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Berahino
Dec 31, 2017 10:09:22 GMT
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 31, 2017 10:09:22 GMT
Is it possible that playing for Chelsea & the service he is getting might help just a tad? How do you think he'd of done today for stoke in Berahinos position? I reckon he would have finished the one-on-one. So 1 more goal than Berahino scored Yeah but he missed 2 ome on ones himself? So his conversion rate isn't 100 %
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Post by toppercorner on Dec 31, 2017 10:12:19 GMT
i was there he was always looking for the balls and making runs just hughes decided not to play anyone who could provide him - hung out to dry Adam put him through with a sensational pass, he had one chance and missed. from where i was sat, it looked like a great save by the keeper he did very well to outmuscle the chelsea defenders and get a quick shot on target from outside the box
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 10:14:59 GMT
He was a sulking whiny little shit at West Brom under Tony and today I saw him one on one with the goalie and he couldn't lift the ball over him......Arnie would have scored. What, like the 5 he scored at our place the other week? Oh, he missed 4 of them.
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Berahino
Dec 31, 2017 10:15:15 GMT
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 31, 2017 10:15:15 GMT
Ffs Coates just fuck this clueless idiot Hughes off and get someone else in you cheapskate or do us all a favour and sell up miser.
He can't even supply decent players with chances Ffs
SAIDO IN HUGHES OUT
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Post by Block 22 on Dec 31, 2017 10:20:25 GMT
I’m sorry but you don’t just lose this overnight. Still honestly believe the guy will score goals if played in the right system. Just play Shaqiri in the number 10 behind him FFS!
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 31, 2017 10:22:42 GMT
I’m sorry but you don’t just lose this overnight. Still honestly believe the guy will score goals if played in the right system. Just play Shaqiri in the number 0 behind him FFS! You just know the bell end calling the shots will let him get disinterested on the bench. The inevitable will happen. Big bust up, transfer request then a clueless welsh idiot claiming a bad attitude. It fucking stinks. Hughes out
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 31, 2017 10:31:33 GMT
Yep, I think Berahino has the hunger, that performance was evidence of that.
We need to give him a proper chance. The manager should be telling other players to focus on providing him with service.
Frankly, i'd rather Hughes leave and we get a new manager and coaching staff that actually improves players. I'd like to see someone come in and have a go at 'getting a tune' from berahino and wimmer. I've given up on Imbula obviously.
When you have the raw ability Berahino has he WILL come good if he is now given the chance.
The situation is laughable given how atrocious Crouch has been in the lone striker role, and still he starts games all the time
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 31, 2017 10:39:35 GMT
Yep, I think Berahino has the hunger, that performance was evidence of that. We need to give him a proper chance. The manager should be telling other players to focus on providing him with service. Frankly, i'd rather Hughes leave and we get a new manager and coaching staff that actually improves players. I'd like to see someone come in and have a go at 'getting a tune' from berahino and wimmer. I've given up on Imbula obviously. When you have the raw ability Berahino has he WILL come good if he is now given the chance. The situation is laughable given how atrocious Crouch has been in the lone striker role, and still he starts games all the time Agree, crouch is best as a sub for a plan b, even chuck up alongside Berahino later in a game if needed. Despite being out of the game I can't honestly see Lou Macari doing any worse than this idiot for the last 17 games. Hughes out
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Berahino
Dec 31, 2017 10:40:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 10:40:53 GMT
Despite what anyone says, for or against, he simply cannot do any worse than the alternatives.
Watching Crouch playing up-top on his own is akin to removing your own eyeballs with a rusty spoon. It's also a small part of the problem we have retaining possession, and turning teams around. We're just too easy to defend against.
Diouf, again not on his own. Plus he's so unpredictable that even he's not sure what happens next, half of the time. I don't rate him, though many do.
Outside of that we're scratching our arses trying non-strikers.....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 12:20:24 GMT
Ffs Coates just fuck this clueless idiot Hughes off and get someone else in you cheapskate or do us all a favour and sell up miser. He can't even supply decent players with chances Ffs SAIDO IN HUGHES OUT Do you have a Sat Nav. If so type these in and off ya trot. Latitude: 53° 02' 35.40" N Longitude: -2° 11' 19.80" W
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Berahino
Dec 31, 2017 12:28:59 GMT
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Dec 31, 2017 12:28:59 GMT
I have.been critical of him but thought he really tried yesterday . I wouldn't be surprised to see wrinkly woy take him to Palace and get him scoring again . I'd start him tomorrow with Choupo and Shaq they at least have the brain to pass the ball early . I'd also play Adam if he is fit with Cameron and Allen in Midfield
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Post by scfc75 on Dec 31, 2017 12:33:06 GMT
I have.been critical of him but thought he really tried yesterday . I wouldn't be surprised to see wrinkly woy take him to Palace and get him scoring again . I'd start him tomorrow with Choupo and Shaq they at least have the brain to pass the ball early . I'd also play Adam if he is fit with Cameron and Allen in Midfield I've said for ages now, stick him in a team that breaks at pace, like Palace or Leicester, and he'd score plenty. Ian Wright's analysis was proof that he's always looking to run off the last man, whilst our midfield pisses about with a fifteenth back pass.
