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Post by WorkingclassHero on Dec 24, 2017 10:01:13 GMT
Seriously underrated player.
If we keep a back four with him and Allen in front of it. The old Pulis cage if you want and stick any four of our offensive players around it.
Shaq
Cheap Motel
Crouch
Diouf
Crouch
Jese
Saido
We will have enough to stay up this season barring injuries.
Then we need some new impetus in the summer. We have regressed badly in the last 18 months and seemingly have no long term strategy, and a rather haphazard player recruitment philosophy.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Dec 24, 2017 11:13:05 GMT
Show how far we have regressed when we are desparate for geoff in the middle, now dont get me wrong this is not a pop at geoff, it just shows how poor our recruitment has been over the last two years.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2017 11:15:07 GMT
He's a steady Eddie is Geoff. Gets about, puts his foot in, I like him as a player.
Looks shit without a beard though.
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Post by wuzza on Dec 24, 2017 11:16:18 GMT
I wouldn’t go as far as to say he makes the difference , largely because I don’t think there was much difference yesterday , but he helps things a bit.
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Post by Fred Merger on Dec 24, 2017 11:19:32 GMT
Well even a bollard has more legs than Fletcher!
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Post by Dr Hesham on Dec 24, 2017 11:33:26 GMT
Fletcher is tired he was transparent in the last 3 games
Allen is perfect but he has tendency to attack more than to defend
Your defense is already bad
So you need a player like Cameron to add energy to your midfielders and to protect your defense.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 24, 2017 11:41:42 GMT
Fletcher is tired he was transparent in the last 3 games Allen is perfect but he has tendency to attack more than to defend Your defense is already bad So you need a player like Cameron to add energy to your midfielders and to protect your defense. Have you ever considered taking up football management Doc., we have a vacancy for a manager who has not lost the ability to use common sense  |
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Post by JC9 on Dec 24, 2017 11:42:02 GMT
Fantastic yesterday. GCam and Allen should be the midfield 2 as Fletcher is poor lately and can't last 90 minutes.
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Post by zigazaga on Dec 24, 2017 11:42:38 GMT
We allways play better with him in the team.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 24, 2017 12:27:07 GMT
He played well but we need much better than him and Allen.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Dec 24, 2017 12:27:52 GMT
Fletcher is tired he was transparent in the last 3 games Allen is perfect but he has tendency to attack more than to defend Your defense is already bad So you need a player like Cameron to add energy to your midfielders and to protect your defense. Have you ever considered taking up football management Doc., we have a vacancy for a manager who has not lost the ability to use common sense Hahaha Thanks, absolutely it will be better than Medicine Many people here said that about need for Cameron, I have to mention TexasPotter in that, but Hughes only listen to his voice |
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 24, 2017 12:37:27 GMT
Have you ever considered taking up football management Doc., we have a vacancy for a manager who has not lost the ability to use common sense Hahaha Thanks, absolutely it will be better than Medicine Many people here said that about need for Cameron, I have to mention TexasPotter in that, but Hughes only listen to his voice I think it may be the voices in his head that are the problem, they keep agreeing with him he really seems to believe the crap he comes out with. |
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 24, 2017 12:39:42 GMT
He played well but we need much better than him and Allen. He provided some mobility which negated some of Fletchers weekly fuck up's, how Hughes can not see that fletcher is a massive issue god knows. |
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Post by Dr Hesham on Dec 24, 2017 12:54:46 GMT
Hahaha Thanks, absolutely it will be better than Medicine Many people here said that about need for Cameron, I have to mention TexasPotter in that, but Hughes only listen to his voice I think it may be the voices in his head that are the problem, they keep agreeing with him he really seems to believe the crap he comes out with. I think he will write in his resume, I am a manager who can play with players out of their position perfectly, I have played with Diouf as RB, Ramadan as LB, Jese as Striker,Cameron as RB and more. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 24, 2017 13:27:07 GMT
He played well but we need much better than him and Allen. He provided some mobility which negated some of Fletchers weekly fuck up's, how Hughes can not see that fletcher is a massive issue god knows. He did and he was neat and tidy on the ball too to his credit. He did have one moment of stupidity which resulted in the Butland save but overall he did well and needs to stay in there until some better players hopefully arrive. |
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Post by clarkeda on Dec 24, 2017 14:22:12 GMT
He provided some mobility which negated some of Fletchers weekly fuck up's, how Hughes can not see that fletcher is a massive issue god knows. He did and he was neat and tidy on the ball too to his credit. He did have one moment of stupidity which resulted in the Butland save but overall he did well and needs to stay in there until some better players hopefully arrive. Bayern praising Cameron, it’s a Christmas miracle. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 24, 2017 14:26:57 GMT
He did and he was neat and tidy on the ball too to his credit. He did have one moment of stupidity which resulted in the Butland save but overall he did well and needs to stay in there until some better players hopefully arrive. Bayern praising Cameron, it’s a Christmas miracle. Why? I've always said he was a midfielder. |
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Post by crownmeking on Dec 24, 2017 14:30:25 GMT
He provided some mobility which negated some of Fletchers weekly fuck up's, how Hughes can not see that fletcher is a massive issue god knows. He did and he was neat and tidy on the ball too to his credit. He did have one moment of stupidity which resulted in the Butland save but overall he did well and needs to stay in there until some better players hopefully arrive. You feeling ok buddy?  |
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Post by WhyDelilah on Dec 24, 2017 14:33:00 GMT
He played well but we need much better than him and Allen. We've been better with him in the team for years now. You keep saying he's not good enough but year on year he proves you wrong. |
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Post by pistol on Dec 24, 2017 14:33:05 GMT
I really don't understand why Cameron isn't given more respect as a player by Stoke fans. I have always liked him. He is athletic, gets about the pitch, strong, can pass and is an excellent professional.
