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Post by numpty40 on Dec 17, 2017 20:26:49 GMT
Tighten the midfield, four at the back and keep Wimmer as far away from the squad as possible. I'd go with a 4-4-1-1 with Sobhi hugging either touchline.
Jack
Edwards Ryan Cameron Pieters
Allen Adam Affelay Sobhi
Shaq
Diouf.
When BMI or Zouma become fit then push Cameron into midfield instead of Adam. We have to bolster that centre midfield.
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Post by march4 on Dec 17, 2017 20:41:37 GMT
1 Four hours running up and down Trentham Hills every day BEFORE training 2 Introduce 4411 for all teams at the club
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 18, 2017 10:03:04 GMT
Chauffeur Shaqiri everywhere, open every single door for him, piggy back him up every single stair case he goes up.
That one injury could be the final nail in the coffin.
Disgusting when not too long back he was the lesser of a 3 with Arnie and bojan both able to do something, even expecting them too before Shaqiri did.
Now we are relying on a guy with an elastic band like hamstring to keep us out of trouble
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Dec 18, 2017 10:48:12 GMT
1. Not let Bojan and Muni go out on loan. These lads are not the answer to our prayers but they are alternate options to the crap we have. 2. Not sell Bardsley and offer Johnson a new contract, this was mind boggling decision by Hughes & co. 3. Not spent a combined £36 million on Imbula and Wimmer. 4. Not have bought Berahino if I wasn't going to play him. 5. Not persevered with a system that blatantly doesn't work and sees us ship goals like it's going out of fashion. 6. Would've ditched zonal marking. 7. I would stop talking bollocks to the press, fans can see through the bullshit. 8. I would give Tom Edwards a run of games rather than toying with the lad. 9. Would've strengthened a full backs during transfer windows.
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 18, 2017 11:03:06 GMT
Go back to man marking for a start Why? Do you think we defend better that way? Combination of zonal and man marking is the way forward. Man Utd conceded twice against Man City due to man marking errors, yet nobody said anything. Zonal gets bad rep because it's continental. It's sod all to do with being continental It gets slated because it's bloody rubbish It allows far to much space and it's a lot harder to defend against someone who has already got a run at you
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Post by hanibal7 on Dec 18, 2017 11:04:53 GMT
Leave someone on the halfway line when defending corners would be #1. It drives me ******* mad!!! Wow, end of our problems, hope Hughes is reading this.
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 18, 2017 11:09:43 GMT
1. Not let Bojan and Muni go out on loan. These lads are not the answer to our prayers but they are alternate options to the crap we have. 2. Not sell Bardsley and offer Johnson a new contract, this was mind boggling decision by Hughes & co. 3. Not spent a combined £36 million on Imbula and Wimmer. 4. Not have bought Berahino if I wasn't going to play him. 5. Not persevered with a system that blatantly doesn't work and sees us ship goals like it's going out of fashion. 6. Would've ditched zonal marking. 7. I would stop talking bollocks to the press, fans can see through the bullshit. 8. I would give Tom Edwards a run of games rather than toying with the lad. 9. Would've strengthened a full backs during transfer windows. Bojan should be bought back here if it's possible so we can go 4231. Regardless of how successful he has been there he has shown he can do it, he just needs too. Bringing him back mid season says to him he's needed, a second chance if you like
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Post by leicspotter on Dec 18, 2017 19:32:48 GMT
I would send this post to LMH and MAKE him read it...there are some good ideas on here (and some bad ones / and some hilarious ones) and maybe he might just get the hint
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Post by swampySCFC on Dec 18, 2017 19:37:00 GMT
Just have a look at the posts. Everyone’s a manager😂
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Post by rrrrleek on Dec 18, 2017 19:37:35 GMT
442 and long ball
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Post by Block 22 on Dec 18, 2017 19:38:18 GMT
Play our most successful formation. Practice defending in training. Make better substitutions that actually influence the game. Drop Darren Fletcher. Never in the world play Shaqiri out wide. Play players in their best positions. Enquire about some new fitness and conditioning coaches. Ask for 60million to spend in Jan. Buy a right back, left back and central midfielder. Not offer Ireland a new contract. Don’t keep changing tactics and formations. Take captaincy from Shawcross.
