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Post by cheekymatt71 on Dec 24, 2017 16:16:50 GMT
I really don't understand why Cameron isn't given more respect as a player by Stoke fans. I have always liked him. He is athletic, gets about the pitch, strong, can pass and is an excellent professional. Is it cos he's American? Is it because he's been played in several different roles and never had opportunity to nail one down? I think he's been a great signing for Stoke It's because he's an atrocious footballer. Bayern Oatcake trying to be contrary as always. On a related context dont you think Wimmer is a decent player? Kind of proves the point you just want to be different for the sake of being different as you cant honestly believe that. Geoff is a solid player for us and we play better with him in the team. Atrocious he is not
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Post by WhyDelilah on Dec 24, 2017 16:19:34 GMT
We've been better with him in the team for years now. You keep saying he's not good enough but year on year he proves you wrong. He's a shit right back. Back up CB And rotation midfielder. He shouldn't be starting regularly for a PL football club. But he does. And has done so consistently for years.
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Post by Dingdangdoo on Dec 24, 2017 16:33:10 GMT
He’s under rated
At one point yesterday he threaded a great ball through to Choupo on the left. Unfortunately the move broke down and West Brom quickly released the ball over to the opposite wing. Cameron had already got back to cover
A great athlete!!
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Post by iglugluk on Dec 24, 2017 17:24:32 GMT
Has always been a decent squad rotation option, as far as I'm concerned......plus he's no spring chicken. I'm not knocking him and are glad we still have him ( and haven't sold him to Burnley :/ ) .... but.... The fact we need to, now, rely on him is testament to the criminal approach that the club and its manager taken to successive transfer windows.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 24, 2017 17:33:24 GMT
It's because he's an atrocious footballer. That really is bollocks , turn the clock back 12 months we were shipping goals for fun , Cameron returned after his long absence and there was a dramatic improvement in the teams performance. Cameron doesn't get the credit he deserves. He can't pass wind nevermind a football. If you want Hughes sacked and Cameron in the team then you're part of the problem.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 24, 2017 17:35:40 GMT
It's because he's an atrocious footballer. Bayern Oatcake trying to be contrary as always. On a related context dont you think Wimmer is a decent player? Kind of proves the point you just want to be different for the sake of being different as you cant honestly believe that. Geoff is a solid player for us and we play better with him in the team. Atrocious he is not Why can't you? According to most on here I was being contrary for the sake of it when I wanted Hughes out a year or two ago. So that's just bollocks quite frankly. Wimmer is a good player who isn't fit.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 24, 2017 17:39:15 GMT
Bayern Oatcake trying to be contrary as always. On a related context dont you think Wimmer is a decent player? Kind of proves the point you just want to be different for the sake of being different as you cant honestly believe that. Geoff is a solid player for us and we play better with him in the team. Atrocious he is not Why can't you? According to most on here I was being contrary for the sake of it when I wanted Hughes out a year or two ago. So that's just bollocks quite frankly. Wimmer is a good player who isn't fit. Is he carrying an injury that hasn't been reported then? If so I can forgive him for being a tub of lard but if not this is as "fit" as Mr Wimmer will ever be.
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Post by iglugluk on Dec 24, 2017 17:39:40 GMT
Bayern Oatcake trying to be contrary as always. On a related context dont you think Wimmer is a decent player? Kind of proves the point you just want to be different for the sake of being different as you cant honestly believe that. Geoff is a solid player for us and we play better with him in the team. Atrocious he is not Why can't you? According to most on here I was being contrary for the sake of it when I wanted Hughes out a year or two ago. So that's just bollocks quite frankly. Wimmer is a good player who isn't fit. When Wimmer heads the ball and it just goes straight up in the air then lands about 2 foot away from him.....is that caused by his lack of fitness?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 24, 2017 17:43:00 GMT
Why can't you? According to most on here I was being contrary for the sake of it when I wanted Hughes out a year or two ago. So that's just bollocks quite frankly. Wimmer is a good player who isn't fit. Is he carrying an injury that hasn't been reported then? If so I can forgive him for being a tub of lard but if not this is as "fit" as Mr Wimmer will ever be. He didn't have a full pre season, got injuries when he came here and was then rushed back. He needs time and patience.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 24, 2017 17:43:40 GMT
Why can't you? According to most on here I was being contrary for the sake of it when I wanted Hughes out a year or two ago. So that's just bollocks quite frankly. Wimmer is a good player who isn't fit. When Wimmer heads the ball and it just goes straight up in the air then lands about 2 foot away from him.....is that caused by his lack of fitness? It's because he's pretty shite in the air! 😂😂
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 24, 2017 17:44:24 GMT
Is he carrying an injury that hasn't been reported then? If so I can forgive him for being a tub of lard but if not this is as "fit" as Mr Wimmer will ever be. He didn't have a full pre season, got injuries when he came here and was then rushed back. He needs time and patience. I'm willing to give him my time but he looked this cumbersome when he was at Spurs.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Dec 24, 2017 17:47:12 GMT
Was Cameron that good yesterday? West Brom seemed able to roll the ball into the feet of their front men at will, I don't think he did a great job of shielding the back two. He was better at breaking up play further forward but our defending in midfield was poor though maybe Fletcher contributed to this, we looked better when Allen dropped deeper. However why Crouch didn't go off for Diouf and Sobhi come on for Fletcher are hard for me to fathom, Allen, Cameron and Shaq seems to have what a midfield three should have
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Post by Miles Offside on Dec 24, 2017 17:56:00 GMT
Show how far we have regressed when we are desparate for geoff in the middle, now dont get me wrong this is not a pop at geoff, it just shows how poor our recruitment has been over the last two years. You're spot on. In fact, three Geoff Cameron's would be useful - RB, CB, CDM
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Post by pistol on Dec 24, 2017 18:06:09 GMT
I really don't understand why Cameron isn't given more respect as a player by Stoke fans. I have always liked him. He is athletic, gets about the pitch, strong, can pass and is an excellent professional. Is it cos he's American? Is it because he's been played in several different roles and never had opportunity to nail one down? I think he's been a great signing for Stoke It's because he's an atrocious footballer. Well that’s just bollocks
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Post by harryburrows on Dec 24, 2017 18:16:01 GMT
That really is bollocks , turn the clock back 12 months we were shipping goals for fun , Cameron returned after his long absence and there was a dramatic improvement in the teams performance. Cameron doesn't get the credit he deserves. He can't pass wind nevermind a football. If you want Hughes sacked and Cameron in the team then you're part of the problem. Well I guess I am then , happy Christmas eberneezer
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