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Post by crapslinger on Dec 26, 2017 20:34:51 GMT
Trust me. That will never happen It will highlight just how tactically inept our top level manager really is Agreed but what for signing him in the first place or not playing him, can not understand why he started him last season when he was unfit and overweight, he undoubtedly cost us valuable points last season then he allegedly gets himself fit pre season, plays a few actually creates a goal then is dropped like the dead donkey, something is desperately amiss at the club.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 26, 2017 20:35:24 GMT
Yes, even when he's warming up he's bored shitless... I don't think I've ever seen anyone less excited to be a professional footballer. Imbula ? Wimmer ?
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Dec 26, 2017 20:35:30 GMT
Because he knows the dim wit of a manager isn't going to bring him on. Says more about his professionalism and attitude to me. His sense of entitlement is staggering Fair enough. As a manager, I know part of my day to day role is to coach, motivate and encourage my team to be the best that they can be. If my team members were failing, I would be failing. I suppose its all about points of veiw.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 26, 2017 20:36:46 GMT
I am not convinced choupo is a centre forward ? But I am convinced he's more lively and more effective than berahino Choupo is a winger you can tell by the way he drifts wide when played up front, tbf he is doing the best he can with the role given to him.
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 26, 2017 20:39:38 GMT
It will highlight just how tactically inept our top level manager really is Agreed but what for signing him in the first place or not playing him, can not understand why he started him last season when he was unfit and overweight, he undoubtedly cost us valuable points last season then he allegedly gets himself fit pre season, plays a few actually creates a goal then is dropped like the dead donkey, something is desperately amiss at the club.   hughes has lost the plot, he lost it monghs ago, the individual players are the ones suffering well he retains his position. This guy couldn't motivate a 40 year old virgin to visit a massage parlour
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 20:41:05 GMT
He should be starting, but he didn't because Hughes doesn't change a winning team, no matter what deficiencies it shows, and we won last week.
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Dec 26, 2017 20:41:50 GMT
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 26, 2017 20:41:50 GMT
Says more about his professionalism and attitude to me. His sense of entitlement is staggering Fair enough. As a manager, I know part of my day to day role is to coach, motivate and encourage my team to be the best that they can be. If my team members were failing, I would be failing. I suppose its all about points of veiw. If you took a fixed term contractor into you team on a massive pay rate on a 5 year contract and he decided that he couldn't be arsed or bothered and didn't appear to be able to carry out his duties I'm sure, for the benefit of the rest of your team you would minimise his involvement. You'd tell him to up his game, prove himself and then you'd bring him back into the team
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Post by marwood on Dec 26, 2017 20:42:04 GMT
There was the Salmon En Croute incident but that was months ago and to be honest I think it was blown out of all proportion even at the time
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Post by Sfance on Dec 26, 2017 20:42:50 GMT
What earthly evidence is there that he’s worth more than a fiver a week? Compared to the mounds of evidence that he’s utterly useless. Like many I think Hughes needs to go, and for sure he should never have pursued Berahino but there’s such a thing as realizing you made an almighty mistake - which Hughes apparently has done.
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 26, 2017 20:53:48 GMT
I don't think I've ever seen anyone less excited to be a professional footballer. Imbula ? Wimmer ?
Three very poor signings, but Imbula actually looked a decent player when he first arrived and was being compared to Zonz, something went horribly wrong but for a brief moment looked a top player. Wimmer is just a poor footballer, no matter how hard he tries he's not good enough I'm afraid, nothing to do with not giving a shit. Berahino has contributed the square root of fuck all since arriving and looks like he doesn't give a shit whilst doing so.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 26, 2017 20:59:45 GMT
What has he done to be left out so often, has he fell out with the management team ? Probably just a bullshit rumour from someone down a pub, but a mate of mine told me the other week that Bowen had him round the throat in training. Thought bollocks at the time, but the longer he doesn't play gets you thinking.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 26, 2017 21:00:23 GMT
He should be starting, but he didn't because Hughes doesn't change a winning team, no matter what deficiencies it shows, and we won last week. So why has he not started him when we have been losing ?, playing Crouch, Diouf, Jese and Moting before him makes no footballing sense at all.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Dec 26, 2017 21:03:31 GMT
According to today's daily star , Hughes 3 transfer targets for January are Daniel opare , Danny ings ( loan ) and slimani If that's true , then it looks like berahino is leaving Danny Ings. Another striker who has barely played for two years will take 12 months to get him match fit...brilliant. It took us half a season and a pre season to get bera fit only for the manager to then decide he doesn't fit the system!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 21:26:07 GMT
He should be starting, but he didn't because Hughes doesn't change a winning team, no matter what deficiencies it shows, and we won last week. So why has he not started him when we have been losing ?, playing Crouch, Diouf, Jese and Moting before him makes no footballing sense at all. That I can't answer, other than he's daft.
