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Post by emery1985 on Dec 9, 2017 22:04:23 GMT
after hearing his interview on radio joke last week,coates is the problem. Hughes has no pressure from above. I wish my boss was like that, I would be on a right jolly! I disagree. That's the famous chairman's vote of confidence that all managers dread. And Coates gave Pulis no warning until the day he axed him. Something about Hughes today suggests he'd like the axe to fall soon as possible. Yeah, I think Hughes is just after christmas off. He lost his bottle months ago and he's waiting for the axe. I shudder to think how much we'll have to pay him when he does go. Fucking diabolical mess
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Post by Cast no shadow on Dec 9, 2017 22:10:56 GMT
We cant afford to go down, we would struggle in the championship. Time to act now or it’s too late.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 9, 2017 22:13:47 GMT
I disagree. That's the famous chairman's vote of confidence that all managers dread. And Coates gave Pulis no warning until the day he axed him. Something about Hughes today suggests he'd like the axe to fall soon as possible. Yeah, I think Hughes is just after christmas off. He lost his bottle months ago and he's waiting for the axe. I shudder to think how much we'll have to pay him when he does go. Fucking diabolical mess Why would it cost so much when he goes? I thought he's on a one year rolling contract?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 9, 2017 22:14:41 GMT
The worst defence in the league isn't average. Letting in 56 goals last season isn't average Multiple 3,4&5 goal hammerings isn't average. I'm a strong supporter of Hughes but he's done, even if he wins the next 3 games the manner of the defeat today has just done me in Cool, see ya later then. If we stay up and continue to finish in an average position then we are where we should be. Want exciting football? Go watch West Brom think they are arsenal and go down every other year. The sooner you grasp the fact that we are an average (better than Swansea team) the better
But what if we're in genuine danger of becoming a less than average team with a distinct possibility of being relegated.
At what point do you (to use your words) 'grasp the fact'?
When we go down?
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Post by VolvicStokie on Dec 9, 2017 22:18:10 GMT
You're overlooking something. There's a handful of posters who've rubbished every criticism of Hughes, however justified, and usually ended up blaming the fans who don't think like them. They won't want to lose face. Oh I know. We'll perhaps grab a lucky point or even 3 on Tuesday night and they'll all be out in force claiming they're the true fans and Hughes deserves more time to think about what formation to play every week. All's I can say is, it's now getting to the point of how it was under Toxic. Its now near on impossible for him to win the fans back. He's almost certainly lost the dressing room, and I'd say a large % of fans are done with him now to. Coates needs to stop burying his head in the sand. We need a new manager, a new direction and fresh ideas. A squad that should be pushing top 8 on paper is struggling hopelessly week in, week out. We're extremely fortunate to have 2-3 other teams in the league that are just as bad as us.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2017 22:51:48 GMT
Nah, the Swansea game should have bought him some time, but he’s messed it up again too much.
Spurs are of course a very good team, but their recent form meant that any Premier League team could have gone their today, set up defensively and at least cone away with some level of respectability. The team selection was completely off given the recent form of particular players, with Crouch sitting on the bench being the most obvious example.
For me though, the absolute killer should be their 5th goal, so many of their players were running forward with no real effort to track them and that for me just shows the players have completely given up and expect these kind of results now. Somebody new has to come in if only to make players at least be slightly concerned about their starting place if they do anything like that again.
If Hughes goes now at least his finishing positions over his first 4 seasons can at least go down as a success and somebody can come in, assess the squad for a month and add a couple of new players In January. If he stays then at the very best a long slow grind to the end of the season looks on the cards and the atmosphere is going to turn even worse than it did in the West Ham and Villa games under Pulis.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2017 23:33:15 GMT
Pushing top eight. Not in my book. Hughes out!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 18:23:42 GMT
Frankly I fail to see how Hughes can be blamed for Shawcross' own goal, for the same player's failure to mark Kane, for Butland's walk in the park, and Edwards' inability to find the right positions. Oh well you can blame Hughes for playing such a young player, but everyone's been demanding that we picked a proper right back with pace, which Tom does have. You can't blame Hughes for players like Shaqiri failing to chase back when Spurs counter. You can't blame him for Diouf falling every time an opponent comes near. You can blame him for changing a winning team, that was playing a system the players were comfortable with. You can blame him for not adapting his team to the way Spurs were playing and for waiting until we were 4-0 down before making substitutions. When he finlly did what difference was Crouch going to make? I thought Stoke played quite well for 52 minutes. Pieters had a good game, not a great one but he wasn't at fault for us falling apart. We could have parked the bus and we might have lost only by one, but we tried to make something out of the game against a better team, which in the end worked against us. Do give over. The rot set in this summer transfer window with the total ineptitude shown on not signing positional players we needed and signing positional players we did not. That is either Hughes fault, Scholes fault, Coates fault or Cartwright's fault. Who is to blame for this position we find ourselves in. As has previously been mentioned the whole club seems inept. It is very concerning. Forgot to read the title, did you?
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 10, 2017 18:25:06 GMT
You can’t defend it, much like the team can’t defend as it happens.
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Post by supacoopa101 on Dec 10, 2017 18:26:20 GMT
You're overlooking something. There's a handful of posters who've rubbished every criticism of Hughes, however justified, and usually ended up blaming the fans who don't think like them. They won't want to lose face. Those posters have disappeared from the face of the earth
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 10, 2017 19:03:30 GMT
You're overlooking something. There's a handful of posters who've rubbished every criticism of Hughes, however justified, and usually ended up blaming the fans who don't think like them. They won't want to lose face. Those posters have disappeared from the face of the earth I'm still here! and whilst no one can defend the performance of the team yesterday, I still think there is no one better available to take over from Hughes. We are just 3 points behind 10th place. We have played all the top 6 clubs, unlike the other clubs around us. Newcastle have 50,000 fans cheering them on and chanting the manager's name, haven't won in ages, are below us in the table, yet Stoke fans attack their players and manager. Some fools on here think Benetez would come to Stoke, what a joke. We have scored more goals than any other team in the bottom half of the table. We are conceding too many, but that is fixable with improved team work. The only team we have lost to below 4th place that have visited Stoke has been Bournemouth. I do not rubbish every criticism of Hughes although I do think a lot of them show how ignorant they are of the game and don't know a fraction of what Hughes knows.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 19:05:19 GMT
We cant afford to go down, we would struggle in the championship. Time to act now or it’s too late. I think the championship is harder to get out of than staying in the premier league 😬
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