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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2017 18:31:12 GMT
Is it the one about who had the best manager capable of having a game plan and able to motivate his players? 🤔
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2017 18:50:56 GMT
Him going out for turkey with all the trimmings with his boss isn't rubbing your nose in the shit though? People up and down the country go out for work Xmas meals at this time of the year..... I don’t think any of us would bat an eyelid if the teams Xmas do was cancelled - like Big SAM has done at Everton. We would probably say fair play, Hughes is making a point. So IMO, him openly stating that his annual jolley with Coates and Co is still on is a statement to the media and fans that all is good. For someone who is so good at self PR, that just seems a little contrived - similar to his Billboard comment a few days ago. I took it as a deliberate fuck off. Cool. I took it as two men having a meal together.....
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Post by estp1863 on Dec 14, 2017 18:51:36 GMT
He can give the spiel as much as he wants, games will keep coming and the reality will hit home on the owners soon enough
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 14, 2017 19:31:48 GMT
What the fuck was he training like before, thank God for small mercies he is at least trying in training now !, he might be ready to play in the first team sometime next season.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 14, 2017 19:34:05 GMT
oh well, at least when we get relegated we can take comfort from the fact we were top of the stats table. I think the point is, if we continue to top the stats table in our future matches like we did the last game, the odds are we won't get relegated. Unless of course we don't keep conceding goals and not scoring any, did he actually realise we lost on Tuesday ?
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 14, 2017 19:36:07 GMT
Is it the one about who had the best manager capable of having a game plan and able to motivate his players? 🤔 The manager who made a positive substitution that ultimately won the game FFS
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Post by loosestools on Dec 14, 2017 20:35:47 GMT
I wonder who is going to give the motivational pre match talk - Mumbling Bowen, Unintelligable Hughes, Eddie Neddy or whatever his name is, Pottermouse, Nello?. I despair at our plight.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 14, 2017 20:37:29 GMT
I wonder who is going to give the motivational pre match talk - Mumbling Bowen, Unintelligable Hughes, Eddie Neddy or whatever his name is, Pottermouse, Nello?. I despair at our plight. Puddled Peter
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Post by loosestools on Dec 14, 2017 20:41:09 GMT
I wonder who is going to give the motivational pre match talk - Mumbling Bowen, Unintelligable Hughes, Eddie Neddy or whatever his name is, Pottermouse, Nello?. I despair at our plight. Puddled Peter I dont think he is puddled, I think he has dithered too long, and paying the consequences. Pretty crap for a bookie.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Dec 14, 2017 20:41:45 GMT
What the fuck was he training like before, thank God for small mercies he is at least trying in training now !, he might be ready to play in the first team sometime next season. In his presser last week he stated that Berahino was available but our current system didn’t suit his style of play. Just made me wonder why Hughes chased him for two transfer windows if he doesn’t suit our system
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Post by scfc75 on Dec 14, 2017 20:45:04 GMT
I dont think he is puddled, I think he has dithered too long, and paying the consequences. Pretty crap for a bookie. It's exactly how a bookie would act... Statistically they offer odds that overall are in their favour. He's doing what he thinks is the most risk averse thing given the current managers available. Bookies don't take risks, punters do.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 14, 2017 20:45:18 GMT
What the fuck was he training like before, thank God for small mercies he is at least trying in training now !, he might be ready to play in the first team sometime next season. In his presser last week he stated that Berahino was available but our current system didn’t suit his style of play. Just made me wonder why Hughes chased him for two transfer windows if he doesn’t suit our system I have also pondered this ! the only conclusion I can come up with Hughes has no idea how to build a team to suit the next fad system he latches onto, this signing along with Wimper sum up the way he is taking this club.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 14, 2017 20:46:21 GMT
I dont think he is puddled, I think he has dithered too long, and paying the consequences. Pretty crap for a bookie. It's exactly how a bookie would act... Statistically they offer odds that overall are in their favour. He's doing what he thinks is the most risk averse thing given the current managers available. Bookies don't take risks, punters do. And his reason in the summer was ??????????