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Post by pb1863 on Dec 26, 2017 21:27:57 GMT
Last Christmas, I gave you a start, but the very next day... Etc Haha
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Post by mickmacc on Dec 26, 2017 21:28:22 GMT
Because he knows the dim wit of a manager isn't going to bring him on. Says more about his professionalism and attitude to me. His sense of entitlement is staggering Nail on head.
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Dec 26, 2017 21:29:18 GMT
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Post by mickmacc on Dec 26, 2017 21:29:18 GMT
He should be starting, but he didn't because Hughes doesn't change a winning team, no matter what deficiencies it shows, and we won last week. So why has he not started him when we have been losing ?, playing Crouch, Diouf, Jese and Moting before him makes no footballing sense at all. Starting them ahead of someone who hasn’t scored for two years makes no sense??
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Post by magliarosa on Dec 26, 2017 21:34:37 GMT
Anyone notice during the shooting practice before today's game he kept hitting the post 😯
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 26, 2017 22:07:55 GMT
So why has he not started him when we have been losing ?, playing Crouch, Diouf, Jese and Moting before him makes no footballing sense at all. Starting them ahead of someone who hasn’t scored for two years makes no sense?? I was being sarcastic Mick sorry it's a Stoke thing, Lill fraise struggles with the fact that Berahino is actually dog shit in Hughes's mind despite spunking £12 million for his services
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 26, 2017 22:08:41 GMT
Anyone notice during the shooting practice before today's game he kept hitting the post 😯 He's improving then
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Post by toppercorner on Dec 26, 2017 22:38:54 GMT
can anyone point out, literally, this bad attitude and self entitlement. Actual evidence, not heresay, or 'gut feeling', stone cold hard evidence he's a bad apple please.
i've looked and can't see it.
all i've seen so far, is someone who played unfit last year, and sporadically this year. when i have seen him this year, like everyone else, he's made runs and had good efforts saved/been very close
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Post by hchpotter on Dec 26, 2017 22:40:10 GMT
We’ve got our own little Danny Graham. Only we paid £12 million for his zero goal return.
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Post by armitagestokie on Dec 26, 2017 22:40:58 GMT
If he doesn't get 90mins at Coventry then Sparky needs castrating!!!
