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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jan 1, 2018 21:04:57 GMT
The fact of the matter is that there’s nobody any better that’s available or would want to join us so the board have no choice! Irrelevant.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 1, 2018 21:08:22 GMT
The fact of the matter is that there’s nobody any better that’s available or would want to join us so the board have no choice! WTF😡Why do fans keep saying this?So let’s just stick with him then and let the 10 years of hard work slip away as though it never happened because certain fans think we can’t replace a busted flush
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Post by harrysburrow on Jan 1, 2018 21:08:53 GMT
The fact of the matter is that there’s nobody any better that’s available or would want to join us so the board have no choice! Irrelevant. But the lack of suitable replacements is the boards fault - they've dicked about for months.
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Post by jarhead on Jan 1, 2018 21:09:07 GMT
This cannot continue, it’s gonna turn nasty and it’s a rotten place to go to now with Hughes in charge.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jan 1, 2018 21:16:14 GMT
But the lack of suitable replacements is the boards fault - they've dicked about for months. Rodgers or Mancini might come if we threw enough cash at them. Koemann Van Gaal Bilic Di Matteo Are all out of work and as it stands I would have any of them over Hughes. The new bloke doesn't even need to be objectively "better" than Hughes, they just have to be new with fresh ideas and approaches. It's now a bigger gamble to stick with the clueless idiot than it is to take a punt on someone who, if you'd suggested six months ago, you might have claimed to be "sideways".
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Post by potter25 on Jan 1, 2018 21:16:29 GMT
1/5 now be next gone Was evens at full time
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Post by serpico on Jan 1, 2018 21:19:25 GMT
I think Coates would have acted by now if he thought there was an obvious viable stand out replacement, he might well be thinking 'whats the point' ? ... and he might be right, theres is no realistic replacement out there who you'd say "he'll definitely keep us up" any replacement would likely be every bit the gamble as keeping Hughes on.
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Post by BuzzB on Jan 1, 2018 21:21:25 GMT
1/5 now be next gone Was evens at full time We are 15/8 to be relegated from 9/2 last week. Bet365 too.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 1, 2018 21:23:03 GMT
I think Coates would have acted by now if he thought there was an obvious viable stand out replacement, he might well be thinking 'whats the point' ? ... and he might be right, theres is no realistic replacement out there who you'd say "he'll definitely keep us up" any replacement would likely be every bit the gamble as keeping Hughes on. Naah, I think everyone knows the game is up now. The board have left themselves in a situation where they have to gamble. Hughes remaining, as we have see with his recruitment in the summer and the garbage performances, would mean championship football is certain
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2018 21:24:00 GMT
You have more faith in MH than I. Well mate you keep flapping in the wind. So yeah I do. Mate? I think you used the wrong salutation there if that's your fucking tone.
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 1, 2018 21:25:15 GMT
Ok........I'll look forward to that Got a better option before I compose it? Cryptic?
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Post by smallthorner on Jan 1, 2018 21:26:27 GMT
What significance does number of posts mean? Is it a badge of honour? Does it mean you are a better supporter than me? I'd wager that I've seen more relegation scraps than you and have never gone down the route of boycotting games. Pathetic. People pay their money and take their choice. I would never boycott a game or leave early, but it's nobody else's business whether I do or not? How many posts you've made doesn't really have much significance with regard to personal opinion, you're just less likely to get shit for critisising people's loyalty if you're a more familiar face? Fair enough. Just don't think boycotting games is an option for a "supporter"
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Post by chamberlain on Jan 1, 2018 21:26:28 GMT
I think Coates would have acted by now if he thought there was an obvious viable stand out replacement, he might well be thinking 'whats the point' ? ... and he might be right, theres is no realistic replacement out there who you'd say "he'll definitely keep us up" any replacement would likely be every bit the gamble as keeping Hughes on. It’s up to the board to get off their sorry arses and do some homework and find a replacement.
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Post by djduncanjames on Jan 1, 2018 21:30:13 GMT
I heard a whisper that it will cost £6.5 million to get rid of him. What a load of tripe. He is supposed to be on £900k and has 18 months left on his contract so will only earn £1.45m - how could it cost us more that his wages for the balance of his contract. Wonder if that figure is for ALL of his staff as well? It's not just one contract,is it?