Is it cos he's American? Is it because he's been played in several different roles and never had opportunity to nail one down?
I think he's been a great signing for Stoke
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2017 14:33:06 GMT
Seriously underrated player. If we keep a back four with him and Allen in front of it. The old Pulis cage if you want and stick any four of our offensive players around it. Shaq Cheap Motel Crouch Diouf Crouch Jese Saido We will have enough to stay up this season barring injuries. Then we need some new impetus in the summer. We have regressed badly in the last 18 months and seemingly have no long term strategy, and a rather haphazard player recruitment philosophy. Cheap Motel? Is that the player that won us the game yesterday? |
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Post by Malex on Dec 24, 2017 14:58:39 GMT
Thought he had a very good game yesterday.
He's always been quite decent at shielding the defence and also nicking the ball off the opposition and he also helps us have a bit more mobility in the middle.
I think he's got a pretty decent reading of the game and often seems to be making timely interceptions, breaking down opposition attacks and generally doing a lot of the hard graft and dirty work which can go unnoticed.
Having said that, he's far from technically gifted. He's not going to go on lung busting runs driving us forward and he's not going to spray the ball about and place it on a sixpence for the forwards/wide players.
Whilst an upgrade would be nice, someone that can do what he does but also do more with the ball, I'd say it's more important to find the right fit for who to play next to him instead of upgrading him for now. Fletcher shouldn't be starting at the moment, Affelay might be ok for a game or two until he gets injured again and Allen, whilst also having great mobility and tenacity and being my preferred choice, can sometimes lack the discipline required for the role.
Seems more of a sad reflection of our transfer strategy that he's arguably our best centre mid at present. Any 'upgrade' on him that we signed would be best partnering him in a midfield two rather than replacing him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 24, 2017 15:02:49 GMT
He played well but we need much better than him and Allen. We've been better with him in the team for years now. You keep saying he's not good enough but year on year he proves you wrong. He's a shit right back. Back up CB And rotation midfielder. He shouldn't be starting regularly for a PL football club. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 24, 2017 15:03:25 GMT
I really don't understand why Cameron isn't given more respect as a player by Stoke fans. I have always liked him. He is athletic, gets about the pitch, strong, can pass and is an excellent professional. Is it cos he's American? Is it because he's been played in several different roles and never had opportunity to nail one down? I think he's been a great signing for Stoke It's because he's an atrocious footballer. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2017 15:07:06 GMT
Cameron has always been a better midfielder than anywhere else. He's a perfect mid to lower Premier League midfielder because he has all the physical attributes. Essentially though, we have replaced Steven N'Zonzi with Geoff Cameron. That is pretty much why we are where we are. Poor to non existent transfer business in a key area of the pitch.
People that say Cameron needs replacing are both harsh and correct. Harsh because he's come in this season and improved the side but correct because we ultimately needed far better when N'Zonzi left. Imbula was the obvious replacement but it turns out we might as well have spent 18M on Pete the Milkman.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 24, 2017 15:34:29 GMT
Completely agree.
It's his best position and are a much better team with him there.
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Post by harryburrows on Dec 24, 2017 15:40:47 GMT
I really don't understand why Cameron isn't given more respect as a player by Stoke fans. I have always liked him. He is athletic, gets about the pitch, strong, can pass and is an excellent professional. Is it cos he's American? Is it because he's been played in several different roles and never had opportunity to nail one down? I think he's been a great signing for Stoke It's because he's an atrocious footballer. That really is bollocks , turn the clock back 12 months we were shipping goals for fun , Cameron returned after his long absence and there was a dramatic improvement in the teams performance. Cameron doesn't get the credit he deserves. |
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Post by Northy on Dec 24, 2017 16:07:58 GMT
I really don't understand why Cameron isn't given more respect as a player by Stoke fans. I have always liked him. He is athletic, gets about the pitch, strong, can pass and is an excellent professional. Is it cos he's American? Is it because he's been played in several different roles and never had opportunity to nail one down? I think he's been a great signing for Stoke It's because he's an atrocious footballer. Atrocious? Have a word with yourself, he's in a PL squad and played for his country, surely that would make him just shit in your vocabularly of footballers ability? |
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 24, 2017 16:10:19 GMT
He’s so fast going forward and can intercept with ease, excellent position for him it’s a pity Hughes didn’t get in more help at cb sooner to keep Geoff in front of Ryan to help on defense and then go forward on attack.
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 24, 2017 16:13:14 GMT
I really don't understand why Cameron isn't given more respect as a player by Stoke fans. I have always liked him. He is athletic, gets about the pitch, strong, can pass and is an excellent professional. Is it cos he's American? Is it because he's been played in several different roles and never had opportunity to nail one down? I think he's been a great signing for Stoke He’s also been incredibly loyal and a team player. We’re lucky to have him as we need him to help the transition to more youth. |
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