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 26, 2017 22:48:58 GMT
can anyone point out, literally, this bad attitude and self entitlement. Actual evidence, not heresay, or 'gut feeling', stone cold hard evidence he's a bad apple please. i've looked and can't see it. all i've seen so far, is someone who played unfit last year, and sporadically this year. when i have seen him this year, like everyone else, he's made runs and had good efforts saved/been very close There is a reason why Berahino can't get a game either starting or from the bench. He cost a lot of money for a club like Stoke who are struggling at the foot of the table with a manager fighting for his job. Now I'm sure if Berahino turned up every morning with a spring in his step and was smashing them in on the training ground he would have been given half a chance. He hasn't though so naturally people consider the option that somethings not quite right
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Post by toppercorner on Dec 26, 2017 22:59:00 GMT
can anyone point out, literally, this bad attitude and self entitlement. Actual evidence, not heresay, or 'gut feeling', stone cold hard evidence he's a bad apple please. i've looked and can't see it. all i've seen so far, is someone who played unfit last year, and sporadically this year. when i have seen him this year, like everyone else, he's made runs and had good efforts saved/been very close There is a reason why Berahino can't get a game either starting or from the bench. He cost a lot of money for a club like Stoke who are struggling at the foot of the table with a manager fighting for his job. Now I'm sure if Berahino turned up every morning with a spring in his step and was smashing them in on the training ground he would have been given half a chance. He hasn't though so naturally people consider the option that somethings not quite right i get that he's done nothing that a striker should do. I myself wasn't hugely impressed when he signed as i thought we had the squad to do what we need to do, but the amount of bullshit that is posted as 'fact' about bad attitudes is mind boggling. i can only assume those who slate the unproven allegations are vale fans intent on causing disruption i want him to score badly, and i think he'll thrive in a forward 2. I'd like hughes to try it from the off
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 26, 2017 23:01:01 GMT
can anyone point out, literally, this bad attitude and self entitlement. Actual evidence, not heresay, or 'gut feeling', stone cold hard evidence he's a bad apple please. i've looked and can't see it. all i've seen so far, is someone who played unfit last year, and sporadically this year. when i have seen him this year, like everyone else, he's made runs and had good efforts saved/been very close I feel like these amazing runs he’s apparently constantly making are in the same class as the ‘good work people just don’t notice’ that we were always being told Dean Whitehead used to do. They’re curiously invisible to the naked eye. The influence he’s had on games has been non-existent.
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Post by toppercorner on Dec 26, 2017 23:02:21 GMT
can anyone point out, literally, this bad attitude and self entitlement. Actual evidence, not heresay, or 'gut feeling', stone cold hard evidence he's a bad apple please. i've looked and can't see it. all i've seen so far, is someone who played unfit last year, and sporadically this year. when i have seen him this year, like everyone else, he's made runs and had good efforts saved/been very close I feel like these amazing runs he’s apparently constantly making are in the same class as the ‘good work people just don’t notice’ that we were always being told Dean Whitehead used to do. They’re curiously invisible to the naked eye. The influence he’s had on games has been non-existent. sure, i get that but can anyone show me absolute proof of bad attitude that is alluded to?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 26, 2017 23:09:09 GMT
There is a reason why Berahino can't get a game either starting or from the bench. He cost a lot of money for a club like Stoke who are struggling at the foot of the table with a manager fighting for his job. Now I'm sure if Berahino turned up every morning with a spring in his step and was smashing them in on the training ground he would have been given half a chance. He hasn't though so naturally people consider the option that somethings not quite right i get that he's done nothing that a striker should do. I myself wasn't hugely impressed when he signed as i thought we had the squad to do what we need to do, but the amount of bullshit that is posted as 'fact' about bad attitudes is mind boggling. i can only assume those who slate the unproven allegations are vale fans intent on causing disruption i want him to score badly, and i think he'll thrive in a forward 2. I'd like hughes to try it from the off I watched him "warm up" before the Palace game. It looked to me to be completely half arsed, disinterested, and unprofessional. He just looked led like he didn't give a flying fuck. Circumstantial I'll grant you but it looked very poor. As another poster has said his impact on games has been negligible, compare with Choupo, gets dropped, comes back firing on all cylinders, scores and has a huge potential influence on the game.
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 26, 2017 23:10:01 GMT
can anyone point out, literally, this bad attitude and self entitlement. Actual evidence, not heresay, or 'gut feeling', stone cold hard evidence he's a bad apple please. i've looked and can't see it. all i've seen so far, is someone who played unfit last year, and sporadically this year. when i have seen him this year, like everyone else, he's made runs and had good efforts saved/been very close If it's said often often people think it's true & say it themselves, bad attitude my arse
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Dec 26, 2017 23:10:29 GMT
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 26, 2017 23:10:29 GMT
I feel like these amazing runs he’s apparently constantly making are in the same class as the ‘good work people just don’t notice’ that we were always being told Dean Whitehead used to do. They’re curiously invisible to the naked eye. The influence he’s had on games has been non-existent. sure, i get that but can anyone show me absolute proof of bad attitude that is alluded to? You can't have "absolute proof" of a bad attitude as it's a subjective test!
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