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Post by estp1863 on Dec 15, 2017 21:49:32 GMT
Funny how he was doing well before pulis turned up & spurs were heavily linked. So well in fact that supporters were pissed off with pulis.
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Post by alster on Dec 15, 2017 21:52:08 GMT
Funny how he was doing well before pulis turned up & spurs were heavily linked. So well in fact that supporters were pissed off with pulis. That's not something unique football supporters are usually pissed off with Pulis. He robs us of the product we pay for.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 15, 2017 21:52:46 GMT
Funny how he was doing well before pulis turned up & spurs were heavily linked. So well in fact that supporters were pissed off with pulis. So it was Pulis's, Spurs now Stoke's fault he is pretty wank ?, here's a radical thought maybe he's wank because he's eerrrmmmmm just wank.
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 15, 2017 21:54:34 GMT
What a fucking cheek to hold talks with the board. He has cost 12 million pounds and failed to score a single goal. He should be happy that he has a long fat contract. We have a relegation battle on our hands and we dont need some goalshy cryboy wandering around the pitch taking up a starting spot. I cant believe there at Stoke fans that are defending this waster of a footballer. The sooner we fuck him, Imbula & Wimmer off the balance sheet and the squad the better I can understand him going in the chairman's office, he thought he was joining a football team not a circus. A player who knows He's shit sits on his fat contract & keeps it zipped, I know I would.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 21:56:27 GMT
Apologies for not reading the whole thread but on the couple of farcical posts I’ve seen, people need to get a grip.. Saido has not been given a proper chance and him up top with Crouch makes total sense... Hughes was stupid to play him as long as he did last season when he clearly wasn’t fit or ready. Now he actually has a pre season under his belt, he doesn’t get a game... if anyone wants to say, that because he is shite when he plays, I would like them to tell me the total minutes he has played his season...makes the goal for Jese against arsenal and wins the penalty against Southampton, should he have taken it probably not, his career record with pens isn’t great but fuck me, that’s 2 games this season where he has made something happen in, wait for it ... 2 league starts..... Give him the next 4 games from the start... taking us up to the new year.. if he doesn’t nothing , cut our losses then . Remember the manager and coaching staff see the player most days in training and so don't just judge him in games alone. It looks from remarks Hughes has made that they may not have been convinced about how he has responded to what they want during training sessions. It is quite amazing how many football fans in general think they can judge a player better than the qualified staff who spend huge amounts of time with players each week. Having watched Mark Hughes systematically dismantle a functional football team over the last two years with bad decision after bad decision, I reckon I'm more than qualified to judge a player better than he can or any of his useless fucking staff can either.
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 15, 2017 21:58:35 GMT
Funny how he was doing well before pulis turned up & spurs were heavily linked. So well in fact that supporters were pissed off with pulis. So it was Pulis's, Spurs now Stoke's fault he is pretty wank ?, here's a radical thought maybe he's wank because he's eerrrmmmmm just wank. yeah because tiny has a great history of getting on with strikers doesn't he, especially strikers under 6ft that don't run around like a chipmunk in a cage. Say no more on how He's been dealt with here with tactics and a clown in charge
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 15, 2017 22:03:12 GMT
It's about time instead of writing off players we start writing off the manager who seems to continuously fail to improve any of them. I bet zouma can't wait to get the fuck out of here, he arrived looking sharp he's gone backwards.
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Post by alster on Dec 15, 2017 22:03:39 GMT
Remember the manager and coaching staff see the player most days in training and so don't just judge him in games alone. It looks from remarks Hughes has made that they may not have been convinced about how he has responded to what they want during training sessions. It is quite amazing how many football fans in general think they can judge a player better than the qualified staff who spend huge amounts of time with players each week. Having watched Mark Hughes systematically dismantle a functional football team over the last two years with bad decision after bad decision, I reckon I'm more than qualified to judge a player better than he can or any of his useless fucking staff can either. He's fallen into the trap that so many coaches do, he's become so obsessed with stopping the opposition playing he's totally destroyed the effectiveness of his own team in the process. Difference is many of them do a much better job of canceling out the opposition. Coaches tactics and game management has a lot to answer for in football.
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Post by alster on Dec 15, 2017 22:04:50 GMT
It's about time instead of writing off players we start writing off the manager who seems to continuously improve any of them. I bet sums can't wait to get the fuck out of here, he arrived looking sharp he's gone backwards Eh!
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 15, 2017 22:07:36 GMT
It's about time instead of writing off players we start writing off the manager who seems to continuously fail to improve any of them. I bet zouma can't wait to get the fuck out of here, he arrived looking sharp he's gone backwards. It's cheaper to write off the manager & see who benefits before clearing out the players Eh! Sorry it's auto spell.
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Post by alster on Dec 15, 2017 22:08:51 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 15, 2017 22:10:38 GMT
It's about time instead of writing off players we start writing off the manager who seems to continuously not improve any of them. I bet sums can't wait to get the fuck out of here, he arrived looking sharp he's gone backwards Who is sums is it some sort of gangster wannabe nick name for Berahino, he arrived looking fat unfit and useless he is now not fat fit and useless, there is a reason Lethargic Les is not playing him and I would place my bet on useless.