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Post by cousindupree on Dec 31, 2017 12:34:38 GMT
Hughes's fault Systems fault Fletcher's fault Other players fault Playing him in the 'wrong' game i.e. needs games against shite teams ...I am sure posters have suggested more. Fletcher in his interview pre-season nailed it with his comments about Berahino...'It's always someone elses fault with Saido'. Premier League is ruthless and unforgiving. Berahino clearly is not up to the task. Why did we buy him? Well it remains one of the nails in Hughes's coffin.
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Berahino
Dec 31, 2017 12:37:25 GMT
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 31, 2017 12:37:25 GMT
Hughes's fault Systems fault Fletcher's fault Other players fault Playing him in the 'wrong' game i.e. needs games against shite teams ...I am sure posters have suggested more. Fletcher in his interview pre-season nailed it with his comments about Berahino...'It's always someone elses fault with Saido'. Premier League is ruthless and unforgiving. Berahino clearly is not up to the task. Why did we buy him? Well it remains one of the nails in Hughes's coffin. Rich coming from Fletcher. He is absolute fucking shit and it is probably his fault entirely that we have concede so many goals, leaving a gaping hole in the pitch where he is supposed to be closing down space. I know who I would rather give another chance to. Goodbye Darren
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Post by Fred Merger on Dec 31, 2017 12:37:52 GMT
Hughes's fault Systems fault Fletcher's fault Other players fault Playing him in the 'wrong' game i.e. needs games against shite teams ...I am sure posters have suggested more. Fletcher in his interview pre-season nailed it with his comments about Berahino...'It's always someone elses fault with Saido'. Premier League is ruthless and unforgiving. Berahino clearly is not up to the task. Why did we buy him? Well it remains one of the nails in Hughes's coffin. Fletcher needs to get a grip with his own game before he talks about other players. He has been as culpable as any this season in a large number of goals conceded,and you just know we will have to suffer him starting again tomorrow!
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Berahino
Dec 31, 2017 12:45:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 12:45:10 GMT
.........jack......... New....kurt....BMI..erik Shaq...allen..new..rama ......saido... diouf...
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Berahino
Dec 31, 2017 12:46:40 GMT
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Post by Block 22 on Dec 31, 2017 12:46:40 GMT
Hughes's fault Systems fault Fletcher's fault Other players fault Playing him in the 'wrong' game i.e. needs games against shite teams ...I am sure posters have suggested more. Fletcher in his interview pre-season nailed it with his comments about Berahino...'It's always someone elses fault with Saido'. Premier League is ruthless and unforgiving. Berahino clearly is not up to the task. Why did we buy him? Well it remains one of the nails in Hughes's coffin. Give him the ball in the box and a run of games to get match sharp and he will score plenty. The evidence is there from his time at West Brom. Until he gets a run of games in the right system with the right formation and service you cannot doubt his ability, as he’s proven once already that, at this level he can score. Cristiano Ronaldo wouldn’t fucking score in this team. Also quite laughable regarding Fletchers comments considering when he first joined Stoke Fletcher spoke out and said how clinical he was and what a great player he was to work with IF given the chances. Come on Darren, which one?
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 31, 2017 12:54:45 GMT
Hughes's fault Systems fault Fletcher's fault Other players fault Playing him in the 'wrong' game i.e. needs games against shite teams ...I am sure posters have suggested more. Fletcher in his interview pre-season nailed it with his comments about Berahino...'It's always someone elses fault with Saido'. Premier League is ruthless and unforgiving. Berahino clearly is not up to the task. Why did we buy him? Well it remains one of the nails in Hughes's coffin. Rich coming from Fletcher. He is absolute fucking shit and it is probably his fault entirely that we have concede so many goals, leaving a gaping hole in the pitch where he is supposed to be closing down space. I know who I would rather give another chance to. Goodbye Darren When we signed Fletcher I questioned if he still had the legs for this League, I got slated as usual by the Oatcake massive, they appear to have gone very quiet since.
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Post by 99problems on Dec 31, 2017 12:58:32 GMT
I’m sorry but you don’t just lose this overnight. Still honestly believe the guy will score goals if played in the right system. Just play Shaqiri in the number 10 behind him FFS! Playing the ball to him and support him with other player movement may not be a terrible idea.
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Berahino
Dec 31, 2017 12:59:23 GMT
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Post by 99problems on Dec 31, 2017 12:59:23 GMT
Rich coming from Fletcher. He is absolute fucking shit and it is probably his fault entirely that we have concede so many goals, leaving a gaping hole in the pitch where he is supposed to be closing down space. I know who I would rather give another chance to. Goodbye Darren When we signed Fletcher I questioned if he still had the legs for this League, I got slated as usual by the Oatcake massive, they appear to have gone very quiet since. He's a liability for sure. Seems to lose possession an awful lot.