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 1, 2018 22:26:47 GMT
Got a better option before I compose it? Cryptic? No. A direct question mate.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 1, 2018 22:29:01 GMT
Well mate you keep flapping in the wind. So yeah I do. Mate? I think you used the wrong salutation there if that's your fucking tone. Internet. Grow a pair. And make yr mind up. Widge.
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Post by VolvicStokie on Jan 1, 2018 22:31:36 GMT
He's 1/5 on now to get the sack.
I'm 95% certain he'll be gone tomorrow.
So on that note I'm going hit the sack. Wake up in the morning and pray there's some news
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 1, 2018 22:32:02 GMT
No. A direct question mate. You'll have to qualify the question then. A better option than what, mate?
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 1, 2018 22:35:42 GMT
No. A direct question mate. You'll have to qualify the question then. A better option than what, mate? Hughes? Soft lad.
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Post by mermaidsal on Jan 1, 2018 22:39:40 GMT
84 posts and throwing your weight around? Call yourself a troll?? What significance does number of posts mean? Is it a badge of honour? Does it mean you are a better supporter than me? I'd wager that I've seen more relegation scraps than you and have never gone down the route of boycotting games. Pathetic. I'm cringing in shame, not sure I can bear this humilitation - so we must have been sat next to each other when we lost 0-7 to Birmingham then, is that right? I'm shouting boycott or similar now if the Board don't take action because the stakes are so massively higher and because I and many more Stokies have been there for the long and at times nightmare journey to the Prem. The thought of blowing it all at this point, when it's still salvageable, breaks my heart and I want to do something about it if I possibly can. Sorry if that makes me pathetic, I wish I was such a hero as you xx
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 1, 2018 22:42:07 GMT
You'll have to qualify the question then. A better option than what, mate? Hughes? Soft lad. I knew what you meant....... drunk yet?
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Post by Sfance on Jan 1, 2018 22:43:55 GMT
Ah the memories, 0-7, ... I normally get to see one game a season in the flesh and that season, it happened to be that one. Some things cannot be forgotten no matter how hard you try.
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Post by smallthorner on Jan 1, 2018 22:48:59 GMT
What significance does number of posts mean? Is it a badge of honour? Does it mean you are a better supporter than me? I'd wager that I've seen more relegation scraps than you and have never gone down the route of boycotting games. Pathetic. I'm cringing in shame, not sure I can bear this humilitation - so we must have been sat next to each other when we lost 0-7 to Birmingham then, is that right? I'm shouting boycott or similar now if the Board don't take action because the stakes are so massively higher and because I and many more Stokies have been there for the long and at times nightmare journey to the Prem. The thought of blowing it all at this point, when it's still salvageable, breaks my heart and I want to do something about it if I possibly can. Sorry if that makes me pathetic, I wish I was such a hero as you xx So you think boycotting the next game is going to be beneficial.? What's with the sarcasm anyway? xx
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Post by mermaidsal on Jan 1, 2018 22:55:40 GMT
Listen I don't mean to fall out with a fellow Stokie, blood should be thicker than water at a time like this. I'm just really upset like a lot of people and because you're not yet a regular poster I don't happen to know you as well as many others on here (and trolls do emerge when the team's in trouble, sadly). Please don't feel you're unelcome on the Oatie - but my personal opinion does remain that if the Board leave Sparky in charge for our next Prem game and enough fellow supporters feel the same way, yes I would join a mass bycott if I thought there was a serious chance it would make the Coates family finally see sense.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Jan 1, 2018 23:44:51 GMT
I think Coates would have acted by now if he thought there was an obvious viable stand out replacement, he might well be thinking 'whats the point' ? ... and he might be right, theres is no realistic replacement out there who you'd say "he'll definitely keep us up" any replacement would likely be every bit the gamble as keeping Hughes on. The margins in the PL are incredibly small. The whole of the lower half of the table is trying to do exactly what we are trying to do. There are no guarantees either way. IMHO If Hughes stays we might go down, but we might not. If he goes, we might stay up, but we might not, not least because that option is of course two decisions - getting rid of Hughes is followed by the choice of an alternative. You would have to offer me very generous odds to take a bet that the three relegated clubs won't have changed their manager in attempt to stay up. There's probably a greater chance that all three relegated clubs will all have changed their manager for that reason. Peter Coates is a shrewd, hands on, chairman who knows english football very well (unlike many foreign-based owners) and is a lifelong supporter of his club (again unlike many owners) who has invested a great deal in Stoke City, both emotionally and financially. He now has a judgement to make. Personally, I would trust his judgement more than my own on this one, simply because he is in a much more informed position than I am to make it. I wish him well in making it and just hope and pray that he gets it right.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 1, 2018 23:46:54 GMT