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 15, 2017 22:15:10 GMT
It's about time instead of writing off players we start writing off the manager who seems to continuously not improve any of them. I bet sums can't wait to get the fuck out of here, he arrived looking sharp he's gone backwards Who is sums is it some sort of gangster wannabe nick name for Berahino, he arrived looking fat unfit and useless he is now not fat fit and useless, there is a reason Lethargic Les is not playing him and I would place my bet on useless. Edited the post above it's auto spell
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 15, 2017 22:25:48 GMT
It's about time instead of writing off players we start writing off the manager who seems to continuously not improve any of them. I bet sums can't wait to get the fuck out of here, he arrived looking sharp he's gone backwards Who is sums is it some sort of gangster wannabe nick name for Berahino, he arrived looking fat unfit and useless he is now not fat fit and useless, there is a reason Lethargic Les is not playing him and I would place my bet on useless. I'd place my bets on clueless
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Post by geoff321 on Dec 15, 2017 22:26:48 GMT
Remember the manager and coaching staff see the player most days in training and so don't just judge him in games alone. It looks from remarks Hughes has made that they may not have been convinced about how he has responded to what they want during training sessions. It is quite amazing how many football fans in general think they can judge a player better than the qualified staff who spend huge amounts of time with players each week. Having watched Mark Hughes systematically dismantle a functional football team over the last two years with bad decision after bad decision, I reckon I'm more than qualified to judge a player better than he can or any of his useless fucking staff can either. The thing about pundits, whether they are ex players in the media or fans on the internet, is that almost none of them have ever managed a team at any level. In a few cases experts like Gary Neville, who is a respected Sky pundit, not only failed in his first and only management position but such was his experience that it has put him off wanting any management post in the future. Our own Mike Pejic who can point out every mistake he thinks Hughes is making has never managed a club at a senior level. I'm all for people giving their views about tactics and players as long as they don't take themselves to seriously, giving opinions as a fan on the internet and actually managing a football club are worlds apart.
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 15, 2017 22:28:02 GMT
Clueless for buying players he hasn't got a clue what to do with.
Thought I'd describe which type of clueless as he is clueless in so many ways it's hard to keep track
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 22:28:33 GMT
Having watched Mark Hughes systematically dismantle a functional football team over the last two years with bad decision after bad decision, I reckon I'm more than qualified to judge a player better than he can or any of his useless fucking staff can either. He's fallen into the trap that so many coaches do, he's become so obsessed with stopping the opposition playing he's totally destroyed the effectiveness of his own team in the process. Difference is many of them do a much better job of canceling out the opposition. Coaches tactics and game management has a lot to answer for in football. He hasn't become obsessed with that at all by the looks of things. Shit signing after shit signing has put paid to any plans that he might have harboured at any given time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 22:34:25 GMT
Having watched Mark Hughes systematically dismantle a functional football team over the last two years with bad decision after bad decision, I reckon I'm more than qualified to judge a player better than he can or any of his useless fucking staff can either. The thing about pundits, whether they are ex players in the media or fans on the internet, is that almost none of them have ever managed a team at any level. In a few cases experts like Gary Neville, who is a respected Sky pundit, not only failed in his first and only management position but such was his experience that it has put him off wanting any management post in the future. Our own Mike Pejic who can point out every mistake he thinks Hughes is making has never managed a club at a senior level. I'm all for people giving their views about tactics and players as long as they don't take themselves to seriously, giving opinions as a fan on the internet and actually managing a football club are worlds apart. I wouldn't necessarily disagree with what you're saying mate, and I'm in no doubt that if I were given the Stoke job tomorrow I'd fail miserably, but it doesn't alter the fact that Mark Hughes is also failing miserably and having watched 90% of our games over the last 18 months or so, I know that I'm plenty qualified enough to know that our manager isn't up to the job anymore and that he has assembled a "team" that's not fit for purpose.
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Post by thegrassyknoll on Dec 15, 2017 23:04:36 GMT
Funny how he was doing well before pulis turned up & spurs were heavily linked. So well in fact that supporters were pissed off with pulis. This is just wrong. He was not doing well before Toxic turned up. SB's feud with Peace had already started and he was past his short lived 'golden period'. Most Albion fans had already seen enough of Saido.
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 15, 2017 23:06:25 GMT
Funny how he was doing well before pulis turned up & spurs were heavily linked. So well in fact that supporters were pissed off with pulis. This is just wrong. He was not doing well before Toxic turned up. SB's feud with Peace had already started and he was past his short lived 'golden period'. Most Albion fans had already seen enough of Saido. From what I saw pulis was taking a lot of stick for not playing him
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Post by spiderpuss on Dec 15, 2017 23:14:53 GMT
Lets face it Saido is a poor footballer, regardless of his history. Theres no application in the bloke. Weve been done over a barrel with him, 12M you're havin a laugh. A modern day Lightbourne. Will leave on a free transfer to Fleetwood eventually.