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Post by alster on Dec 18, 2017 20:29:36 GMT
1. Not let Bojan and Muni go out on loan. These lads are not the answer to our prayers but they are alternate options to the crap we have. 2. Not sell Bardsley and offer Johnson a new contract, this was mind boggling decision by Hughes & co. 3. Not spent a combined £36 million on Imbula and Wimmer. 4. Not have bought Berahino if I wasn't going to play him. 5. Not persevered with a system that blatantly doesn't work and sees us ship goals like it's going out of fashion. 6. Would've ditched zonal marking. 7. I would stop talking bollocks to the press, fans can see through the bullshit. 8. I would give Tom Edwards a run of games rather than toying with the lad. 9. Would've strengthened a full backs during transfer windows. Bojan should be bought back here if it's possible so we can go 4231. Regardless of how successful he has been there he has shown he can do it, he just needs too. Bringing him back mid season says to him he's needed, a second chance if you like You could only play him in the centre of the 3 and that's Shaq's best position.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 18, 2017 20:34:29 GMT
Steal Coates's pin number.
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 18, 2017 20:36:55 GMT
Bojan should be bought back here if it's possible so we can go 4231. Regardless of how successful he has been there he has shown he can do it, he just needs too. Bringing him back mid season says to him he's needed, a second chance if you like You could only play him in the centre of the 3 and that's Shaq's best position. maybe, even so I'd prefer to have two players in the team that can both open doors & score goals rather than one even if it means Shaqiri on the right. But like moyes has done with arnautovic in putting him on the right to get crosses in, why can't Shaqiri do that on the left instead of cutting inside or cutting back Every time and onto his left. Playing that with bojan in the middle and getting a quick direct orthodox right sided winger in january and it would give us a whole different look going forward
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 18, 2017 20:55:51 GMT
You could only play him in the centre of the 3 and that's Shaq's best position. maybe, even so I'd prefer to have two players in the team that can both open doors & score goals rather than one even if it means Shaqiri on the right. But like moyes has done with arnautovic in putting him on the right to get crosses in, why can't Shaqiri do that on the left instead of cutting inside or cutting back Every time and onto his left. Playing that with bojan in the middle and getting a quick direct orthodox right sided winger in january and it would give us a whole different look going forward Totally agree on the right winger. We lack threat going forward largely because we have no pace up front. As good as Shaq is, at the moment we are relying to much on him to the detriment of the team.
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Post by chad on Dec 18, 2017 21:00:05 GMT
Phone Tone .......
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Post by alster on Dec 18, 2017 21:01:29 GMT
You could only play him in the centre of the 3 and that's Shaq's best position. maybe, even so I'd prefer to have two players in the team that can both open doors & score goals rather than one even if it means Shaqiri on the right. But like moyes has done with arnautovic in putting him on the right to get crosses in, why can't Shaqiri do that on the left instead of cutting inside or cutting back Every time and onto his left. Playing that with bojan in the middle and getting a quick direct orthodox right sided winger in january and it would give us a whole different look going forward Don't think crossing is Shaq's best attribute and think Bojan is far too weak for English football anyway.
