Post by skip on Jan 2, 2018 23:40:51 GMT
"We only want a British manager" sounds much truer when said aloud in a ridiculous generic Northern voice. A bit like Allinson's bread is better with nowt taken out. Better still, whilst wearing a tidy if outmoded three piece suit and driving a Bentley.
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Post by estp1863 on Jan 2, 2018 23:41:19 GMT
He's just set in his ways, it's not like it's not worked for us so far and he's still peddling it regardless
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 2, 2018 23:44:44 GMT
"We only want a British manager" sounds much truer when said aloud in a ridiculous generic Northern voice. A bit like Allinson's bread is better with nowt taken out. Better still, whilst wearing a tidy if outmoded three piece suit and driving a Bentley. So this lot could nail it |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 2, 2018 23:45:31 GMT
Being set in your ways doesn’t sound like a brilliant mindset for a businessman. Isn’t that how you get left behind while the world changes without you?
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Post by skip on Jan 2, 2018 23:46:01 GMT
Being set in your ways doesn’t sound like a brilliant mindset for a businessman. Isn’t that how you get left behind while the world changes without you? Yep. Certainly does. |
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Post by estp1863 on Jan 2, 2018 23:47:25 GMT
Being set in your ways doesn’t sound like a brilliant mindset for a businessman. Isn’t that how you get left behind while the world changes without you? Probably but it's not served us bad this far |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 2, 2018 23:48:50 GMT
Being set in your ways doesn’t sound like a brilliant mindset for a businessman. Isn’t that how you get left behind while the world changes without you? Probably but it's not served us bad this far That doesn’t mean it will forever. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 23:51:59 GMT
"We only want a British manager" sounds much truer when said aloud in a ridiculous generic Northern voice. A bit like Allinson's bread is better with nowt taken out. Better still, whilst wearing a tidy if outmoded three piece suit and driving a Bentley. Reminds me of Dave Whelan saying “I’ll only ever have a British manager in charge of Wigan’’ , which was made even better by the fact he went out and appointed Roberto Martinez after. |
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Post by estp1863 on Jan 2, 2018 23:52:15 GMT
Probably but it's not served us bad this far That doesn’t mean it will forever. Personally I'd prefer a British bloke that knows the league & the players in it myself |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 2, 2018 23:53:43 GMT
That doesn’t mean it will forever. Personally I'd prefer a British bloke that knows the league & the players in it myself I think ‘knowing the league’ is vastly overrated as a quality. I’d like a bloke who’s tactically shrewd and can find some good players and/or improve the ones we’ve got. I don’t care if he comes from Bucknall or Saturn. |
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Post by estp1863 on Jan 2, 2018 23:54:57 GMT
Personally I'd prefer a British bloke that knows the league & the players in it myself I think ‘knowing the league’ is vastly overrated as a quality. I’d like a bloke who’s tactically shrewd and can find some good players and/or improve the ones we’ve got. I don’t care if he comes from Bucknall or Saturn. don't worry it won't be that far they are both in ireland 😉 |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 2, 2018 23:56:04 GMT
I think ‘knowing the league’ is vastly overrated as a quality. I’d like a bloke who’s tactically shrewd and can find some good players and/or improve the ones we’ve got. I don’t care if he comes from Bucknall or Saturn. don't worry it won't be that far they are both in ireland 😉 Ideally we’ll be looking at up and comers, not dinosaurs... |
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Post by skip on Jan 2, 2018 23:58:01 GMT
Personally I'd prefer a British bloke that knows the league & the players in it myself I think ‘knowing the league’ is vastly overrated as a quality. I’d like a bloke who’s tactically shrewd and can find some good players and/or improve the ones we’ve got. I don’t care if he comes from Bucknall or Saturn.For any journalists sneaking a peak at The Oatcake, there's your quote, right there. |
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Post by estp1863 on Jan 2, 2018 23:58:48 GMT
don't worry it won't be that far they are both in ireland 😉 Ideally we’ll be looking at up and comers, not dinosaurs... By dinosaur do you mean good old fashioned English football? Brilliant |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 3, 2018 0:00:36 GMT
Ideally we’ll be looking at up and comers, not dinosaurs... By dinosaur do you mean good old fashioned English football? Brilliant No, I mean prehistoric types who the game has passed by. What I do like about MON is that he at least values pace and wingers, but his Sunderland team was absolutely woeful and his Ireland team are pretty hard to watch. |
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