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Post by miggoscfc on Jan 1, 2018 10:21:56 GMT
Rich coming from Fletcher. He is absolute fucking shit and it is probably his fault entirely that we have concede so many goals, leaving a gaping hole in the pitch where he is supposed to be closing down space. I know who I would rather give another chance to. Goodbye Darren When we signed Fletcher I questioned if he still had the legs for this League, I got slated as usual by the Oatcake massive, they appear to have gone very quiet since. In all fairness after fletch s first 2 or 3 appearances he looked like the bargain of the summer. My West Brom supporting mate had told me his legs were gone when we signed him but I rebuffed him after those appearances but he's quickly gone downhill. He needs dropping.
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Post by miggoscfc on Jan 1, 2018 10:33:49 GMT
Personally I'd stick with him. We have 3 options based on the system we play.
1. Crouch - most likely to play, we will hoof balls up to him all day in hopes of the ball falling kindly to Choupo Shaq or Allen all of whom seem to get no where near him due to sitting too deep. Might get us 3 points but it won't be pretty.
2. Bera - played some neat football at Chelsea held the ball up well and made some great runs which were missed but understandable given that we had none of our creative players on the field. Would love to see him play with Shaq in the no10 role but risky given his lack of goals.
3. Choupo - my least favourite option. Looks lost when playing as the main striker and seems to be coming more into form playing on the left. We seem to be willing to play a more attractive game with him but moves break down as he doesn't have the instincts of a striker to make those runs of the defender or hold the ball up particularly well.
Just for the sake of my sanity in watching us play hoof ball again I'd go with the Bera option with crouch on the bench but if we don't play Shaq in the middle it would be pointless.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 1, 2018 13:37:46 GMT
Telegraph again saying he won't be loaned out, which seems odd. I'd love to know what the plan is. www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/01/01/premier-league-transfers-club-by-club-guide-january-2018-window/Stoke City Will they be busy? Mark Hughes' position as manager remains precarious and he wants two or three signings to strengthen his squad. Money will not be significant and any moves are likely to be loans. In need of This Stoke squad still requires freshening up and Hughes wants a creative midfielder, striker and right-back. Liverpool's Danny Ings is a loan option while there is interest in Augsburg's Daniel Opare. Shipping out Stoke are set to offload former England defender Glen Johnson, possibly on a free transfer, and Charlie Adam may move for more regular game time. Saido Berahino will not be allowed out on loan.
Unexpected solution Morgan Schneiderlin from Everton on loan would offer some energy in midfield.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2018 13:41:36 GMT
Daniel Opare is a great option. If Jese's family move to England Opare can help Mrs Rodriguez look after the baby.
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Berahino
Jan 1, 2018 18:24:57 GMT
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 1, 2018 18:24:57 GMT
Not much time in the pitch but again didn't seem up to it.
Diouf seemed to be much better and more of a threat.
Also did Berahino also call one of his teammates "a fucking twat" as mentioned on the match thread?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 1, 2018 18:26:34 GMT
Not much time in the pitch but again didn't seem up to it. Diouf seemed to be much better and more of a threat. Also did Berahino also call one of his teammates "a fucking twat" as mentioned on the match thread? He sure did. Aimed in the direction of wimmer I believe.
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Post by march4 on Jan 1, 2018 18:29:59 GMT
Yet another shocking performance from the lad.
He should be nowhere near the first team squad.
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Berahino
Jan 1, 2018 18:35:03 GMT
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jan 1, 2018 18:35:03 GMT
Not much time in the pitch but again didn't seem up to it. Diouf seemed to be much better and more of a threat. Also did Berahino also call one of his teammates "a fucking twat" as mentioned on the match thread? He sure did. Aimed in the direction of wimmer I believe. Thanks. That's shocking (although many might agree with him) Are the players starting to give up
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 1, 2018 18:36:45 GMT
Not much time in the pitch but again didn't seem up to it. Diouf seemed to be much better and more of a threat. Also did Berahino also call one of his teammates "a fucking twat" as mentioned on the match thread? He needs the ball played along the floor for him to run onto, not a guessing game where Crouch might flick the ball too, its shocking football.
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Berahino
Jan 1, 2018 18:38:17 GMT
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Post by estp1863 on Jan 1, 2018 18:38:17 GMT
Yet another shocking performance from the lad. He should be nowhere near the first team squad. Hughes lost us that game with his subs, it was crying out from early on for berahino there instead of crouch. After his performance v chelsea He should have started we had no movement up top with crouch. He brought him on and went 442 with Adam's tiring legs in midfield. The plank should of started as we did with Berahino up top and Adam with fresh legs so he could pick passes for berahino to move onto. We were static upfront with crouch.
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