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 18, 2017 21:18:33 GMT
maybe, even so I'd prefer to have two players in the team that can both open doors & score goals rather than one even if it means Shaqiri on the right. But like moyes has done with arnautovic in putting him on the right to get crosses in, why can't Shaqiri do that on the left instead of cutting inside or cutting back Every time and onto his left. Playing that with bojan in the middle and getting a quick direct orthodox right sided winger in january and it would give us a whole different look going forward Don't think crossing is Shaq's best attribute and think Bojan is far too weak for English football anyway. it's not armies though either but he seems to be doing o.k. . I've seen Shaqiri run, stop, cut back and whip many a decent cross/ whipped pass in on his left? If we're going to go down it could be at least with having a few players in the team that can go forward together & create chances for berahino. Scott Sinclair would do me for the right in january as an affordable right sided January buy. He's got something like a 1 in 2 goal record for celtic. Could do worse than shaqiri whipping balls in with bojan, Berahino & a quick right sided player sprinting in late to get on the end. We can't keep doing what we are doing that's for sure
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Post by alster on Dec 18, 2017 21:20:27 GMT
Don't think crossing is Shaq's best attribute and think Bojan is far too weak for English football anyway. it's not armies though either but he seems to be doing o.k. . I've seen Shaqiri run, stop, cut back and whip many a decent cross/ whipped pass in on his left? If we're going to go down it could be at least with having a few players in the team that can go forward together & create chances for berahino. Scott Sinclair would do me for the right in january as an affordable right sided January buy. He's got something like a 1 in 2 goal record for celtic. Could do worse than shaqiri whipping balls in with bojan, Berahino & a quick right sided player sprinting in late to get on the end. We can't keep doing what we are doing that's for sure
Now that we can agree on.
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 18, 2017 21:20:34 GMT
Even better would be a benteke up top as a target who can hold the ball up
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Post by alster on Dec 18, 2017 21:22:47 GMT
Even better would be a benteke up top as a target who can hold the ball up Mitrovic more realistic capable of doing the same job not scored many and got a bit of a temperament issue mind.
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 18, 2017 21:32:21 GMT
Even better would be a benteke up top as a target who can hold the ball up Mitrovic more realistic capable of doing the same job not scored many and got a bit of a temperament issue mind. Yeah, if Coates was serious of staying up a bid for barkley? We can stay up if the board want too. They have to back their man
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Post by samba :) on Dec 18, 2017 21:33:27 GMT
Teach pieters to cross and have wimmer assassinated
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Post by alster on Dec 18, 2017 21:34:23 GMT
Mitrovic more realistic capable of doing the same job not scored many and got a bit of a temperament issue mind. Yeah, if Coates was serious of staying up a bid for barkley? We can stay up if the board want too. They have to back their man No doubting that if the board want to we can challenge for Europe even Champions league but at least we have their love.
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Post by alster on Dec 18, 2017 21:36:27 GMT
Teach pieters to cross and have wimmer assassinated That's actually a pretty good idea he'll be insured won't he? Fucking hell £18M for something worth about £18 He'd fetch about that in blubber.
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 18, 2017 21:39:20 GMT
Mitrovic more realistic capable of doing the same job not scored many and got a bit of a temperament issue mind. Yeah, if Coates was serious of staying up a bid for barkley? We can stay up if the board want too. They have to back their man I take it you forgot the winky thing😀
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Post by jezzascfc on Dec 18, 2017 21:47:32 GMT
I'd not take the job unless:
1. Scholes and Cartwright were sacked and I had a say in the identity of the new technical director. 2. I could bring in my own coaching staff, which would include a dedicated defensive coach to drill the back four and a fitness and conditioning coach (preferably a disciple of Raymond Verheijen) who would give each player a tailor made regime to follow. 3. Coates agreed to make 50m available in January and another 50m, plus any funds raised by sales, in the summer.
With the January funds, sign two full backs, a holding midfielder and a pacey forward; if funds don't stretch that far, at least get one of them on loan. I'd pay off Johnson and Ireland (enough of our being a rest home for the elderly and infirm), put Adam, Wimmer and Berahino on the transfer list (fuck it, I didn't buy them!) , and see if we can cancel Jese's loan deal and bring back Muniesa. Get Ngoy, Verlinden, Campbell, Edwards and Tymon loans to the lower leagues to see if they have what it takes.
Play 4-3-2-1 every week, all players in their natural positions, a settled formation where they know what is expected of them (double training each day would drill it into them).
In summer, once we had stayed up, I would put Shawcross, Pieters, Fletcher, Afellay and Imbula up for sale and withdraw the offer of another year to Crouch (see above about a rest home). I would offer Chelsea 20m for Kurt, and do my utmost to keep Jack and Shaq, before looking for young cover at full back, centre back and central midfield. I'd want a speedy right winger and another striker, preferably a mobile and powerful target man.
