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Berahino
Dec 30, 2017 23:31:31 GMT
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 30, 2017 23:31:31 GMT
I'm not going to post the video of his career goals to date yet again. But clearly this is a naturally gifted player. He has superb technique and he is a natural goalscorer. His confidence is shot but this season whenever he has played he has shown an excellent touch and his movement is top notch. But he needs two things 1. Faith from his manager 2. To be played in a system which suits him, I.e with a striker up top alongside him to create a bit if space. I agree whole heartedly with this. Hes not had many chances to play but when he has, hes been decent in my opinion and has certainly showed some quality. Recently we have tried Diouf up front in a two with Crouch and it has been awful, apart from the swansea game. In future when reverting to a two up front we have to try Berahino with either Crouch or Diouf. With the latter we can still revert to 3-4-3 or 4-2-3-1 in play. Frankly, Berahino will do no worse as the lone striker in those formations than crouch or diouf have been doing. There is no reason not to give him an extended run. He looks sharp to me. He's on the cusp of getting going again.
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Berahino
Dec 30, 2017 23:35:36 GMT
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Post by Ex-term-oat-cake on Dec 30, 2017 23:35:36 GMT
Shearer and Wright nailed it on Match of the Day. Saido is working hard to get into dangerous positions but never receives the through ball. Heaps of examples pointed out on MOTD how Fletcher failed to play him through. Adam did once, and sure enough a shot on target was registered. A few more like that and Saido will be banging them in for fun. But shorn if confidence and support from his manager we can’t expect much. Another reason to change the manager. The missed opportunity second half to put Saido in from Fletcher was criminal.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 30, 2017 23:38:03 GMT
I agree whole heartedly with this. Hes not had many chances to play but when he has, hes been decent in my opinion and has certainly showed some quality. Recently we have tried Diouf up front in a two with Crouch and it has been awful, apart from the swansea game. In future when reverting to a two up front we have to try Berahino with either Crouch or Diouf. With the latter we can still revert to 3-4-3 or 4-2-3-1 in play. Frankly, Berahino will do no worse as the lone striker in those formations than crouch or diouf have been doing. There is no reason not to give him an extended run. He looks sharp to me. He's on the cusp of getting going again. I don't necessarily think he needs to be in a 2 either. His hold up play and ability to bring others into play has been surprisingly good. With Shaq, choupo and Adam in the team with him, you have to think he'd get more chances.
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Berahino
Dec 30, 2017 23:40:41 GMT
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Post by superleft on Dec 30, 2017 23:40:41 GMT
The key word there being 'currently' He isn't fundamentally shit otherwise he wouldn't be where he is. Equally what you see with your own eyes includes how his teammates assist him. It's a team game to state the obvious. He can't do it on his own, and if he could every so often he wouldn't be at stoke anyway. Yes I agree, currently, however I don't buy this teammates letting him down line. Choupo has scored so are the team providing him with "preferential" service? No, but the management are. Both in terms of the tactics, and the amount of game time choupo has enjoyed, so it doesn't surprise me he's netted a couple.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 23:40:41 GMT
Shearer and Wright nailed it on Match of the Day. Saido is working hard to get into dangerous positions but never receives the through ball. Heaps of examples pointed out on MOTD how Fletcher failed to play him through. Adam did once, and sure enough a shot on target was registered. A few more like that and Saido will be banging them in for fun. But shorn if confidence and support from his manager we can’t expect much. Another reason to change the manager. The missed opportunity second half to put Saido in from Fletcher was criminal. Yep. He just reminds me of Steino with how he looks to get in behind. Play him more in the formation we currently play with Shaq, Choupo and Sohbi around him and he will score goals I am absolutely certain about that
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 23:42:43 GMT
Bloody hell, 12 pages, largely praising Berahino's efforts after another decent display today? Some realisation that he's maybe a decent player, that needs a Bony-esque run of games to get going?