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Post by loosestools on Dec 14, 2017 20:49:45 GMT
I dont think he is puddled, I think he has dithered too long, and paying the consequences. Pretty crap for a bookie. It's exactly how a bookie would act... Statistically they offer odds that overall are in their favour. He's doing what he thinks is the most risk averse thing given the current managers available. Bookies don't take risks, punters do. I am sure that they have been calculating the odds by running the statistics through their complex programmes, just like the polsters do at general elections. Unfortunately they sometimes get it wrong.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 14, 2017 20:51:34 GMT
It's exactly how a bookie would act... Statistically they offer odds that overall are in their favour. He's doing what he thinks is the most risk averse thing given the current managers available. Bookies don't take risks, punters do. I am sure that they have been calculating the odds by running the statistics through their complex programmes, just like the polsters do at general elections. Unfortunately they sometimes get it wrong. He backed remain heavily in the Brexit referendum will he never learn.
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Post by scfc75 on Dec 14, 2017 20:57:20 GMT
It's exactly how a bookie would act... Statistically they offer odds that overall are in their favour. He's doing what he thinks is the most risk averse thing given the current managers available. Bookies don't take risks, punters do. And his reason in the summer was ?????????? I'm not saying he's doing the right thing, or that he did in the summer. Just responding to the point that as a bookie he should be taking risks.... bookmakers I imagine are very risk averse hence why they make lots of money funded by the vast majority of gamblers.
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Post by geoff321 on Dec 14, 2017 20:57:43 GMT
Events of the last few hours change nothing, Hughes will have to start winning games to keep his job, just as any new manager would have to hit the ground running. Peter Coates is no mug, he will have made Hughes fully aware of what he expects, the media stuff today is an attempt to keep the fans onside for Saturday.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 14, 2017 21:00:27 GMT
And his reason in the summer was ?????????? I'm not saying he's doing the right thing, or that he did in the summer. Just responding to the point that as a bookie he should be taking risks.... bookmakers I imagine are very risk averse hence why they make lots of money funded by the vast majority of gamblers. Agreed but that conflicts with the financial backing he has given to Hughes who has in turn pissed £50 million up the wall on three very high risk signings.
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Post by Fred Ferret on Dec 14, 2017 21:00:34 GMT
Events of the last few hours change nothing, Hughes will have to start winning games to keep his job, just as any new manager would have to hit the ground running. Peter Coates is no mug, he will have made Hughes fully aware of what he expects, the media stuff today is an attempt to keep the fans onside for Saturday. Must say, PC made a damn good start - " don't see what the fuss is about" - a touch patronising or what?
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Post by simple on Dec 14, 2017 21:01:40 GMT
The easy way out for the chairman would be to sack the manager,the hardest job would to find a manager to stop the slide and preserve Premiership status.This board seems to be split on one name,should the chairman listen to the fans ,no he should make the best decision for Stoke City. This board most proberly is less than 1% of fans who attend matches.All us matchday fans want is a team that is organised,up for a fight and does not throw the towel in once we go two down. If we do get relagated then the true fans will be left to pick the pieces up.So forget all those who say they won’t attend again if the club sacked MH and employed TP,because they would also not attend if we got relagated. So Mr Coates back your manager or sack him.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 14, 2017 21:02:07 GMT
Events of the last few hours change nothing, Hughes will have to start winning games to keep his job, just as any new manager would have to hit the ground running. Peter Coates is no mug, he will have made Hughes fully aware of what he expects, the media stuff today is an attempt to keep the fans onside for Saturday. The fans turned pretty much on mass after the Spurs debacle, things could turn very nasty on Saturday.