Big changes - all needed, whoever is the manager at Stoke over the next year.
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 18, 2017 21:48:11 GMT
Yeah, if Coates was serious of staying up a bid for barkley? We can stay up if the board want too. They have to back their man I take it you forgot the winky thing😀 😉😉 thought he was being touted for a move recently
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Post by alster on Dec 18, 2017 21:55:27 GMT
I'd not take the job unless: 1. Scholes and Cartwright were sacked and I had a say in the identity of the new technical director. 2. I could bring in my own coaching staff, which would include a dedicated defensive coach to drill the back four and a fitness and conditioning coach (preferably a disciple of Raymond Verheijen) who would give each player a tailor made regime to follow. 3. Coates agreed to make 50m available in January and another 50m, plus any funds raised by sales, in the summer. With the January funds, sign two full backs, a holding midfielder and a pacey forward; if funds don't stretch that far, at least get one of them on loan. I'd pay off Johnson and Ireland (enough of our being a rest home for the elderly and infirm), put Adam, Wimmer and Berahino on the transfer list (fuck it, I didn't buy them!) , and see if we can cancel Jese's loan deal and bring back Muniesa. Get Ngoy, Verlinden, Campbell, Edwards and Tymon loans to the lower leagues to see if they have what it takes. Play 4-3-2-1 every week, all players in their natural positions, a settled formation where they know what is expected of them (double training each day would drill it into them). In summer, once we had stayed up, I would put Shawcross, Pieters, Fletcher, Afellay and Imbula up for sale and withdraw the offer of another year to Crouch (see above about a rest home). I would offer Chelsea 20m for Kurt, and do my utmost to keep Jack and Shaq, before looking for young cover at full back, centre back and central midfield. I'd want a speedy right winger and another striker, preferably a mobile and powerful target man. Big changes - all needed, whoever is the manager at Stoke over the next year. If that's your application form you are not getting an interview and if they're your interview notes the interview is over before you even reach point 2. Even if you're Pep or Jose Mourinho.
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Post by jezzascfc on Dec 18, 2017 22:02:17 GMT
I'd not take the job unless: 1. Scholes and Cartwright were sacked and I had a say in the identity of the new technical director. 2. I could bring in my own coaching staff, which would include a dedicated defensive coach to drill the back four and a fitness and conditioning coach (preferably a disciple of Raymond Verheijen) who would give each player a tailor made regime to follow. 3. Coates agreed to make 50m available in January and another 50m, plus any funds raised by sales, in the summer. With the January funds, sign two full backs, a holding midfielder and a pacey forward; if funds don't stretch that far, at least get one of them on loan. I'd pay off Johnson and Ireland (enough of our being a rest home for the elderly and infirm), put Adam, Wimmer and Berahino on the transfer list (fuck it, I didn't buy them!) , and see if we can cancel Jese's loan deal and bring back Muniesa. Get Ngoy, Verlinden, Campbell, Edwards and Tymon loans to the lower leagues to see if they have what it takes. Play 4-3-2-1 every week, all players in their natural positions, a settled formation where they know what is expected of them (double training each day would drill it into them). In summer, once we had stayed up, I would put Shawcross, Pieters, Fletcher, Afellay and Imbula up for sale and withdraw the offer of another year to Crouch (see above about a rest home). I would offer Chelsea 20m for Kurt, and do my utmost to keep Jack and Shaq, before looking for young cover at full back, centre back and central midfield. I'd want a speedy right winger and another striker, preferably a mobile and powerful target man. Big changes - all needed, whoever is the manager at Stoke over the next year. If that's your application form you are not getting an interview and if they're your interview notes the interview is over before you even reach point 2. Even if you're Pep or Jose Mourinho. Fine - I would not take a job where I was destined to fail because of the incompetent buffoons to which I had to answer. Coates will not get rid of Scholes and Cartwright even if he eventually sacks Hughes in the coming weeks, but he damn well should!
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