It's nailed-on that he'll start Crouch on Monday isn't it??
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Post by BuzzB on Dec 30, 2017 23:47:35 GMT
Bloody hell, 12 pages, largely praising Berahino's efforts after another decent display today? Some realisation that he's maybe a decent player, that needs a Bony-esque run of games to get going? It's nailed-on that he'll start Crouch on Monday isn't it?? nowt so certain!
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 31, 2017 0:01:55 GMT
Shearer and Wright nailed it on Match of the Day. Saido is working hard to get into dangerous positions but never receives the through ball. Heaps of examples pointed out on MOTD how Fletcher failed to play him through. Adam did once, and sure enough a shot on target was registered. A few more like that and Saido will be banging them in for fun. But shorn if confidence and /support from his manager we can’t expect much. Another reason to change the manager. The missed opportunity second half to put Saido in from Fletcher was criminal. Something not quite right there between Fletcher and Berahino,I wonder if it's to do from their time at West Brom?
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Dec 31, 2017 0:12:12 GMT
Butland
Edwards Zouma Wimmer Pieters
Allen Cameron Adam
Shaq. Berahino Choupo
In this formation Choupo gets up with Saido as much as possible and creates the space for him. Full backs provide the width with Cameron stepping into the back line when they bomb forward.
We have to give Berahino a chance, he could be the goalscorer we have been waiting for
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Berahino
Dec 31, 2017 0:20:47 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 31, 2017 0:20:47 GMT
Shearer and Wright nailed it on Match of the Day. Saido is working hard to get into dangerous positions but never receives the through ball. Heaps of examples pointed out on MOTD how Fletcher failed to play him through. Adam did once, and sure enough a shot on target was registered. A few more like that and Saido will be banging them in for fun. But shorn if confidence and /support from his manager we can’t expect much. Another reason to change the manager. The missed opportunity second half to put Saido in from Fletcher was criminal. Something not quite right there between Fletcher and Berahino,I wonder if it's to do from their time at West Brom? Nothing at all to do with anything of that nature. Fletcher is simply crap. If the MOTD highlights showed anything it was just how bad Fletcher and wimmer are.
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Post by Sfance on Dec 31, 2017 0:30:44 GMT
i don't have this many bridges to sell you people, but I know a guy who has a bunch more in storage. I'll give him a ring tomorrow and then you can line up. Like I said before, they're very cheap, reasonably well-made, and guaranteed to appreciate in value faster than your favorite "striker" . . . . Yes, I know, this offer defies belief, but if I didn't think you were the right kind of customers, I wouldn't be offering it to you.
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Post by toppercorner on Dec 31, 2017 0:38:19 GMT
i was there
he was always looking for the balls and making runs
just hughes decided not to play anyone who could provide him - hung out to dry
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Post by Sfance on Dec 31, 2017 0:44:20 GMT
I bet he can play darts too.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 31, 2017 0:45:35 GMT
I'm not going to post the video of his career goals to date yet again. But clearly this is a naturally gifted player. He has superb technique and he is a natural goalscorer. His confidence is shot but this season whenever he has played he has shown an excellent touch and his movement is top notch. But he needs two things 1. Faith from his manager 2. To be played in a system which suits him, I.e with a striker up top alongside him to create a bit if space. I'm not convinced he needs a striker next to him, I think if he has the right players behind him playing the right balls (clearly not fletcher) he'll do well.
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Post by Sfance on Dec 31, 2017 0:58:44 GMT
And you think this because?
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Post by thisfootballclub on Dec 31, 2017 1:04:32 GMT
Chased him for years and when eventually singing him (despite serous alarm bells ringing in the public eye never mind private) says he's doesn't fit the system!
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Post by Sfance on Dec 31, 2017 1:04:46 GMT
Because . . . errr . . . . errr . . . wait, give me a couple more minutes. . . .
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 31, 2017 1:27:27 GMT
You can't have formed any further impression of Berahino today than you had before.