I think Coates would have acted by now if he thought there was an obvious viable stand out replacement, he might well be thinking 'whats the point' ? ... and he might be right, theres is no realistic replacement out there who you'd say "he'll definitely keep us up" any replacement would likely be every bit the gamble as keeping Hughes on. The margins in the PL are incredibly small. The whole of the lower half of the table is trying to do exactly what we are trying to do. There are no guarantees either way. IMHO If Hughes stays we might go down, but we might not. If he goes, we might stay up, but we might not, not least because that option is of course two decisions - getting rid of Hughes is followed by the choice of an alternative. You would have to offer me very generous odds to take a bet that the three relegated clubs won't have changed their manager in attempt to stay up. There's probably a greater chance that all three relegated clubs will all have changed their manager for that reason. Peter Coates is a shrewd, hands on, chairman who knows english football very well (unlike many foreign-based owners) and is a lifelong supporter of his club (again unlike many owners) who has invested a great deal in Stoke City, both emotionally and financially. He now has a judgement to make. Personally, I would trust his judgement more than my own on this one, simply because he is in a much more informed position than I am to make it. I wish him well in making it and just hope and pray that he gets it right. He's already got it wrong. He should have acted in May.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 1, 2018 23:49:35 GMT
I think Coates would have acted by now if he thought there was an obvious viable stand out replacement, he might well be thinking 'whats the point' ? ... and he might be right, theres is no realistic replacement out there who you'd say "he'll definitely keep us up" any replacement would likely be every bit the gamble as keeping Hughes on. The margins in the PL are incredibly small. The whole of the lower half of the table is trying to do exactly what we are trying to do. There are no guarantees either way. IMHO If Hughes stays we might go down, but we might not. If he goes, we might stay up, but we might not, not least because that option is of course two decisions - getting rid of Hughes is followed by the choice of an alternative. You would have to offer me very generous odds to take a bet that the three relegated clubs won't have changed their manager in attempt to stay up. There's probably a greater chance that all three relegated clubs will all have changed their manager for that reason. Peter Coates is a shrewd, hands on, chairman who knows english football very well (unlike many foreign-based owners) and is a lifelong supporter of his club (again unlike many owners) who has invested a great deal in Stoke City, both emotionally and financially. He now has a judgement to make. Personally, I would trust his judgement more than my own on this one, simply because he is in a much more informed position than I am to make it. I wish him well in making it and just hope and pray that he gets it right. If you had to make the decision now what would you do Malcolm? Hughes out? Or give him the rest of the season?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2018 23:53:40 GMT
The margins in the PL are incredibly small. The whole of the lower half of the table is trying to do exactly what we are trying to do. There are no guarantees either way. IMHO If Hughes stays we might go down, but we might not. If he goes, we might stay up, but we might not, not least because that option is of course two decisions - getting rid of Hughes is followed by the choice of an alternative. You would have to offer me very generous odds to take a bet that the three relegated clubs won't have changed their manager in attempt to stay up. There's probably a greater chance that all three relegated clubs will all have changed their manager for that reason. Peter Coates is a shrewd, hands on, chairman who knows english football very well (unlike many foreign-based owners) and is a lifelong supporter of his club (again unlike many owners) who has invested a great deal in Stoke City, both emotionally and financially. He now has a judgement to make. Personally, I would trust his judgement more than my own on this one, simply because he is in a much more informed position than I am to make it. I wish him well in making it and just hope and pray that he gets it right. If you had to make the decision now what would you do Malcolm? Hughes out? Or give him the rest of the season? [br I'm not Malcolm but he needs to go now. The fans have turned and it is going to do no good with that atmosphere. A man would bring a lift to everyone.
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Post by marwood on Jan 1, 2018 23:59:16 GMT
I'm not Malcolm either but think he should go Has oldstoke gone? Hope he hasn't deleted ???
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Post by Block 22 on Jan 2, 2018 0:01:56 GMT
There’s are still a portion of our fans who can only see the last 5 games. This isn’t just a bad run, it’s 2 years of utter horse spunk, 2 whole years! League position at this very second now is an irrelevant argument. We have been consistently shit for 2 years and it’s getting worse. If we don’t act now we’re fucked.
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