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 15, 2017 23:15:12 GMT
Funny how he was doing well before pulis turned up & spurs were heavily linked. So well in fact that supporters were pissed off with pulis. This is just wrong. He was not doing well before Toxic turned up. SB's feud with Peace had already started and he was past his short lived 'golden period'. Most Albion fans had already seen enough of Saido. Reading Wikipedia he got the clubs player of the year award, that summer spurs bid & it was rejected, meanwhile pulis signed Rondon & left him out of the squad claiming he was disruptive. So it started to tits up that summer during preseason by the sound of it and pulis give him the pulis treatment from then on, however, the season had finished with Berahino player of the season so why can't Mark get a tune out of him? The answer is an obvious one to me. He has played all through the England youth set ups, you don't forget how to play football overnight and he was as keen as mustard arriving here
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Post by thegrassyknoll on Dec 15, 2017 23:39:44 GMT
Can't think Saido has done himself any favours with such a move, going over the head of your boss to his boss is a recipe for writing your own P45. I hope the board tell him to get back in his box knuckle down and earn your 70k per week. According to Fletcher Saido was always playing the victim at WBA seems it's continuing. It looks like the agents that SB uses are still as piss poor as when he was at WBA. This story should not be in the public domain. Any contact should be by his agent, without any direct input from the player. No manager (with balls) will take a public challenge to his authority. The guy has lost the plot, as he seems to be going down the same well worn path that he chose at WBA. I've asked before - does anybody know if SB's training timekeeping is still as poor as it was while he was with the Albion? This caused him grief with the Capped One, and I can't see the other glum Welshman being any different, if sleepyhead Saido has continued with his tardiness.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 16, 2017 1:53:05 GMT
What a fucking cheek to hold talks with the board. He has cost 12 million pounds and failed to score a single goal. He should be happy that he has a long fat contract. We have a relegation battle on our hands and we dont need some goalshy cryboy wandering around the pitch taking up a starting spot. I cant believe there at Stoke fans that are defending this waster of a footballer. The sooner we fuck him, Imbula & Wimmer off the balance sheet and the squad the better I'd rather him doing this that sitting there not giving a fuck, it seem players can't win, Imbula didn't care/try gets shit, Bera does, gets shit.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 16, 2017 2:16:11 GMT
‘He’s a poacher ‘. You can only laugh. A poacher who hasn’t scored for nearly two years. He's just a really unlucky poacher with a knack of being in the wrong place at the right time every time for two years, it's everybody else's fault that the poor little mite has failed including the two opposition goalkeepers, the inconsiderate bastards saved the only two meaningful shots he has had on target. The only two chances he's had created for him...........
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Post by pb1863 on Dec 16, 2017 2:23:49 GMT
Maybe he has lack of white line fever
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Post by kustokie on Dec 16, 2017 2:43:13 GMT
So he chased him over three transfer windows when it's public knowledge that his attitude at WBA wasn't great. Was willing to pay £20m for in the previous one before he signed him. Ends up paying £12/£15m (depending on what you read) and now decides he doesn't like what he sees of him in training. Genius that is And that's not judging the player - that's judging the manager. I'm not sure it's the attitude that bothers Hughes, more likely he isn't quite doing it in the tactical moves they practice. You’re making a huge leap of faith that Hughes spends a lot of time on tactical moves during training. Edwards let it slip (put it down to youthful inexperience) that he only found out the day before the Spurs match that he was starting when they began working on drills. Surely, this shows Hughes does not have a Plan A that everyone understands so players are ready step in at short notice with a clear understanding of what’s expected. “If you don’t have a plan, you don’t anything to deviate from” - Dwight Eisenhower.
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Post by alster on Dec 16, 2017 9:26:37 GMT
He's fallen into the trap that so many coaches do, he's become so obsessed with stopping the opposition playing he's totally destroyed the effectiveness of his own team in the process. Difference is many of them do a much better job of canceling out the opposition. Coaches tactics and game management has a lot to answer for in football. He hasn't become obsessed with that at all by the looks of things. Shit signing after shit signing has put paid to any plans that he might have harboured at any given time. He's deliberately taken a negative route the fact we ship goals doesn't change that just shows he's not been successful. He's regressed to a point where he had a player named as one of a front 3 playing a predominantly defensive role. He's concentrating far too much on the opposition and should be concentrating on getting his team playing effective attacking football and let the opponent worry about dealing with that. He's not a good enough defensive coach to play with his defence under constant pressure. Needs to go back to looking after the ball and trying to play on the front foot in the opposition half as much as possible. Look at possession stats and action areas for our games its a deliberate choice you don't suddenly become so bad at looking after the ball possession stats or being unable to get out of your own half action areas.
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Post by superheroantonius on Dec 16, 2017 9:32:58 GMT
Rubbish footballer , brilliant agent
I want saido's agent to be my agent
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Post by alster on Dec 16, 2017 9:42:00 GMT
Rubbish footballer , brilliant agent I want saido's agent to be my agent Rubbish footballers don't represent England at every level below full international.
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