Today, Hughes hung him out to dry like a pair of of pensioners pissy knickers.
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Berahino
Dec 31, 2017 1:40:37 GMT
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Post by fazza90 on Dec 31, 2017 1:40:37 GMT
i was there he was always looking for the balls and making runs just hughes decided not to play anyone who could provide him - hung out to dry Adam put him through with a sensational pass, he had one chance and missed.
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Post by Sfance on Dec 31, 2017 1:47:52 GMT
Behold, and sing the praises of the striker who could not strike - because it's always some else's fault. A great gig if you can get it.
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Post by wapiti on Dec 31, 2017 2:03:38 GMT
He was a sulking whiny little shit at West Brom under Tony and today I saw him one on one with the goalie and he couldn't lift the ball over him......Arnie would have scored.
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Berahino
Dec 31, 2017 7:43:25 GMT
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Post by nutterpotter on Dec 31, 2017 7:43:25 GMT
i was there he was always looking for the balls and making runs just hughes decided not to play anyone who could provide him - hung out to dry Adam put him through with a sensational pass, he had one chance and missed. Wow. He didn't have a 100% conversion rate. Imagine that! How many chances did Morata have?
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Post by harryburrows on Dec 31, 2017 7:48:39 GMT
Chased him for years and when eventually singing him (despite serous alarm bells ringing in the public eye never mind private) says he's doesn't fit the system! We have a system?????
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Berahino
Dec 31, 2017 7:52:17 GMT
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Post by Ex-term-oat-cake on Dec 31, 2017 7:52:17 GMT
I think I’ve cracked Hughes’ system.
You have to be unfit to play.
So last season, Saido gets games. He gets fit over the summer and...
Guess what... no games. Too fit.
Hughes likes it slow and ponderous. Thinks it confuses the opposition.
It confuses the f*ck out of me.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Dec 31, 2017 8:46:26 GMT
No because he’s actually scored some goals in the past 2 years. Next excuse? Is it possible that playing for Chelsea & the service he is getting might help just a tad? How do you think he'd of done today for stoke in Berahinos position? I reckon he would have finished the one-on-one. So 1 more goal than Berahino scored
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Berahino
Dec 31, 2017 8:58:06 GMT
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Post by mickmacc on Dec 31, 2017 8:58:06 GMT
Bloody hell, 12 pages, largely praising Berahino's efforts after another decent display today? Some realisation that he's maybe a decent player, that needs a Bony-esque run of games to get going? It's nailed-on that he'll start Crouch on Monday isn't it?? God I hope so
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Berahino
Dec 31, 2017 8:59:23 GMT
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Post by mickmacc on Dec 31, 2017 8:59:23 GMT
i was there he was always looking for the balls and making runs just hughes decided not to play anyone who could provide him - hung out to dry Adam put him through with a sensational pass, he had one chance and missed. THIRTY SEVEN games without a goal and counting. Not having s fault though of course
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Post by clarkeda on Dec 31, 2017 9:08:21 GMT
He was a sulking whiny little shit at West Brom under Tony and today I saw him one on one with the goalie and he couldn't lift the ball over him......Arnie would have scored. Not convinced, people seem to forget how atrocious arnie’s finishing was at times.
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Berahino
Dec 31, 2017 9:09:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 9:09:12 GMT
Bloody hell, 12 pages, largely praising Berahino's efforts after another decent display today? Some realisation that he's maybe a decent player, that needs a Bony-esque run of games to get going? It's nailed-on that he'll start Crouch on Monday isn't it?? God I hope so God I hope that's sarcasm
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Dec 31, 2017 9:48:24 GMT
He was a sulking whiny little shit at West Brom under Tony and today I saw him one on one with the goalie and he couldn't lift the ball over him......Arnie would have scored. Think your remembering Arnie with rose tinted specs at times his finishing was awful and went high over the crossbar.
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