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Post by geoff321 on Dec 14, 2017 21:04:52 GMT
Events of the last few hours change nothing, Hughes will have to start winning games to keep his job, just as any new manager would have to hit the ground running. Peter Coates is no mug, he will have made Hughes fully aware of what he expects, the media stuff today is an attempt to keep the fans onside for Saturday. Must say, PC made a damn good start - " don't see what the fuss is about" - a touch patronising or what? I think that's a message to say anti Hughes demonstrations on Saturday are not going to achieve anything.
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Post by scfc75 on Dec 14, 2017 21:05:13 GMT
I'm not saying he's doing the right thing, or that he did in the summer. Just responding to the point that as a bookie he should be taking risks.... bookmakers I imagine are very risk averse hence why they make lots of money funded by the vast majority of gamblers. Agreed but that conflicts with the financial backing he has given to Hughes who has in turn pissed £50 million up the wall on three very high risk signings. Our net spend is one of the lowest in the division, so I'd argue with that point. He's been backed, no doubt, but I wouldn't say that the financial backing he's had is in any way a gamble... It's been within the boundaries set to get the club more self-sufficient. If he'd given him £100m to spend (thank fuck he didn't!) then yes, it would be a gamble.
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Post by scfc75 on Dec 14, 2017 21:06:52 GMT
Must say, PC made a damn good start - " don't see what the fuss is about" - a touch patronising or what? I think that's a message to say anti Hughes demonstrations on Saturday are not going to achieve anything. It doesn't matter what he says publicly though Geoff, if West Ham take the lead on Saturday just watch the atmosphere turn.
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Post by geoff321 on Dec 14, 2017 21:07:01 GMT
Events of the last few hours change nothing, Hughes will have to start winning games to keep his job, just as any new manager would have to hit the ground running. Peter Coates is no mug, he will have made Hughes fully aware of what he expects, the media stuff today is an attempt to keep the fans onside for Saturday. The fans turned pretty much on mass after the Spurs debacle, things could turn very nasty on Saturday. They could but a good performance and a win would prevent that.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 14, 2017 21:09:19 GMT
Events of the last few hours change nothing, Hughes will have to start winning games to keep his job, just as any new manager would have to hit the ground running. Peter Coates is no mug, he will have made Hughes fully aware of what he expects, the media stuff today is an attempt to keep the fans onside for Saturday. Must say, PC made a damn good start - " don't see what the fuss is about" - a touch patronising or what? Detached from the supporters springs to mind.
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Post by Gunslinger on Dec 14, 2017 21:12:44 GMT
Events of the last few hours change nothing, Hughes will have to start winning games to keep his job, just as any new manager would have to hit the ground running. Peter Coates is no mug, he will have made Hughes fully aware of what he expects, the media stuff today is an attempt to keep the fans onside for Saturday. The fans turned pretty much on mass after the Spurs debacle, things could turn very nasty on Saturday. It really could. Just imagine if West Ham gets the first goal and/or are leading at half-time.
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Post by Malex on Dec 14, 2017 21:12:58 GMT
The fans turned pretty much on mass after the Spurs debacle, things could turn very nasty on Saturday. They could but a good performance and a win would prevent that. If we'd had a few more of them over the past 18 months then we wouldn't be in this position
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Post by geoff321 on Dec 14, 2017 21:13:48 GMT
I think that's a message to say anti Hughes demonstrations on Saturday are not going to achieve anything. It doesn't matter what he says publicly though Geoff, if West Ham take the lead on Saturday just watch the atmosphere turn. The fans want see good performances and more wins and so does Peter Coates, the difference is that Coates has to make the decisions, one bad decision could cost the club it's PL status.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 14, 2017 21:13:49 GMT
The fans turned pretty much on mass after the Spurs debacle, things could turn very nasty on Saturday. They could but a good performance and a win would prevent that. It might for this game, this frustration has been building for nearly 18 months apathy is now turning to anger with the manager for now, this could easily escalate to the hierarchy of the club it has before and not just at Stoke City either, enough is enough of these weasel words from the club the fans need to see action to sort this mess out as soon as possible.
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